I only like the flight scenes in Pearl Harbor. I hate history mixed with...love...
Anyways Wintalkers was a disapointment too. Seemed pretty good at first the ending was just wrong. Some time ago i saw a Nam movie, was a John Wayne-type film (dont even know if he was in it) IMO, was the worst war movie ever. Main characters died, most of the things were fictional, the mission was pathetic, etc. Seemed like a WWII film...with a real bad plot.

I forgot to add Casualties of War.  A sack of it.

Anyone who didn't say 'The Green Berets' doesn't remember a 250 lb 60 year old John Wayne pretending to be able to keep up with the 20 y/o in his outfit!

George Beckworth: There is such a thing as due process.
Colonel Mike Kirby: Out here, due process is a bullet. 

Oh Brother!

But that's not the worst war movie ever.  That honor falls to 'The Big Red One' with Luke Skywalker as a WWII grunt/cartoonist who finally learns the value of killing a man...

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that's hollywood crap for you i sipose if there wern't any........ l.......lo.....lov...........looooooo.........love in it the Movie wouldn't of been of a big deal!! Sheesh,  that just takes the mucho, and realism outta war..... stupid hollywood.... hey lets bomb and straf them with vals, kates, bettys and zeros and show them how it's really done  
thow we would be intercepted by f16s, but of course they would be glorified hollywood bolserwood F16s hang by wire cables 

IMO i dont think The Big Red One was a bad film. There could have been other movies better than it but i think it did a good job showin the North African campaign, Italy, and all that stuff. And..at least theres a human touch to the story - like the concentration camp parts. Thats the thing with some war movies sometimes. They show big explosions, the  "boom hes dead we won" plot. But they dont show the suffering of both the troops and civilians.

*BTW i think the Big red one was a 3 star movie..out of 4

Green Berets, no question! Dreadful film.

No contest. Pearl Harbour was just pants!

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I like "The Battle of the Bulge' too, mate. I've seen it a million times and emjoy it every time. Same with 'Battle of Midway' which. incidentally had a bit of romance and inter-personal crud in the plot.

He could easily have got back to Peral. The flight (or voyage from England to the east coast of the US was made by thousands of troops and civilians in relative safety, both ways. I have heard that, not one American soldier was lost on the way over (to action), out of the half million or so that went.
then the flight from the US wset coast to Hawaii would be very safe. It was all outside Japanese held territory.
It would have been more dangerous for Macarthur when he flew around Australia and New Guinea and the Pacific Islands.

They were apparently fighter pilots, as well as bomber pilots, who flew the Doolittle raid (I'm skeptical about the fact that any of them were the same ones involved in getting P40's up and into the fight at Pearl though...... ). I think the B25 was considered to be a very good 'ground attack' ship, which I suppose, makes it kind a semi "bomber/very big fighter" (sort of like an oversized Bf110............lol). 

As for surviving the crash. I suppose it's possible (that's all it has to be for Hollywood to use it..........lol).
If he hit the water at the right angle so as not to break the plane up too much, it would be similar to ditching, albeit a little too fast!

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I remember it was a pretty hard hit, too.........

But the Producers said he has to survive, so he survived!.................lol

Yeah a hard crash but i once heard it did happen that way. couple planes were completely destroyed, but most of them crash landed safetly. The Japanese managed to capture the crew of just one B-25. The crew was executed. Doolittle made his way into China and the crews met him there.

I've not seen any of those so I can't comment but my worst war film award goes to "Big Red One"

EVERY tank, APC and SPG in the damn thing is the same Sherman, they never even bother changing the paint job.

Will

I remember seeing a pretty pathetic War movie a few tears ago. I don't know the name. Maybe someone can help if I give the general plot.

On the American side we have Doug McClure flying a P40. His partner is shot down in the North African desert and he lands to pick him up. Fior some reason they can't take off again.
They are pursued by a crazy German Tank Officer in a Panzer Mk 2 or 3. I think the German is played by Richard Basehart.
McClure and his mate are running away from the tank by 'taxiing' the P40 until it overheats, then they stop and wait fro it to cool down and then go again.
They prop up the tail of the plane so the guns are aiming at the tank a couple of times but they don't stop them.
That's the guts of it.
I remember it being very B grade, and ridiculous.

I think I'll go to Basehart' or McClure's site and see if I can see it listed in their 'Movie list'

Yes they definitley used P40's in Africa.

US, British and Australians all flew them in Africa.
They were very well suited to the desert campaign.

There are 'Desert" paint jobs available for CFS1 & 2. 

hey,that movie was a fun movie and quite funny. just remember those japanese guys trying to get the compass out of this american guy...

Pearl harbor sucked to put it nicely! I think they should burn the film and make a movie that actually portrays the event well! A pearl harbor survivor I know said it was the worst movie he had ever seen (thats pretty bad!).