Simviation Forum - FRENCH KEYBOARDS

Jun 28^th, 2003 at 4:59am

BMan1113VR Offline
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something that i typed to my friends while in france. . . please exscuse the bad language. . .and i mean in no way to offend french people

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THE LETTER
'french keyboars!?!'

i f###ing hate them

zhy?
why?*

many reasons

1. the w is where the Z is supose to be
2. the A is where the q is supose to be
3; the M is on the ,iddle line
4. you have to hit Shift to type in numbers
(. you hqve to hit shift to type in q period or question mqrk; or A comma!
-6. qll the # and symbols qre f###ed up
7. you get synbols like: <>§ù%*µ$£¤^^¨¨=+})°]àç_\`è-|("3é~&²€
_; if i hqve the pqcience i will right ,ore!

-QNDREZ
"BMQN1113VR"

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Reply #1 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 5:23am

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Hi BMan... Grin

..!
Interesting... Wink

...!
Did you try...
Start > Settings > Keyboard >
..and change the language..?
(Or does a French keyboard have a completly different key layout to the English keyboard)...?
...sacre' bleu... Shocked

...!
LOL...!
Cheers mon ami... Grin

..!
Paul.
(England)

P.S. just had a second thought... Roll Eyes

...!
I wonder what a Japanese keyboard looks like, do they have Japanese characters...?
..and what about an Arabic keyboard, does it have Arabic characters on the keys...?
???... ???... ???...!

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Reply #2 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 6:47am

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LOL...thank god I'm finished with French. Grin

I belive the layout is different Fozzer...I think the American one is slightly differnet from ours too...just a couple of minor things, though.

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Reply #3 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 7:07am

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Hi BMan... Grin

..!
Interesting... Wink

...!
Did you try...
Start > Settings > Keyboard >
..and change the language..?
(Or does a French keyboard have a completly different key layout to the English keyboard)...?
...sacre' bleu... Shocked

...!
LOL...!
Cheers mon ami... Grin

..!
Paul.
(England)

P.S. just had a second thought... Roll Eyes

...!
I wonder what a Japanese keyboard looks like, do they have Japanese characters...?
..and what about an Arabic keyboard, does it have Arabic characters on the keys...?
???... ???... ???...!

Japanese keyboards have japanese characters... PC99 standard for the modern ones, but there are about 5 different layouts for older types of machines

Arabic keyboards have the single arabic characters on the keys, the character linking is handled by the software

Example from the MS site

How it handles capital characters, i don't know...
my girlfriend either forgets them when typing or they are handled by software

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Reply #4 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 7:22am

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Hi Whitey... Grin

...!
Thanks for the reply... Wink

...!

Hi Ivan... Grin

...!
Fantastic bit of info...amazing... Grin

...!
What is the link to that particular Microsoft "keyboard layout" site...?

We, (I), tend to think that all keyboards have "English" key layouts, it's obviously not the case....

...!

Cheers all... Grin

...!
Paul.
(England).

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Reply #5 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 8:07am

Ivan Offline
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Link to the middle-east Win 95 support page.

And not even all english-language keyboards are the same:
You have UK and US Layouts, the UK one has the pound sign instead of the dollar sign.

For the US 101/102 one, you have at least 3 layouts (i've seen 3)

Large Enter button, pipe symbol/backslash on the right of the plus/equals and small backspace
Large Enter button, pipe symbol/backslash on the far right of the text part on the right of the shortened right shift button
Large backspace key, small enter button, pipe/backslash under backspace and above enter.

Small enter means it has a vertical span of 1 row instead of the 2 rows the large ones use

I have 1 of the first and 2 of the third version at home, and have sometimes used the second version, but these are quite rare.

Most of the recent keyboards in holland are of the third type, but don't have the special 'dutch' character layout... so we tend to use the normal US 101/102 setting

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Reply #6 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 8:40am

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Quote:

Link to the middle-east Win 95 support page.

And not even all english-language keyboards are the same:
You have UK and US Layouts, the UK one has the pound sign instead of the dollar sign.

For the US 101/102 one, you have at least 3 layouts (i've seen 3)

Large Enter button, pipe symbol/backslash on the right of the plus/equals and small backspace
Large Enter button, pipe symbol/backslash on the far right of the text part on the right of the shortened right shift button
Large backspace key, small enter button, pipe/backslash under backspace and above enter.

Small enter means it has a vertical span of 1 row instead of the 2 rows the large ones use

I have 1 of the first and 2 of the third version at home, and have sometimes used the second version, but these are quite rare.

Most of the recent keyboards in holland are of the third type, but don't have the special 'dutch' character layout... so we tend to use the normal US 101/102 setting

Hi Ivan..!
..very interesting... Wink

..!
(Just peeked at your Profile to see your particular country...for your keyboard type...nuffin'...)...LOL...!
LOL...!

Cheers... Grin

...!
Paul.
(England)....English keyboard type... Wink

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Reply #7 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 9:06am

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our new family computer has an american keyboard, i wasnt happy about that at first but now i am used to it.
those other keyboards look cool

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Reply #8 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 9:16am

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I've got a Hungarian one, it took me ages to get used to it having been raised on the English/American model!

There are two types of aeroplane, Spitfires and everything else that wishes it was a Spitfire!

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Reply #9 - Jun 29^th, 2003 at 3:19am

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Arabic AT
Arabic Enhanced PC (101 keys)
Arabic Enhanced PC (102 keys)

Ooh... Enhanced! Is it gold plated? Grin

But an Oriental keyboard is something I'd like to see! Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Siamese, it's all gibberish to me! Yet I've never had one thing cleared up though, we had a Japanese (maybe she was Chinese, I dunno) lady come to our school (back in the (Elementary) day), and she said there was an alphabet of about 100 and so letters. Yet every other source has said that Japanese has a symbol for every word, like tree.

(Sorry for the bad quality, I just slapped it together in Paint Shop Pro.)

That's tree to my best recollection. So is there a symbol for every word, or are the Japanese just limited to an 157 word vocabulary?

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Reply #10 - Jun 29^th, 2003 at 5:56am

Ivan Offline
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japanese keyboards use a limited 'kenji' set, usually have a normal US layout, with ALT to change to the japanese set, and extra keys enabling some more characters, but that differs because of the different types...

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Reply #11 - Jun 29^th, 2003 at 9:11am

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Hi BMan... Grin

..!
Interesting... Wink

...!
Did you try...
Start > Settings > Keyboard >
..and change the language..?
(Or does a French keyboard have a completly different key layout to the English keyboard)...?
...sacre' bleu... Shocked

...!
LOL...!
Cheers mon ami... Grin

..!
Paul.
(England)

P.S. just had a second thought... Roll Eyes

...!
I wonder what a Japanese keyboard looks like, do they have Japanese characters...?
..and what about an Arabic keyboard, does it have Arabic characters on the keys...?
???... ???... ???...!

yes COMPLETLY (well almost completly) different layout. . .was really annoying Tongue

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Reply #12 - Jun 29^th, 2003 at 9:17am

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LOL...thank god I'm finished with French. Grin

I belive the layout is different Fozzer...I think the American one is slightly differnet from ours too...just a couple of minor things, though.

american's are not much different. . .

switch @ and "
the $ is instead of the £
the # is instead of the €/$
instead of the key with theese three: (`¬¦) we have just ` and ~
instead of the key with (#~) we have (\|)
the enter key varies between keyboard

so basically i can use the english one practically (the @ symbol is a little hard); but the french one is impossible to adjust to for a week!!!

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