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Symbolism in the Matrix Trilogy (Read 378 times)
Oct 31st, 2003 at 10:11am

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The Purpose of the this thread is to discuss the meanings and symbolism and means that was displayed in the Matrix and the Matrix: Reloaded.

This thread is "NOT" intended to summarize the performance of a movie.

I'll start off.

Remember that part when Neo and Trinity enters Zion and is abruptly greeted by this young guy who knows the Neo saved him? I think I know where he came from.

If you have seen the Animatrix series, then you might have missed the full meaning of that part.

In the Animatrix [one of the series], there was this boy who believes that his dreams are more real than the world he is living in. On the computer, he talks to Neo [if I can remember correctly]. When the boy was contacted again, Neo tells him to run because the agents are after him.

In the end, he jumps off the top of a building believing that everything that he currently sees is not real. When he hits the ground, he wakes up in the real world and the first person he sees is Neo.

That's possibly why that young fellow appears in the movie.
 
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Reply #1 - Oct 31st, 2003 at 10:30am

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You know name Persephone in Matrix Reloaded. Isnt Persephone the daughter of Cretes in Greek mythology?

Where Persephone is taken to the underworld in the winter. Making Cretes sad and preventing the crops to grow. Then Zeus told Hermes to sort it out. So, he tried to make Creses happy but it didn't work. Hermes made a deal that Persephone will be returned in the summer season, thus allowing the crops to grow. I think this is how the Greeks explained how the seasons changed.

I could be wrong.
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 31st, 2003 at 11:21am

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Actualy the first Matrix is based aroung the ancient Greek philospher Plato's theories. Specially in his theories on the Allegory of the cave. I'm not going to explain because it could take up huge amounts of space. I will try and find a link to somewhere that may be able to explain it.

They try to be more philosophical with trying to show that machines believing in the sense experience point of view of aristotle in the second one but it is so clumsily put in and the story is told so badly that I lost interest in the story and just waited for the action.

Oh and also Neo is an anagram of One.
 
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Reply #3 - Oct 31st, 2003 at 4:21pm

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Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Matrix Regurgitated? Grin
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 31st, 2003 at 4:52pm

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Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Matrix Regurgitated
Matrix Remade
Reservoir Matrix
Dude, What's the Matrix
The Zion King
The Zion Job
Zion Park: The Lost World
My Big Fat Zion Wedding
National Lampoon's Matrix Vacation
Lord Of The Matrix
Maid in the Matrix
Nebechudzezzar (Staring Leonardo DiCrapio and Kate Winslet)
The Sum of All Minds
Who Framed Thomas Anderson
The Nebechudzezzar Adventure
Neo McGuire
Finding Neo
Neo Must Die
Neo's Apartment
Me, Myself, and Smith
Saving Captain Morpeus
Band of Sentinels

P.S Was Nebechudzezzar a leader a long time ago that lead people arcoss the Middle East?
 
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Reply #5 - Oct 31st, 2003 at 5:47pm

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Ranger.... Wink...!
...that was the funniest thing ever... Grin... Grin... Grin...!
You are obviously as deply confused by it all as I am..!
My imagination wont stretch that far as to understand any of it... Wink...!
I have watched it umpteen times and it still makes no sense to me... Roll Eyes...!
LOL...LOL...LOL...!

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Reply #6 - Oct 31st, 2003 at 6:50pm

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Okay, Fozz.  Machines have taken over the world.  This dude has to save it.  Now be quiet and watch the movie. Grin Grin
 

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Reply #7 - Nov 1st, 2003 at 2:43am

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LOL...thanks Fozzer  Wink

I had to watch Matrix a few times over to start to understand it.
 
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Reply #8 - Nov 1st, 2003 at 3:21am

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I can't wait untill MATRIX Revolution comes out!
 
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Reply #9 - Nov 1st, 2003 at 5:12am

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Quote:
Okay, Fozz.  Machines have taken over the world.  This dude has to save it.  Now be quiet and watch the movie. Grin Grin


LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Hi Ender...
Watching the movie... Shocked...!

Examining the chemical composition, molecular weight, and intricate structure of the pop-corn in the bag on my lap is infinately more understandable than trying to figure out the mind numbing complexities of "The Matrix".... Roll Eyes...!

...that just gives me a headache... Cry...!

LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Cheers all... Wink...!
Paul....more pop-corn please... Grin...!
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Reply #10 - Nov 1st, 2003 at 7:01am

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haha ranger that was so funny!
 
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Reply #11 - Nov 1st, 2003 at 7:03am

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Nebuchanaezzer was the King of the Babylonians who carried the Iraelites into Exile from Jerusalem as punishment from God for sinning.
 
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Reply #12 - Nov 1st, 2003 at 7:04am

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Have you noticed one thing that Neo, (Keanu Reeves), learned in his journey into fantasy-land, was how to talk R-E-A-L-L-Y, R-E-A-L-L-L-Y, r-e-a-l-l-y,
r-e-a-l-l-y
s-l-o-w-l-y.... 8)...!

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Reply #13 - Nov 1st, 2003 at 7:58am

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Something about the Matrix,

Why did the machines have to create the matrix? Surely it would have been a lot easier to let the humans just, I dunno, sleep or whatever?

Oh yeah, I just have to say this-

I am the one 8)

Also if he can fly, beat up agents and stop bullets, and now it looks like he can kill machines in the real world, surely the great fleao could destroy the matrix?

Apart from that, great movie.
 

I'm only smiling because they haven't found the bodies yet.&&&&
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Reply #14 - Nov 1st, 2003 at 9:02am

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Quote:
Something about the Matrix,

Why did the machines have to create the matrix? Surely it would have been a lot easier to let the humans just, I dunno, sleep or whatever?

Oh yeah, I just have to say this-

I am the one 8)

Also if he can fly, beat up agents and stop bullets, and now it looks like he can kill machines in the real world, surely the great fleao could destroy the matrix?

Apart from that, great movie.


Hi Daniel... Grin...!
Have you noticed the similarity between this thread and the "Moon Landings" thread....?

I think that they have a lot in common... Wink...!

LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Cheers mate... Grin...!
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