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ATC funny that's not so funny... (Read 463 times)
Sep 2nd, 2003 at 9:16pm

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On Saturday I attended the Cleveland National Airshow at KBKL.  there were many different displays and aircraft there.  This story revolves around the ATC (Show Control), the Firebirds aerobatic demonstration team, and a P-38. 

So anyways the Firebirds were flying their routine in (2) extras and (1) Russian Sukhoi and communicating with each other on 123.15 while show control was 126.4

As the firebirds neared the end of their routine the intensity of the aerobatics increased as well.  As the firebirds began a climb into the vertical position for the hammerhead maneuver, a p-38J made a VERY low pass of the field in the exact same spot where the firebirds were just seconds ago. 

So anyways the firebirds were still communicating on their own frequency while entering a modified pattern to land when one of the firebirds spotted the P-38J which was by then on short final to 6L the active runway. 

The firebird that spotted the P-38J said “hey guys, anybody know about the P-38 on final?” to which came the response “There’s what!?! Where?!?” and this is before they found out that he had already made a low pass in the middle of their routine!

I could just imagine the discussion in the hangar/hotel later that day!
 
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Reply #1 - Sep 3rd, 2003 at 3:26am

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yes i agree, not that funny.
 
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Reply #2 - Sep 3rd, 2003 at 9:41am

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It might have been funny if I had been just listening to the radio chatter without seeing what was going on, and maybe it was even funny for a split second there, but then you realize really quick the seriousness of the situation...

Silly Boy
 
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Reply #3 - Sep 3rd, 2003 at 1:49pm

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that could have turned out into a disaster...but afterwards, when nothing happened, this sounds funny.

a while back, i was at EBZR where we fly with gliders. one of our pilots was on downwind and said the following: "glider Tango Golf on downwind for runway 2...shit...05" and at that moment, we saw him making a 180° turn...well that was fun, but could also be dangerous... Wink
 

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Reply #4 - Sep 4th, 2003 at 8:53am

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yup, just have to keep an eye out for everyone else, and watch your 6!

Silly boy
 
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Reply #5 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 3:32pm

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Good thing nothing did happen. How did do u people find out the frequencies that the different demo teams use?
 

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Reply #6 - Sep 9th, 2003 at 8:50am

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It's all basically a guessing game, unless you are able to get it off of the internet.  You figure that the frequencies are going to be in the air band, and work your way from there.  I've got a cheap radio shack scanner with the hyper search (300 Channels per second) so it doesn't take long for it to find an active frequency.  Sometimes you find others also, but then you just narrow down the spectrum.  Frequencies may also change between destinations depending on the frequencies in use in the area.  

Silly Boy

P.S. We have been able to listen to the Thunderbirds on 141.85 the past couple of years which is really  8)
 
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