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Reply #15 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 4:32pm

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I own the already-mentioned HOTAS Cougar.
And I really have a hard time understanding why some of you thinks the Saitek X-45 is better ???
Have you ever flown with the Cougar?

The Cougar is the definition of what a joystick should be: sensitive, great ergonomics and STURDY! Cripes this beast weighs in at about 8kgs (18-pounds)
I will never go back to plastic controlers again, that's how spoiled you get when flying with the cougar.
And I wont even get started on the great software that comes along.

Remember, there's a reason why this stick is in the F16 cockpit. Yes it is expensive, but it will pay-off in the long run.

My friend has the Saitek X-45 so I have a decent understanding about its performance.
To compare the X-45 and the Cougar is to compare a Cessna 172 to  a turbojet  Grin
 
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Reply #16 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 5:39pm

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I'll have to lok it to it further but the cougar kicks ass Grin
 

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Reply #17 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 5:47pm

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Roll EyesIm as cheap as the day is long,so I went with the Logiteck Wingman extreme digital 3d.This $30 wonder does the job fine with no bull**** Kiss
 

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Reply #18 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 6:44pm
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Im as cheap as the day is long,so I went with the Logiteck Wingman extreme digital 3d.This $30 wonder does the job fine with no bull****


Amen!

We are here for fun!

I'm getting real sick of all this "If you don't buy all
the latest DoDas" crap!!!

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Remember, there's a reason why this stick is in the F16 cockpit. Yes it is expensive, but it will pay-off in the long run.


How the hell do you make money with a joystick?????

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Reply #19 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 7:14pm

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Sorry, but I just can't see how ANY joystick is worth $300.  Especially one that doesn't get fitted into a real plane...
 

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Reply #20 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 7:25pm

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I use a Logitech Wingman (which I hate with a passion.lol-definately time for a new stick) and a CH Virtual Pilot yoke & pedal set.

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I was thinking of trying to assign it to reverse thrusters, but I don't think I'll be able to.


About the thrust reversers,(I'm assuming you have FSUIPC in)In FSUIPC,go to 'Joysticks' and one the third page you'll see options for 'Reverse','Idle' and 'Max'.Just move your throttle all the way back for the reverse setting,slightly forward for idle & then obviously open it full for max.Then when you fly you'll have reverse thrust on the throttle and won't have to worry about assigning it to a button. Wink
 
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Reply #21 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 7:36pm

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ooooooooooh good to know.  I'll check it out thanks!  (I love this place!)
 

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Reply #22 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 9:36pm

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Amen!

We are here for fun!

I'm getting real sick of all this "If you don't buy all
the latest DoDas" crap!!!


How the hell do you make money with a joystick?????

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More advanced joystick= More fun
Better performance = More fun
Better looks and feel = More fun

We're in it for the fun, that's why I bought the Cougar, my old Cyborg 3d just didn't cut it for me anymore.

And you wanna know how to make money with the cougar; Easy: Charge a buck for everyone who wants to feel it in his/her hands...  Grin

visit http://cougar.frugalsworld.com/ for more un-biased views  Wink
 
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Reply #23 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 9:41pm
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More advanced joystick= More fun
Better performance = More fun
Better looks and feel = More fun


Are you as stupid as you sound!!!

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Reply #24 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 9:44pm

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Well, the best part is, he has yet to explain WHY it's superior, other than to say A) It's better, and B) It's more expensive.

That to me is hardly a rave review.

HOW is it better?

It looks almost IDENTICAL to my X-45.

 

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Reply #25 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 9:48pm

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I use a rudder pedal, throttle, yoke combo (4 throttles 4 mixtures). Grin it adds prescision to my flying in normal aircraft. I have a joystick and a collective lever for helis fighters 'Mechs  Grin and aerobatic aircraft.
 

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Reply #26 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 9:54pm
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[I use a rudder pedal, throttle, yoke combo (
4throttles 4 mixtures
).


Makes for confusion in my Camel Tongue

I guess if I want to have a better time,
I need to buy a high
$
watch! Roll Eyes

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Reply #27 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 10:29pm

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Some of you ( I wont mention any names) simpy dont get it.
Let's put your values into real life.

"Geez, that new Trans-Am looks almost identical as my car at home, I mean it has 4 rubber tyres, a steering wheel and an engine..."

First off, I the Cougar is more SENSITIVE, has stronger springs and thus RESPONDS better and more accurate. To me, the X-45 has a sloppy feeling, and it's too light.
And the ergonomics of the Cougar is fantastic, far better than Saiteks. The throttle feels like it was molded by your hand.
Also, it carries far more buttons, and I have a hard time  seeing how that is bad...
A better joystick brings more pleasure to your flying. Simple as that.

The Cougar does have issues, but none greater than average-joe can fix them (some ppl have speedbrake button problems). Also, the joystick and it's programming language recquires some time aside to read the 180 page manual.

Here are some reviews from OBJECTIVE sites:

http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/cougar_joystick/default.asp

http://www.tomshardware.com/consumer/20020430/

Seems like those reviewers are stuck in Cougar-country as well.



 
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Reply #28 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 10:39pm

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Well, my stick is extraordinarily comfortable.  Also feels molded by my hand.

I have yet to use all the buttons.

Never broken any springs.

I'm smart enough to adjust the sensitivities in F$ itself.

Haven't had any issues for Joe to be necessary.

Did mine even need a manual?

And oh yeah, it was 1/3 the price.

And when did this become a contest, anyway?



 

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Reply #29 - Jul 18th, 2003 at 10:53pm
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Let's put your values into real life.


I do put my values into real life,
not a SIMULATION!


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