I don't know if anybody in here is from NY, or is affected by this new law, but if you do you now they keep uping the driving age.  First they it was permit at 15 and licence at 16, now its permit at 16 and licence 6 mouths later.  And now I hear that they're uping it more.  You get your permit at 16 and wait 3 years until your 18 to get your licenece.  From what I've heard this goes into affect at the end of the summer, or winter for anyone in the southern hemisphere. (but that won't affect you so don't worry about it.)  I'm 15 and it seems they are changing the law everytime my birthday rolls around, so I have to wait longer.  j/k.  But the whole point of a drivers licenece is to get away from your parents.  When your 18 your recognized by the government as a adult and have no reason to get away from your parents because you can legally move out.  But whats interesting is they are not uping anything else. (besides test standerds, which I'm grateful for.)  The drinking age in NY  is still 21, although that doesn't stop anyone.  And you can get your glider licence at 14 and your power licence at 16.  I think flying is a bit more difficult and dangerous, but much more fun!  But I can't fly myself to school.  I'd like to hear all your opinions on this.  Do you think it's good, bad? Let me know.

I will admit that us kids have a less than perfect record on the road, but I think we are just ignorant and self-centered, and it shows that in our driving, but with practive it gets better.  And a year or 6 mouths of practice is good!  Besides if you don't let teenages out at that age they become aggresive and angry.  There will probably be more road rage than ever.  The kids angry at each other, the government for making 'em wait and there parents.  Also lets not forget you older foke, who are gonna be yelling at us kids!     As for the the 15-year-olds with SUVs and sports cars, I don't know where they get the money, or if they just steal them from they're parents...As for me my dad bought a '95 Ford F-150 with a standerd trasmission to teach me how to drive.  One day, if they stop uping the age, it'll be mine, and it's a lot better than any sports car!   

In Britain you aren't allow to start driving until 17, and I agree with this. You can ride a moped at 16 but that is about it.
I remember what I was like at 16. And I was not good driver material, v.moody, and intolerant, come to think of it I still am
I actually learnt to drive age 8 in Australia on my uncles farm in Australia (a Massey Ferguson tractor), and was riding the Honda motorbike all over the place aged 9.
I was lucky

Ozzy

did you send a passport with yours or a countersigned photo craig? i sent mine off with passport and got my provisional in about 5 days.
i am only now starting to learn to drive and i really have no interest in doing it, its money i could be saving to take flying lessons instead.

i've got a few hours of flight personally but at about $150 its just not a viable option right now, and as for solo hours you need 20. like i have said before there is a good chance i will be moving to the states in a few months anyway, so good cheap cost cut there:)

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Actually its only 2 years, not 3.

I live in NYC for 4 years now and I remember that these age limits were in effect before i even moved here. 

So wat u heard is not true, because they made all these changes more than 3 years ago.

Russ that can't be true!    My brother got his driver's permit in January, and is going to get his licence  tomorrow.  I think thats just for NYC, everyone keeps telling me I can't drive into the city till I'm 17 or 18.  And I did mess up I said it was 16 to 18 with a permit and then you can get a licence, but I put 3 instead of 2 years.    

If you really want to analyze this situation of drivers, whether they be young, old or the same age as you, gender included,... there really are only three kinds of drivers in the world........


1. That guy's (or Gal's) drivng wayyyy tooooo fast and out of control, and shouldn't be allowed on the road......

2. That manic is gonna causes an accident by driving so slow, like that.................idiots like that should be taken off the road.............

3. And then comes the final class of driver....................
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................think about it next time you critisize someone else's driving.......... ???  ???  if you have never said #1 or #2, then you are the most perfect driver in the world !

I've got 12hrs in various light aircraft and I flew gliders in the ATC but its too expensive just now. I think it takes about 40hrs to get a PPL over here but I'm not sure when you ccan solo.