Simviation Forum - It`s the "pitts"

Oct 13^th, 2003 at 4:52pm

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Earlier, I decided to search Simviation for a new plane to DL and this caught my attention.
It`s Jim LeRoy's Pitts S-2S "Bulldog" by Mikko Maliniemi

"PittsS-2SBulldog2k2.zip" under 2002 props.

It was a very pleasant surprise.

It`s fully animated with a VC and works perfectly in ACOF. It flys great, has no bad habits, and is fun to fly!
Just be careful of all that power from the "Ly-Con" engine. Wink

Just one folder....easy install.
If you haven`t already, I recomend you give it a test flight.

Home airports are KMGJ and KSWF in Orange County, NY&&Stop by and say hello.

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Reply #1 - Oct 13^th, 2003 at 7:23pm

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Joe your flying with the canopy open to close hit shift E that will close the canopy I have both of the S2S's the stock one and that one I can't land either one of them

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Reply #2 - Oct 13^th, 2003 at 8:48pm

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Joe your flying with the canopy open to close hit shift E that will close the canopy I have both of the S2S's the stock one and that one I can't land either one of them

I know.
I just slid the canopy back to enjoy the fall air and get a better view.

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Reply #3 - Oct 13^th, 2003 at 9:08pm

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Great shot, Joe

Lovely Pitts..

Keep out of IMC in VFR,&&Tim

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Reply #4 - Oct 13^th, 2003 at 9:11pm

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Joe can you give me tips on landing it and I also need help landing the decathlon to

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Reply #5 - Oct 13^th, 2003 at 9:49pm

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Joe can you give me tips on landing it and I also need help landing the decathlon to

What kind of trouble are you having?
I also have the decathlon and I`ve found it (like the Pitts) very easy to land, at least for me. It`s some other planes that I have trouble with.

Anyway, I`ve found the Pitts and Decathelon have similar landing characteristics. You have to sort of fly them down to the runway, kind of like a water landing.

Try comming in a bit lower and keep the speed up a bit and be prepared for a somewhat longer roll out.
Don`t forget, these two planes have basically simetrical airfoil wings with no flaps so, there isn`t much lift at lower speeds.
Settle down on the mains and let the tail come down slowly.

Also, with both planes, I dial in small bit of up elevator trim before take off.
I trim them for level flight at 3/4 throttle.

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Reply #6 - Oct 14^th, 2003 at 12:44am

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I drop it in I get below the power curve and I can not get enough power to get above the power curve

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Reply #7 - Oct 14^th, 2003 at 2:16pm

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I drop it in I get below the power curve and I can not get enough power to get above the power curve

I`m not shure I know what you mean.
Are you saying that the engines are not properly responsive below a certain RPM range?.

If so, I`ve never experience that.

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Reply #8 - Oct 14^th, 2003 at 9:59pm

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what I mean by below the power curve is i am below stall speed and I can not get above stall speed fast enough

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Reply #9 - Oct 14^th, 2003 at 11:00pm

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what I mean by below the power curve is i am below stall speed and I can not get above stall speed fast enough

OK, it sounds like you might be attempting to land at too low a speed
If you are stalling and don`t have the altitude to recover, this is most likely your problem.

Both ACs in question are ment to fly fast as they are designed for arobatics.
Like I said eariler, they both have symetrical airfoils and no flaps so, you really have to keep you speed up when landing. The air files are somewhat realistic in this respect.

In other words you can`t lower the flaps (you don`t have any) cut power, and depend purely on altitude to get you to the runway. You must maintain some throttle to keep you moving fast enough.

If you trim them for level flight and keep above stall speed when landing, there should be no problem.

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Reply #10 - Oct 14^th, 2003 at 11:31pm

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Joe I found that out the hard way

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