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Oct 10th, 2003 at 8:39am

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does anyone know the speed of the 2800+ processor that comes straight out of the box with no overclocking? it should be around 2.1 -2.2 ghz am i right?
 
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Reply #1 - Oct 10th, 2003 at 8:51am

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does anyone know the speed of the 2800+ processor that comes straight out of the box with no overclocking? it should be around 2.1 -2.2 ghz am i right?


2250 MHz (13.5 x 166 MHz). - Yes, your right Daz!  Grin
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 11th, 2003 at 11:01pm

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its something that has always bugged me. why name it the xp2800 which sounds like its a 2.8 cpu lol when its realy a 2.2?

i bet its someting so simple  Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #3 - Oct 12th, 2003 at 12:09am

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I think its a rating which compares it (the XP2800 Athlon)to the equivalent performance of an Intel 2.8 gig processor ?......anyone else have an idea ?
 
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Reply #4 - Oct 12th, 2003 at 12:34am

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You're right Ken.

Windows XP sees my Athlon XP2800+ as 2.09 GHz
 
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Reply #5 - Oct 12th, 2003 at 12:58am

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how comes yours is at 2.09 and the default is 2.25?
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 12th, 2003 at 3:30am
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because windows is too dumb to detect a CPU in the right way? Grin


p.s: has anyone of you seen an XP 2800+ (T-Bred) in an online store in the last few weeks? it seems that this CPU isn't anymore avaiable here in germany.
 
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Reply #7 - Oct 12th, 2003 at 4:59pm
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Windows XP sees my Athlon XP2800+ as 2.09 GHz


Andrew, think you need to look at your BIOS setup. XP2600+ is 2083GHz so yours looks to be wrong.

Windows doesn't detect the clock speed of the cpu - your BIOS does.
 
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Reply #8 - Oct 12th, 2003 at 9:14pm

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its something that has always bugged me. why name it the xp2800 which sounds like its a 2.8 cpu lol when its realy a 2.2?

i bet its someting so simple  Roll Eyes

As far as I understand it (and I'm probably not understanding right.lol) is the Intel chips do 2 processes per second,and the AMD's do 4,so even though the chip is rated lower it does the same amount of work-but don't quote me on that.lol.
 
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Reply #9 - Oct 12th, 2003 at 9:51pm

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that explains why it runs hotter then Cheesy my windows recognises my xp2800+ as a duron for some reason lol strange and it only recognisies 2.09 ghz
 
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Reply #10 - Oct 13th, 2003 at 2:53am

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Andrew, think you need to look at your BIOS setup. XP2600+ is 2083GHz so yours looks to be wrong.

Windows doesn't detect the clock speed of the cpu - your BIOS does.


If Windows reports my AthlonXP 2800+ as 2.09 Ghz, and you say it should read 2.08 Ghz, what's the problem?
 
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Reply #11 - Oct 13th, 2003 at 8:30am
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No, I'm saying a 2600+ is officially 2.083 GHz so your 2800+ should be quite a bit faster. I don't know what the official rating is but 2.25 sounds more or less right.

I'd check to see that you've got a CPU clock of 166 MHz set and a multiplier of Auto or 13.5 (I think it should be) giving a processor speed of 2.24 GHz

You usually get into your BIOS setup by hitting Del at the beginning of the boot sequence.

Then you might try selecting 'Optimal' settings rather than doing it manually if you're not familiar with setting up a BIOS
 
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Reply #12 - Oct 13th, 2003 at 8:59pm

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yep played around with bios changed it to aggressive settings and its fine now and it recognises it as xp not duron lol. temps risen a bit but i have 7 fans in there so wont be too much of a prob i dont think
 
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Reply #13 - Oct 15th, 2003 at 8:43pm

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I'd check to see that you've got a CPU clock of 166 MHz set and a multiplier of Auto or 13.5 (I think it should be) giving a processor speed of 2.24 GHz


Ok, my CPU clock is set at 166 MHz and my multiplier is at auto. WinXP still sees it as the same.

I downloaded the 3DMark03 demo, and benchmarked my system, and got online to compare. The sad part is that other computers with the same specs are getting a score twice as much as me. What do I do?
 
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Reply #14 - Oct 16th, 2003 at 9:29am
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which mainboard do you have ,andrew? i've got now an Athlon XP 2700+,but my EP-8KHA+ recognizes it as an XP 2100+. i think this has something to do with the FSB of your mobo. :/

-update: or you need an updated BIOS...
 
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Reply #15 - Oct 16th, 2003 at 10:36am

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I've got the Epox 8RDA3+
 
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Reply #16 - Oct 16th, 2003 at 2:58pm
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it should work,but i suggest flashing your BIOS. you can get new BIOSes and information on how to do this on: http://web.epox.com/html/motherboard-download.asp?id=l43zn3t31Cq4h3h0c10x1BM0i03...
 
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Reply #17 - Oct 17th, 2003 at 12:20pm

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And that will double my performance?
 
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Reply #18 - Oct 17th, 2003 at 3:07pm
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don't know...

p.s: which memory do you have? PC2100 (DDR 266) or PC 2700 (DDR 333)?
 
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Reply #19 - Oct 19th, 2003 at 9:49am

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that is actually quite decieving then
 
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Reply #20 - Oct 19th, 2003 at 2:54pm
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Ok, my CPU clock is set at 166 MHz and my multiplier is at auto. WinXP still sees it as the same.


OK Andrew, try looking in the power section of your BIOS setup and set the multiplier to manual.... 13.5. You may also need to change a dip switch setting to go manual.

Don't worry, you're quite safe to do so AS LONG as your motherboard is rated for this processor. Check first.

eg Silent Exploder's mother board is a great board - just got rid of 2 old PCs with the same one - but it IS NOT suitable  for a 2700+ processor.

Also check that you're running with at least a 350watt power supply. I had a 300W with my old PC with the 8KHA+ board when I upgraded to my 2600+ cpu and it blew. Remember my disaster story a few months ago?

Easy to replace the PC p/s but the surge took out the p/s of my Seagate h/drive. Now that did cause me some grief - it ain't easy getting data off a knackered h/drive!

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Andrew, just noticed you have  the 8RDA board. So do I. 2800+ is the highest it goes to. Strange you can't use auto BIOS multiplier setting
 
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Reply #21 - Oct 20th, 2003 at 2:49pm
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eg Silent Exploder's mother board is a great board - just got rid of 2 old PCs with the same one - but it IS NOT suitable  for a 2700+ processor.

Also check that you're running with at least a 350watt power supply. I had a 300W with my old PC with the 8KHA+ board when I upgraded to my 2600+ cpu and it blew. Remember my disaster story a few months ago?


a) the KHA+ is even rated for a 2800+ ,BUT you'll need PC 2700 ram for running the CPU with FSB 166 (that's my prob. need to buy new RAM).

b) mine hasn't blown yet and i've got "just" a 300W power supply. i think the cause for the accident with your board was either a manufacturing failure or a mistake while you put the CPU on it.
 
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Reply #22 - Oct 20th, 2003 at 6:27pm

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I'm running 512 MB of PC2100 DDR RAM

The mobo I've got is the plus version of the 8RDA3

I'll try changing the power setting to 13.5 and see what happens. Btw, what FSB frequency should it be set at?
 
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Reply #23 - Oct 21st, 2003 at 1:39pm
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leave it at 133. i don't think your RAM is able to handle 166,mine doesn't,too.

hint: go,buy some PC2700 RAm for running the CPU at mx. speed. gotta do this,too.
 
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