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Dec 22nd, 2003 at 1:06pm

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Historic Flying Limited's current restoration project, its Mk T9 two-seater Spitfire IAC-161, is making good progress. Its first flight after a total rebuild is expected in late February or early March 2004. It is almost ready to rest on its wheels, with both wings in place and cockpit systems being installed. Its freshly-built Merlin 66, overhauled by Universal Airmotive of Chicago, will be installed shortly.
When airworthy, IAC-161 will go into service with HFL and sister company Aircraft Restoration Company (ARC) as the final rung in the ladder of a unique warbird pilot training programme developed by ARC.
John Romain of HFL said: "For some time we've been working towards setting up the world's finest warbird pilot training programme. Flying a high-performance and rare warbird such as a Spitfire is a tremendous privilege and hugely rewarding, accessible to only a few. It demands good training and progressive conversion to minimise risk and maximise the rewards. When IAC-161 joins the flightline we will be able to take 100-hour PPL's through tailwheel conversion on our Chipmunk into complex and high-performance aircraft with our Harvard. The next and vital step on the way to soloing a Spitfire has been almost impossible before this - time in our dual-control Spitfire."
All training will be carried out by instructors working to military standards of performance, which will stand their students in good stead whether in a warbird or a modern aircraft.
IAC-161 is being fitted with a digital data acquisition system from Pi Research for monitoring aircraft performance and recording flight data. The system can also record video from each flight, with feeds from three miniature cameras on board. The video will be used for passenger mementoes and training purposes.

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Reply #1 - Dec 22nd, 2003 at 1:24pm

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Maybe I should start dropping big hints now for my next special birthday. That will be in around 4 years so they will have plenty of time to save up for it. Wink

This depends on whether I make it of course which is by no means certain. Then there's the medical to bluff pass if I do. Maybe it's not worth getting too excited. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #2 - Dec 22nd, 2003 at 1:29pm

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A flight in the Grace Spitfire (ML 407) is about 2500 squids, and there is a two year waiting list, best hurry up and get unsubtle Hagar Wink

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Reply #3 - Dec 22nd, 2003 at 1:37pm

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I might just settle for another trip in the Extra 300. That suited me fine & I could sit in the front. Never did like staring at the back of the instructor's head. Wink

PS. I did think about doing the whole course. Then I could buzz around here doing aerobatics all on my little ownsome. Quite a frightening thought don't you think? LOL 
It would mean starting from scratch & getting a PPL first. They do the primary training in the Bulldog.
 

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Reply #4 - Dec 22nd, 2003 at 1:41pm

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Bulldog schmuldog, get up in a Chippy. The ultimate madmans plane Smiley
 

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Reply #5 - Dec 22nd, 2003 at 1:44pm

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I love the old Chippie dearly but they don't happen to have one. There is one at Shoreham but I thought it would be much better to do all the training with one outfit. Don't you think? Roll Eyes

PS. A Tiger Moth would suit me best. I reckon I could still fly one of those now, even after 40 years. Wink

PPS. A tad chilly round the old lugholes in this weather. It might be better to wait until Spring arrives. Shocked
 

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Reply #6 - Dec 22nd, 2003 at 1:48pm

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There are still a few places that you can log time on the Moth (ah de Havilland and their magnificent machines Grin).

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Reply #7 - Dec 23rd, 2003 at 2:29am

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I reckon that if i give up smoking, drinking and eating I may just be able to save enough cash for a flight.

Alternatively I could save the cash and get a PPL....
 

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Reply #8 - Dec 23rd, 2003 at 5:16am

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I'm looking forward to seeing this plane on the flightline at Duxford next year. Just two years ago we only had two airworthy T-9's in the UK and with one example returned to the air last year and IAC-161, that figure has now doubled Grin It would be nice to see this plane and ML407 together again after both served with the Irish Air Corps.
 

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Reply #9 - Dec 23rd, 2003 at 8:09am

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Hey Ozzy,

There's a mob in the US that advertise Harvard flights. Shocked
http://www.warbirdflying.com/ This is the UK version of the same thing.

They take you up and they hand it over to you. (I think they're 30 min flights, about $500-00).  8)
You get the video and stuff also.

YOU DON"T EVEN NEED A PPL - just a drivers licence!!!  Shocked Shocked

There's another mob in Florida that do the same thing, with a Mustang!! But that's more expensive.  Roll Eyes

Alas, there are none of these places in Aust.  Cry
 

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Reply #10 - Dec 23rd, 2003 at 8:41am

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There's a mob in the US that advertise Harvard flights. Shocked
http://www.warbirdflying.com/ This is the UK version of the same thing.

Brensec. I could do this in a Harvard at my local airport today if I wished. I might try it one day myself but I wouldn't put that in the same class as doing it in a Spitfire. Wink

I think you said you've already had a trip in a Spit. I think most people here envy you. This is one of my few remaining life's ambitions unlikely ever to be fulfilled. Roll Eyes Wink

PS. The outfit from your link IS the one at my local airport - Shoreham. I see that Harvard flying round here almost every day in the summer months. To tell the truth I usually hear it rather than see it. They're a tad noisy & the sound is quite distinctive.  Wink

PPS. If that price list is current, 1 hour (50 minutes airborne) in the Harvard would cost £450. The last time I was in Florida I think a similar trip in a P-51 cost something like $750 US. Compare this with Ozzy's estimate of "2,500 squids" for probably 30 minutes in a Spit. This would most likely have doubled by the time I'd saved that amount of cash. However much I would like it there's a lot more I can do with that sort of money. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #11 - Dec 23rd, 2003 at 10:29am

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I'd blow the 2500 for a ride!

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Reply #12 - Dec 23rd, 2003 at 1:54pm

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Last summer there was a restored B-17 in the area and I could have spent $400 for a 30 minute ride.
 
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Reply #13 - Dec 24th, 2003 at 5:09am

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Quote:
I'd blow the 2500 for a ride!

Ozzy (Spitfireholic) Grin


And I'd be right behind you in the line pal Wink
We have a collection of model aircraft at work, including a P-51 and a delivery driver last week looking at the model made us all go very green when he told us how he'd had a ride in a two seat Mustang a few years ago in New Zealand. Cost him £700
 

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