This may not be the place to post this, but here is where the people are.  I broached the question of whether or not a Simviation Museum would be a possibility with Pete, he pointed out (and rightfully so) that by my own admission,  I could not contribute much more than the seed of an idea.  Maybe those of you who like this idea, and are willing, with your time and talents, might create a large hanger-like building or buildings, into which we could place static versions of our favorite aircraft, chosen by a vote of the SimV community, from within the download pages of  Simviation.  There could be a place for Civil & Military aircraft, both past and present. There might even be runways, so we could fly there.  I would be happy to give of my time to help in any way, other than artistically.(I can't draw a straight line with a ruler)  Maybe, if  there is a desire, discussion, and an agreement, for such an add-on, it could find a place here at Simviation to be worked out.  If you have any thoughts on this, both positive or negative feel free to PM me.  I maybe slow in responding to your PMs, I am on dial-up with a family who also needs to use the phone, but I will respond.  Thanks for taking the time to read this rather long post.

                                            Fido   

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  Explorer   I think the location should be decided by a vote, just like the aircraft.  No one person should decided. If  it is possible, multiple locations would be nice, maybe near by a large body of water, then the seaplane folks could anchor of shore and visit.  I hope this "museum" would belong to all, therefore, everyone needs to imput ideas, not just one person.  Where would you like to see it located?

                                 Fido

Sounds like a great Idea, how about the mandatory wright flyer? and the B-29?

One thing you should realise. Static scenery objects, particularly static aircraft, tend to be graphics intensive. These can only be converted from reasonably basic designs. I find that FS98 models work best as static scenery objects although not all will convert. This would mean finding suitable FS98 versions of each particular aircraft. Also getting permission from the authors to use them.

I think the best method would be to make these "static" aircraft AI Traffic. This makes the whole thing more complex. Although you could use the latest aircraft, not all are suitable as AI traffic. This would also depend on the sim. It wouldn't be possible in FS2004 until the new AFCAD is released. For it to be practical everyone would need the basic aircraft. You would end up with something like the PAI project.

Fido. Please don't think I'm trying to put a damper on this. Not being blessed with much in the way of imagination myself I like to encourage anyone with that talent. I'm pointing out the snags as I see it. others might have different ideas.

Project AI is a clever way of adding AI Traffic to FS2002 for those without the necessary skill or experience to do it themselves. A group of talented developers created a series of special AI Only drones & traffic tracks to go with them. I've not tried it myself but understand that installation is a piece of cake with the included installer.
http://projectai.flight1.net/

OK Fido. I think you could do a lot worse than try the latest FSSC here. http://fssc.avsim.net/
I'm not sure which sim we're discussing here but it includes a tute & basic sample airports for FS2002. These should also be compatible with FS2004.

You mean you want to build like a Virtual Simviation Base?

Sounds like a good idea, although the bit about having it full of aircraft models could really kill your frame rates.

i think that every member (just the ones from the "we're simv"-pic) should choose his/her favourite plane for the display.

as for the place ,i suggest iceland: plenty of water, politically neutral, nice landscape, much room.

Alaska seems too far north for something like this.  Not to say it isn't a good suggestion; the location is all that gets me.

How about the Carribbean (sp)?  Nice, luscious scenery with plenty of beautiful water and excellent weather.  It would also be easier on frame rates somewhere in the middle of an ocean.

Sounds like a good idea to me, I would definatly be interested.  As for location, someone run over to pete's house with your handheld GPS and get the coordinates.

What about human figures? I can make the realistic ones. And I'm mean by 3-D models. Now I'm getting real good at making human models in Gmax.  I'm real tired of seeing human figures come out as 2-D pictures on the Scenery Addons.

I have 2 that are ready. One has a low poly-count (male), the other has a high poly-count (female).

I'll have the pics redy ASAP.

You know, a nice population will make the scenery look even better and realistic.

Man, not only am I getting good at making car models and aircraft, but now I'm getting good at making people. Too bad it's only with Gmax. All my models would look a lot better if I had 3D Studio Max v.5.

Anyways, I wanna help with this scenery project.

I personally think Pete's house is a great idea.   I know I can not draw or do much that could help, but still have an idea or 2 to throw out.  I had not considered frame rates, what if palnes were scaled down in size, would it help?  We are there to look, not fly, so maybe size would be less important as long as scale was maintained. This might make site choice less troublesome.  People would be an nice addition as well.

Fido  ???

CUBA!!



@andrew: iceland is neither american nor european and in the middle of the atlantic ocean,so why not?

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Hmm, I think a dedicated room for Fozzer isn't fair on us other forum users!     

Sry mate, I could'nt resist that! 

We don't really have to fly there.

Click.


I'm there.

Well, here are pics of one of the human models I made. This is female figure made in Gmax. It has a polygon count that can equal a plane's poly count.





As you can notice, the ears are not there. The ears are one of the hardest things to make. Especially if you are planning to apply the Meshsmooth modifier to it.

The model has been made entirely with Gmax.

The body has been made out of a simple box (low-poly modeling) that has been extruded on certain places to make the arms and legs.

The head has also been made out of a simple box. It was later attached to the body so that it will make smooth, seamless model. Then I added the Meshsmooth modifier to give it the fememine figure.

The shirt was made out of a cylinder and the pants was made out of a box as usual.

There is a website that can teach you how to do this.

http://www.comet-cartoons.com/toons/index.cfm

Note: The author uses 3Ds Max. So, his tutorials can be used for Gmax. But only Gmax and 3Ds Max.

Buildings are easy to make. They're just made out simple boxes. If you have read the tutorial on how to make a house for scenery, then you're set to start.

I don't do houses or other buildings because they are too easy for me. I'm a modeler who loves to make complex things. From flyable planes to awsome-looking cars. From human figures to significant weapons.

I can do houses and hangars. But when it comes to making certain things like a runway, or taxiways, wind-socks, landable surfaces, etc., I suck.