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It's the little things in life... Logitech Wingman (Read 3569 times)

Jul 22^nd, 2003 at 8:33pm

RollerBall Ex Member

A while ago my Logitech Wingman F/F stick went berserk. Actually it was the rudder that began to flap from side to side uncontrollably and it got so bad it became impossible to use.

I went back to my old Genx500 Quickshot Non-F/F but it wasn't half as good and the rudder was a bit dodgy on that as well.

Got another F/F stick off EBay but the guy was a rip-off merchant and after making a few threats returned the stick and got my ££ back.

Tonight I thought - what the heck. Took the Logitech apart, couldn't find any bare or frayed wires - thought dry joint??

Re-soldered every joint I could find on the PC boards - chucked it back together again and EUREEKAAAAAA!!!!

Cheesy

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It WORKS!!!!!

Flying is back to being a real pleasure again. Like I said, it's the little things.....

Roger

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Reply #1 - Jul 22^nd, 2003 at 9:39pm

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I can bet you that you had a cold solder point somewhere. Good thinking to resolder everything.

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Reply #2 - Jul 22^nd, 2003 at 9:57pm

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funny, I've had the same problem with my Logitech Extreme 3D. I had to deactivate the rudder commands within FS which makes flying and hovering a helo really dificult.

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Reply #3 - Jul 23^rd, 2003 at 12:29am

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I let my son use my old Extreme 3D, because it was doing the same thing.

It sounds like either a design flaw, or something inheirent in one of the components.

That might be worth writing to Logitech about. It shouldn't matter how old the stick is. A company needs to know about a recurrent problem so they can fix it. It's a Quality Control issue, no doubt.

You never know... You could get a replacement part out of them, if you worded the letter right.
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Reply #4 - Jul 23^rd, 2003 at 2:54am

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You never know... You could get a replacement part out of them, if you worded the letter right.
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Hmmm...

Wrote a letter to Logitech UK in the beginning. My stick is over 2 years old - they said 'they will repair or replace according to the terms of their warranty..blah blah blah'

By the time you've paid carriage back to them (with Recorded Delivery, about £10 in the UK) - is it worth it?

BTW, Logitech have just posted 'record profits' this year. According to the reply I received from them it wasn't because they were selling 'cheap' products at high prices which I suggested

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- but it seems funny we're all getting the same problem...

Anyway, just hope mine keeps going.

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Reply #5 - Jul 23^rd, 2003 at 5:11am

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A good fix there Roger. I'll pop this down in the hardware section for everyone to see, might be some others who could use this tip Wink

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Reply #6 - Jul 25^th, 2003 at 11:31am

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I think there is a Logitech joystick support group out there somewhere......(chuckle) Grin

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Anyone ever wonder why there are so many Logitech Sticks out in the marketplace?

Could it be that the profit margins are so much higher than the quality MS sticks? Hmmm I wonder....... NOT!

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Reply #7 - Jul 25^th, 2003 at 9:58pm

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yeah i have the logitech 3d extreme js lovely to fly with and i swear by it except for a different problem to yours ...the throttle controler will not go right down to idle throttle 0% and so i cannot engage reverse thruster.. i have tried recalibrating about 3 times still no joy..any ideas?

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Reply #8 - Aug 18^th, 2003 at 6:56pm

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Umm daz with any stick by reducing the throttle it will not engage the thrust reversers. for that you will have to just press F2

Also had a rudder problem in my MS presicion pro 2 stick... but that was after they sent me a new one because to power supply in my other one broke... so what i did was replace the board in one and use the censors from the other and then it worked fine Grin

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but it is strange that it is always a rudder problem...

by the way i love my MS stick and i would by from them again if it werent for reliabilty problems... because about 4 or 5 years ago when the first force feedback stick came out my dad had gotten one free from a conference (i dont know why they were handing out $130 joystiks...) but after about 3 months the power supply for the ff stopped working and so they sent us a new one and the same thing happened... I know its not me because i have another stick a saitek that hasnt had a single problem for 2 1/2 years Tongue

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Reply #9 - Aug 19^th, 2003 at 3:16pm

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The fact that sometimes these things get loose sloder points isn't that unbelievable.

These sticks can really kick with force feedback on 100%... enough to make the bottom lift from the table if it does a 100% sweep while i'm holding it thightly (usually when turing sharp corners)

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Reply #10 - Aug 22^nd, 2003 at 5:03am

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no what i meant was reverse thrusters cant be enabled unless throttle is 0% and it will go down to 2% only so i have to hold f1 then press f2 to get reversers to work.

im not suprised actualy about this joystick and all the abuse i give it.....picture landing a 747 and its dropping too much so you yank your joystick to pull up so hard you fear it may snap in half...the logitech i have to say is quite durable in that respect

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Reply #11 - Aug 28^th, 2003 at 11:47am

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I don't buy NOTHIN from Logitech. Ever!

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Reply #12 - Aug 30^th, 2003 at 8:35pm

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may be cheap and naff but then again so is a lada gets you from a-b though Cheesy

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Reply #13 - Sep 11^th, 2003 at 7:51am

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hmm, this could be whats happening to my Logitech Wingman Extreme F/Fback js. the rudder kept swaying to the right, forcing me to keep it centered by twisting the stick left. You say to get around it you disabled the rudder controls? How did you do this, just by removing the assignments from the stick?? I'm not confident with soldering the whole board, and £10 special delivery for logitech to fix it seems a bit step to me, and besides i can do without the rudder.....i'll just need to revert to the good old keyboard or my pedals that i just bought.

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Reply #14 - Sep 13^th, 2003 at 9:49pm

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LOL...it's good to know that I'm not the only one with problems with the blessed thing! Guess I will have to take mine apart and resodder it tomorrow in order to fix the aileron control as it tends to start flopping back and forth. SO far I haven't had a problem with the rudder though...

Thanks for the info on this topic!

Jared

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