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Question: Which were the 2 hour suck-a-thons?

Windtalkers    
  6 (27.3%)
Pearl Harbor    
  12 (54.5%)
Green Berets    
  3 (13.6%)
Casualties of War    
  0 (0.0%)
Big Red One    
  1 (4.5%)




Total votes: 22
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Reply #15 - Jul 14th, 2003 at 1:51am

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I never watched any of the other movies besides Pearl Harbor.  I didn't like it.  The scene over the channel was good.  I just don't think he could of survived that crash, he hit pretty hard.  And how did he get back to Pearl Harbor?  And why did they fly B-25s?  Fighter pilots don't fly bombers.  And vise-versa.  I liked the Big Red One, I thought it was good.  As said before it showed the human side of it all, but there was a lot of action too.  The Battle of the Bulge was good, but no one else thought it was.  


I like "The Battle of the Bulge' too, mate. I've seen it a million times and emjoy it every time. Same with 'Battle of Midway' which. incidentally had a bit of romance and inter-personal crud in the plot.

He could easily have got back to Peral. The flight (or voyage from England to the east coast of the US was made by thousands of troops and civilians in relative safety, both ways. I have heard that, not one American soldier was lost on the way over (to action), out of the half million or so that went.
then the flight from the US wset coast to Hawaii would be very safe. It was all outside Japanese held territory.
It would have been more dangerous for Macarthur when he flew around Australia and New Guinea and the Pacific Islands.

They were apparently fighter pilots, as well as bomber pilots, who flew the Doolittle raid (I'm skeptical about the fact that any of them were the same ones involved in getting P40's up and into the fight at Pearl though...... Grin). I think the B25 was considered to be a very good 'ground attack' ship, which I suppose, makes it kind a semi "bomber/very big fighter" (sort of like an oversized Bf110............lol).  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Wink

As for surviving the crash. I suppose it's possible (that's all it has to be for Hollywood to use it..........lol).
If he hit the water at the right angle so as not to break the plane up too much, it would be similar to ditching, albeit a little too fast! Grin Grin
 

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Reply #16 - Jul 14th, 2003 at 3:00am

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I remember him coming in pretty fast at about a 25* angle though...
 

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Reply #17 - Jul 14th, 2003 at 3:03am

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I remember him coming in pretty fast at about a 25* angle though...


I remember it was a pretty hard hit, too.........

But the Producers said he has to survive, so he survived!.................lol Grin Grin Wink
 

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Reply #18 - Jul 14th, 2003 at 3:16am

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But the Producers said he has to survive, so he survived!.................lol Grin Grin Wink


A few other times too, like when the bloke was shot down over the channell it was during the daytime, but after his aircraft went under the water and he came out and swam to the surface, it was quite dark out . Go figure Roll Eyes Grin Grin
 
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Reply #19 - Jul 14th, 2003 at 1:38pm

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Yeah a hard crash but i once heard it did happen that way. couple planes were completely destroyed, but most of them crash landed safetly. The Japanese managed to capture the crew of just one B-25. The crew was executed. Doolittle made his way into China and the crews met him there.
 
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Reply #20 - Jul 14th, 2003 at 2:12pm

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I don't know about Pearl Harbor, I've seen a lot worse than that, although it was bad enough that I didn't see it more than once.  I need to change my vote though.  'The Big Red One' is not the worst war movie ever.  That humble honor can only go to 'A Bridge Too Far.'  Those people took a brilliant book and completely destroyed it.  I was completely enthralled by all three of Cornelius Ryan's (no relation) WWII books.  Although I saw A Bridge Too Far years before I read the book, once I did read it, I was embarrased that that piece of crap was ever even made.  

If anyone here has never read any of Ryan's books, I was suggest trying them.  The big three are:

The Longest Day (Chronicles the Normandy Invasion)

A Bridge Too Far (Chronicles Market Garden)

The Last Battle (Chronicles the Fall of Berlin)
 

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Reply #21 - Jul 15th, 2003 at 3:59pm

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I've not seen any of those so I can't comment but my worst war film award goes to "Big Red One"

EVERY tank, APC and SPG in the damn thing is the same Sherman, they never even bother changing the paint job.

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Reply #22 - Jul 15th, 2003 at 5:25pm

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Heh-Heh...   Yeah, it's pretty bad. Roll Eyes  This pregnant woman comes along, so in order for her to deliver, they drag her up on top of a tank, in through the hatch (that must have been something to see, in itself) and prop her up on the main gun?  Ha!  I've been in a tank buddy, there just ain't that much ROOM! Tongue
 

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Reply #23 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 12:21am

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I remember seeing a pretty pathetic War movie a few tears ago. I don't know the name. Maybe someone can help if I give the general plot.

On the American side we have Doug McClure flying a P40. His partner is shot down in the North African desert and he lands to pick him up. Fior some reason they can't take off again.
They are pursued by a crazy German Tank Officer in a Panzer Mk 2 or 3. I think the German is played by Richard Basehart.
McClure and his mate are running away from the tank by 'taxiing' the P40 until it overheats, then they stop and wait fro it to cool down and then go again.
They prop up the tail of the plane so the guns are aiming at the tank a couple of times but they don't stop them.
That's the guts of it.
I remember it being very B grade, and ridiculous.

I think I'll go to Basehart' or McClure's site and see if I can see it listed in their 'Movie list'
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Reply #24 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 12:36am

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I remember watching that movie when I was a kid! Smiley  I have been wondering for years what the name of it was.  I checked the Internet Movie Database for both actors you mentioned, but it wasn't there for either, and there were only three movies where they acted together.  None of the movies were it.  BTW,  I don't remember them using P-40's in Africa.  Did they?
 

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Reply #25 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 12:45am

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Yes they definitley used P40's in Africa.

US, British and Australians all flew them in Africa.
They were very well suited to the desert campaign.

There are 'Desert" paint jobs available for CFS1 & 2.  Grin Wink
 

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Reply #26 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 8:51am

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Speaking of P-40's, another big stinker:  '1941' Undecided 

John Belushi flying a P-40 down Hollywood Blvd!
 

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Reply #27 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 9:50am
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hey,that movie was a fun movie and quite funny. just remember those japanese guys trying to get the compass out of this american guy...Grin
 
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Reply #28 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 7:18pm

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Speaking of P-40's, another big stinker:  '1941' Undecided  

John Belushi flying a P-40 down Hollywood Blvd!

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Reply #29 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 8:48pm

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Pearl harbor sucked to put it nicely! Angry Angry Angry I think they should burn the film and make a movie that actually portrays the event well! A pearl harbor survivor I know said it was the worst movie he had ever seen (thats pretty bad!).
 

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