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Broadband (Read 544 times)
Nov 1
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, 2003 at 6:54am
Holder
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O.k I know how good Broadband is (having it myself).
But I see a problem.
I've probably got it all wrong, but here goes.
Surely if everyone converts from 56k (which I'm sure will happen in the near future) then this will slow down Broadband won't it? Doesn't this also mean that we won't be getting the speed that we originally pay for (£25 per month!
)?
Just a hunch.
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Nov 1
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Hi Holder, basically the best analogy to think of is like a pipe with water running through it. The bigger the pipe, the more water.
Yes more people going to broadband can slow things down, but its negligble compared to dear old dial-up modems!
The biggest problem is servers the other end having enough speed. Sometimes I download planes from Russian sites (the Ekranoplan being a good example), and they are still using 26k modems on their servers. A 12mb file took 8 hours! Worth it when I got it though.
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Nov 1
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..slightly off topic but...
The mention of the word "Broadband" always brings to mind a Pop Group made up of ladies of dubious character...
...!
...or id it just me...?
LOL...LOL...LOL...!
Seriously tho'...
I have 56k, dial-up modem, Evenings and Weekends, with a two hour cut-off time....
The good points....
It's VERY CHEAP...£5 per month....
...!
It stops me from being logged on and welded to my computer chair for 18 hours per day....
...!
The bad points...
It's a "bit" slow...
...!
..(but means I can mow the lawn, do the hoovering, wash my socks and pants, (underware)....before logging-on later in the day)....
...!
Now Broadband is FAST, as well as being EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE, and will negate all of the above....
...!
So...
I'm sticking with cheap, slow, 56k, dial-up at the mo'...
...!
...and doin' other things with my life, like mowing the lawn, hoovering, washing my socks, etc, etc... 8)...!
LOL...LOL...LOL...!
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...!
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Nov 1
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seriously, i find broadband far too expensive currently, and where i am in Queensland I get really decent 56 K dial up speeds all the time. I don't d/l excessive amounts of things so it isnt an issue to me.
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Nov 1
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, 2003 at 8:24am
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seriously, i find broadband far too expensive currently, and where i am in Queensland I get really decent 56 K dial up speeds all the time. I don't d/l excessive amounts of things so it isnt an issue to me.
Hi Poly....
...!
...sorted...
...!
Unless your main interest is in downloading massive video and music files, then "expensive" Broadband is mostly a waste of time at the moment...
...!
My 56k dial-up is O.K. if I am prepared to relax and wait for things to download.....
...and it's CHEAP....woo-hoo...!
LOL...!
Cheers mate...
...!
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Nov 1
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, 2003 at 10:49am
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Forget that! Broadband also comes in real handy for downloading those 15 Mb planes for FS. In fact, that's the main reason I got it. It's not just that why I won't go back though. Almost instantaneous page loads, quicker jpeg loading, and actually getting to watch a movie trailer is great!
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Nov 1
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, 2003 at 11:32am
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Surely if everyone converts from 56k (which I'm sure will happen in the near future) then this will slow down Broadband won't it? Doesn't this also mean that we won't be getting the speed that we originally pay for (£25 per month!
)?
The same thing has occurred to me. Not sure I like the idea of being permanently online either. In fact I don't like it at all. No matter how big this "pipeline" is, surely everybody using it at the same time MUST slow it down.
Still, it's never likely to affect me. I'm quite happy with my old 56k modem. "What you've never had, you never miss" as the saying goes.
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Nov 1
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, 2003 at 6:34pm
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Hey, I would give anything for broadband, even if it was 'slow'. Heck, I'd kill for a 56k connection
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Nov 2
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, 2003 at 12:08am
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Got broadband about 2 weeks ago, and I have already downloaded about 1 1/2 gb worth of stuff
(lock-on demo=126MB, Grand theft auto=336Mb, airplanes=aprox 500 MB, midtown madness=50 MB, Motorcross madness=50 MB, windows updates= about 30Mb...... and the list continues!)
I am somwhere I don't know where I am!!!&&
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Nov 2
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, 2003 at 5:09am
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Got broadband about 2 weeks ago, and I have already downloaded about 1 1/2 gb worth of stuff
Hi Michael....
...!
Over this side of the pond, Broadband cost us £28+ per month, not to mention rental of the telephone line, plus call charges...
So, enlighten me please...
...!
...As a fourteen-year-old school-boy, how do you find the money to finance that sort of expense every month...
...?
Or do you get Broadband for free in the U.S...
...?
Cheers mate..
...!
Paul.
(England).
P.S. or, do I suspect that it actually belongs to, and gets paid for, by Mum and Dad...
...?
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Nov 2
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, 2003 at 5:36am
bm
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Over this side of the pond, Broadband cost us £28+ per month, not to mention rental of the telephone line, plus call charges...
Hi Fozz, It was my understanding that with broadband you didn't pay call charges ??? Im going to check this out. I also thought that broadband is strictly one user per line, we had to get in quickly here as there were only about 4 lines for 40 houses!!
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Nov 2
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, 2003 at 9:33am
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Hi Bird...!
From what I gather...
...Broadband costs around £28 per month, plus the BT line rental of around £10 per month, plus the cost that little Johnny incurrs in 'phoning up his mates at every opertunity...!
...My Dial-up costs me around £5 per month payable to Freeserve, plus around £10 per month BT Line rental, plus any calls I
avoid making
make...
...!
LOL...!
Cheers mate...
...!
Paul.
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Nov 2
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, 2003 at 9:34am
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Foz. AOL are offering me (as a valued existing customer
) their Broadband package as follows.
Monthly charge: £27.99*
Modem cost: Free
Installation cost: No charge
This wouldn't cover line rental or connection costs from BT. I'm not sure my existing phone line is suitable & haven't bothered to find out.
*PS. This includes connection to the WWW & unlimited time online, like my present account. My phone bill is low as I only pay for conventional phone calls.
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Nov 2
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, 2003 at 9:45am
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Foz. AOL are offering me (as a valued existing customer
) their Broadband package as follows.
Monthly charge: £27.99
Modem cost: Free
Installation cost: No charge
This wouldn't cover line rental or connection costs from BT. I'm not sure my existing phone line is suitable & haven't bothered to find out.
Hi Doug...
It's the £27.99, ( £28 ), per month compared to my £4.99, ( £5 ), per month which terrifies me...
...!
Don't get tricked by the "Valued existing customer" malarky....
...!
Freeserve try that one on me to extract even more money from my Current Account at HSBC, (after the three months is up)....
...!
"Buggar off" is my instant responce....
...!
...(You know me)...
...!
LOL...LOL...LOL...!
Cheers mate...
Paul...(tight buggar)... 8)...!
(Hereford)
P.S. isn't it a sod that you can't type a number eight followe by a closed bracket without it apearing as a "smiley face"....( £28 )...(£28)
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Hi Doug...It's the £27.99, ( £28 ), per month compared to my £4.99, ( £5 ), per month which terrifies me...
...!
Don't get tricked by the "Valued existing customer" malarky....
...!
LOL I'm well aware of that. You're not talking to some wet-behind-the-ears sprog.
Just watch your phone bill. I figured out that my ordinary dial-up all-in AOL account is much cheaper than even the original "free" Freeserve. When I started out in this lark my first quarterly phone bill was astronomical & I couldn't afford to eat for a month. LOL
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Nov 2
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Hi Michael....
...!
Over this side of the pond, Broadband cost us £28+ per month, not to mention rental of the telephone line, plus call charges...
So, enlighten me please...
...!
...As a fourteen-year-old school-boy, how do you find the money to finance that sort of expense every month...
...?
Or do you get Broadband for free in the U.S...
...?
Cheers mate..
...!
Paul.
(England).
P.S. or, do I suspect that it actually belongs to, and gets paid for, by Mum and Dad...
...?
Well actualy I my dad wanted a free phone line that he could use at any time, but he didn't want to pay the $48 fee that comes with it... so he still pays the $25/month that he used to pay for dial-up, and I pay the other $23... It seems to be going ok, and I think it was worth it
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the reason i got broadband... is because my dad uses the phone a lot but i use the internet a lot which leads to big fuss over line use.. i am on bt broadband and i pay 15 quid a month whilst he pays the other 15 quid. i wouldnt go back to 56k now its a waste of time it spends more time loading that is acutaly any use espec with very slow ISP's like aol or freeserve..... 5kb a sec compared to 60kb a sec download...hmm good value i think and plus it can be left on all day all night for the huge downloads.
phone can be used at same time thats the main reason i got broadband
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5kb a sec compared to 60kb a sec download...hmm good value i think and plus it can be left on all day all night for the huge downloads.
phone can be used at same time thats the main reason i got broadband
That is all you get? I get about 180 KB per second
My ISP is giving me 1MBPS, but I downloaded somthing now I am getting 1.5MBPS
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