Simviation Forum - 9600 pro help,HELP

Jan 22^nd, 2004 at 6:01pm

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Hello this XMAS i bought my self an Athlon xp 2400+ and a Club3d ATI Radeon 9600 pro series.And with all that i thought i was going to have a nice fs9.But it was the oposite.The processor works fine but the card its another thing.
Ive tried all the drivers from we hear in the forum(all the versions and from omegacorner that they say that works) updated my motherboard bios everything.But with the 9600 i start the fs9 and after a few sec. it locks, i dont know what to do the others 9600 owners dont know what it could be,Pleas help me. Sad

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Reply #1 - Jan 22^nd, 2004 at 6:52pm

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Hi. Welcome to SimV.

I too have a 9600 pro. It works fine....... except the framerates are pretty much terrible with fs2004. See specs on bottom of message.

I too thought the 9600 would be a good card. Nope. Nothing less than a 9800 or a 9800 XT appear to make it possible to REALLY max out the avialble eyecandy in the sim and still get acceptable framerates.

best,

....................john

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Reply #2 - Jan 23^rd, 2004 at 12:38am

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Hello 757200ba, Roll Eyes

The 2400 cpu is not a bad cpu, and the radeon 9600pro is certainly capable of producing reasonable frame rates etc. in FS9.

Assuming your hardware is not faulty, you really just need to set your PC up for graphics rendering.

This starts in the BIOS setup where you can set things like the "primary display adapter" - PCI or AGP, and AGP is what your after if you got an AGP video card.

Warning: Don't fiddle with the bios unless you know what you are doing.... get some help if you need it.

There is also a speed setting there in BIOS for 4x or 8x AGP. You need to set it for 8x if your motherboard and video card support that speed.

There is also a AGP aperature, or graphics window setting in BIOS, set it to 128 or 256mb max. (half system ram maximum).

Install directX 9.0b

Reinstall your motherboard drivers, particularly your m/board AGP or GART driver. This accelerates your AGP bus.

Make sure the 9600pro is compatible with your mainboard, (It probably is), and make sure your other BIOS settings are correct for your system, for instance, your AGP voltage.... if there is a setting for that.

Pick a driver for the video card that is known to work.

Adjust your video driver properties: goto-> display properties/settings/advanced. Leave it alone if you don't know what to do.

Next..... Make sure your system is running with as little overhead as possible, get rid of as many programs as you can that autoload on bootup, some may be needed for certain hardware to function, but I assure you, most stuff can be turned off safely. It all uses precious RAM and CPU power, and the less you have running the better your fps and general computer speed will be.

If all this fails, you could try re-installing FS9.

If that fails, and if no-one else can help, you may be looking at re-installing your operating system, in case something there is screwed up or missing.

Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD

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Reply #3 - Jan 26^th, 2004 at 7:25am

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Hello many thanks for the tips but my friend i´ve tried that and nothing worked i´ve tried alrready all the drivers from ATI and from Guru and from Omegacorner, i´ve tried all diferent versions from direct x also.The strange thing is tha most of the 9600 owners complain about the flickering on the menu screen my problem is a diferent one( Cry

) mine is after i start the sim some times i can make a flight of minutes and then locks some other time as soon the sims starts it locks and it doesnt matter if you´re using an original plane or airport or an add one(because it could be some problemsa with an add on) after a few seconds.The other strange thing is that the 9600 works perfect with other programs or games and with operating systems, the mother board had a bios upgrade for the ATI 8500 le (wich i ´ve alrady one of those) but i never needed to install because i´ve never had problems with that video card.
I´ve tried to change the mother board (i´ve used a MSI KT4V-l) i´ve changed also the ram (Corsair 512meg ddr) i´ve tried all operating system from the 95 to XP.
Has you can see i´m in panic because if it was a faulty one i think it would have problems in most of games, but it only happends in fs (2002 and 2004).Weniwant to forget the frustration i install a ASUS FX5200 and we are back on the air.

So im really in panic with nothing else to try.HELP
Once again my friend Many Thanks for the tips anything else you know please help me, once again thank you very much.
Tiago

ps:sorry about the english

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Reply #4 - Jan 26^th, 2004 at 7:33am

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Is overheating of the CPU a possibility?

I mean, you got the CPU at the same time as the card, maybe your other games aren't taxing the CPU as much as FS.... Just a thought.

Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD

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Reply #5 - Jan 26^th, 2004 at 7:49am

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I have what we can call a "mother of all coolers" i´ve a thermaltake (i cant remeber the model) that works at 7500 rpm the one that cames with the processor (Xp 2400+) works at 5200 rpm i´ve tried and the mother board programs that control that says tha everything is ok.And also the system fan is also working well, the tep. form the processor is alway between 45º and 55º degrees.

Thank you again

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Reply #6 - Jan 26^th, 2004 at 7:58am

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graphics cards overheat too... usually though you will different colored "artifacts" all over the screen if your graphics card is overheating

Still have a nice PC but I just switched to a hella nice mac

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Reply #7 - Jan 26^th, 2004 at 8:04am

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now thats an idea some time in the 2d panel it apearssome squares on the left it might be a sign ?
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Reply #8 - Jan 26^th, 2004 at 6:12pm

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Make sure that your PSU (power supply unit) is big enough. I had a 300W PSU and my 9600 PRO didn't run with it. I had to buy a bigger one.

Go to this link and read all the pages
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/8596/

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Reply #9 - Jan 27^th, 2004 at 6:35am

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hi!About the power suply im ok i´ve a 450w.i think thats enought.

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Reply #10 - Jan 27^th, 2004 at 3:55pm

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IM BACK ON THE AIR.I´ve install the 4.1 drivers from Guru and now is working now what happends is the flickering with some strange squares in the menus but i can live with that.Another strange thing is in the video board propeties it appears on 9600 agp has primary and another 9600 pci has secondary.I think there is something strange in this what do you think.

Once again many thanks

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