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I play this game called Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2. Whereas in many games you can play roles, (soldier, pilot, tank commander) in this game you control entire armies. I was going to get the next in the series (Command and Conquer: Generals (there's air-air combat in it and it's in 3-d)), but I thought, "what if there's a world War II game like this?" And that's my question:
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there a World War II strategy game? Here's a shot of the game I'm talking about:
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Hey, which map is that? I thought I had them all. Or did you make that one yourself?
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There's the Close Combat game series that's real time strategy that are lots of fun
I've played various turn based ww2 stratagy games, but it pisses me off when a whole marine platoon is just feet away from a japanese position but can't even toss a grenade because it isn't their turn
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Jul 2
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Hey, which map is that? I thought I had them all. Or did you make that one yourself?
If you have the Yuri's Revenge expansion, it's called Tsunami, if you don't, you can download it from the
Official RA2 site
, same name. I'm making a map called Tsunami II, it'll be the same style but for 8 players. I can send it to you if you want (after I finish it of course!).
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Jul 2
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Theres a great new game out called Blitzcrieg and you can play as either Allies, Russia or Germany. It covers all major events in world war 2 and air support plays a pretty big role. very stretegic good game.
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Jul 2
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Please do, I have Yuri's revenge, but haven't noticed that one yet... Thanks!
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The Close Combat series is the best out there for WWII real time strategy. I have Close Combat5 and I find it great fun when I want to outsmart someone.
Just for the record, CC1 is Normandy, CC2 is Arnhem, CC3 is the Russian front, CC4 is the Battle of the Bulge and CC5 is Normandy again.
I've played CC3,4 and 5 and 3 and 5 are the most entertaining. CC4 is quite annoying because the germans always have f**k off big tanks when all you have is a couple of bazooka teams.
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Jul 2
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Ooh, air support!
But that just reminded me of something, specifically to Woody and Crumbso, do any of these games have air-air combat? That was pretty much why I was moving from RA2 to Generals.
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Close combat technically features Air Support, but i've never got it to work
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Jul 3
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But is there any air-air combat, in Generals you have all these F-22s, F-117s and MiGs. Heck, you can even call a B-52 to drop a daisy cutter!
But I think this would all be so much cooler if it were P-47s and Panzers.
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I guess you could call CFS3 a strategy game, You have to do the planning and fighting
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Lucky me, I get to save all that money...
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Yep there is air to air fighting and the air support gets better as you progress. you start with hurris then move on to spitfires then finally meteors. You can call in spotter aircraft for the artillery (very very important in this game the artillery can decide the way the battle goes.) Bombraids ground attack aircraft, para drops. I think its a great game.
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Jul 3
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Close Combat5 has airstrikes, morter barrages and navel barrages. There is no air to air combat though.
I seem to remember a role playing game called Panzer General3D that had air to air combat... However the planes seem to hover and only move when ordered. Its not very good.
Generals is a good game though. Even if the aircraft are a bit vunarable. Even the B52's are bound to be shot down by a man with a machine gun....
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I have played the Panzer General series for years and still own all of the different versions of the game. PG 2 is actually much better rated than 3 was and is much more intuitive to play. The maps are much better, the units move easier and look better. The thing to remember about the PG series is it is turn based strategy, not real time like Close Combat (which I also play) or Red Alert 2. It is closer to a board wargame than a video game at all.
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Jul 3
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OK, I got a list going. I'll go to Half Price Books today and see what I can get. Last time I got Red Alert 2 for $2.98 and Yuri's Revenge expansion for something like $10!
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1) Blitzkrieg
2) CNC Generals
3) Panzer General
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Jul 3
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If you get Blitzkrieg you won't regret it my friend.
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Jul 3
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If you get Panzer General, Get PG 2. PG1 is EXACTLY like a board game, and PG 3 just plain sucks eggs. There is actually an online community that plays these, even though they are almost a decade old (for PG 1). They are still quite active.
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I've played both Panzer General 3 and 3D and enjoyed them both. I always thought that an air strategy game based on their engine would be good.
As for real time stratagies I tried "Sudden Strike" but found the units difficult to control.
So Crumbso, "Blitzkrieg" is worth its money. I've heard it was good. Do you know if it plays like "Sudden Strike"?
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Where can I go to see screeshots of these games? I saw some of Blitzkreig and it was horrible. The units were either over fuzzy, or over crisp.
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Ask and ye shall recieve!
First is Allied General, which is basically Panzer General from the other side. Allied General looks and plays exactly the sme as Panzer General.
This is Panzer General 2. I don't know what happened with Paintshop Pro, but the symbols for the British towns are NOT pink...
Then is Panzer General 3
The last is Close Combat: A Bridge Too Far
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Blech!
It's like... playing a board game!
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Jul 4
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You'd be surprised how engaging these games can be. Especially when you spend six scenarios building up a unit overstrength and some enemy unit comes along and wipes it out. Do you have DSL? I could send you a copy of PG2 or PG1 to try. PG3 is way too big to send...
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Heres a screenshot
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You'd be surprised how engaging these games can be.
That's what people say about almost all of the add-ons available. It's hard for me to enjoy anything if it doesn't look good. Picky, I guess. And Crumbso, those are pretty good, but I saw one with a Wellington (I think) bomber it was pretty poor.
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How could we forget Empire Earth?!
Its a bit like Age of Empires except you can start in the stone age and finish in the 3rd millenium with everything in between. There is a WWII era which is well cool and you can have submarines, aircraft, aircraft carriers, B29's with nuclear weapons, foot soldiers, tanks, battle ships EVERYTHING! Whats more you can advance to post WWII and get cold war stuff. But if you don't want to leave the WWII era then you just set the perimiters to start in WWII and finish in WWII.
Whats more its in 3D and you can set up a huge battle and then watch it in first person. Its well cool!
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I've played it and for me it just lacks scale. It is nowhere near epic enough for me.
I know I sound like a broken record but I think blitzkrieg is the ultimate ww2 strategy game.
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my top 5 of strategy games:
1)Homeworld + HW:Cataclysm
2)Medieval:Total War
3)Rise Of Nations
4)Age Of Empires 2
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My top strategy games:
1. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri/Alien Crossfire
2. Panzer General 2
3. Red Alert 2/Yuri's Revenge
4. Age of Empires 1 and 2
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There is a WWII era which is well cool and you can have submarines, aircraft, aircraft carriers, B29's with nuclear weapons, foot soldiers, tanks, battle ships EVERYTHING!
Whaoh!
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