Simviation Forum - B744 from Atlantic Sun Airways

Reply #15 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 12:19am

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Hey, Rifleman

I've read many of your posts and I know of your experience and expertise in the aviation world. However, I thought that it was unnecessary for you to go picking on my shortening of the term. It is common knowledge that the B744 is the Boeing 747-400. I was posting a screenshot, not teaching a class. People use short forms all the time... I did not use it to "save energy". If I wanted to, I'd b typin like dis. Like I said before, even the FAA refers to it as a B744, so they're jumping off the cliff?

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I just checked out the Boeing site to see what the heck a 744 was and guess what ? ..........no such plane..... Are you re-naming a 747-400 a 744 ?

For you to start off so sarcastically wasn't necessary.

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Reply #16 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 12:50am

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Anyway... thanks to all who responded to my post. Grin

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Reply #17 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 12:50am

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Auto dialer? What? Full naming has a value ... more credit than given? Give me a break, Rifleman. Seriously though, - get your facts straight before you post something like that again....
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Reply #18 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 2:29am

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Seriously though, - get your facts straight before you post something like that again....
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Philliptan, I am sorry that you thought I was being sarcastic in my original question. I see things on here all the time which defy my logical brain to comprehend....since I am not up on every type and model that is available to the aviation world, I ask when I see something that appears foreign to me .....maybe one more smilie would have helped you see I was looking for info with my question, and not trying to ridicule........shortcuts are fine for those who wish to use them but for me, I try to keep the standard that I feel is on the front line....As a note on this, my good friend Chris who now flies for a major US airline (Delta) came from the USAF and flew some high level stuff. I have never heard him once utter "Bone", when referring to his B-1B which he used to ride in the left seat of for eight years...... go figure.....

So tell me Guest Mark, what fact isn't correct in what I first stated ?.........the official name of the A/C in question is the Boeing 747-400........from the horses mouth.......you can check it here to verify it for youself and then come back and tell me what fact wasn't straight in my findings......http://www.boeing.com/commercial/flash.html

Since I have said all that I feel is necessary on this subject, I will allow you to have final say and tell the world whatever you have a need for, and I will sit by and watch this pass. For me, its water under the bridge now
Lets get back to having fun........

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Reply #19 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 12:23pm

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Ok... I think we're both entitled to our opinions and that shouldn't be a barrier between us. I think you'll be glad to note that I do love using the full name/designation when I feel it's necessary

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Lets get back to having fun........

Well, that's what I'm here for... Wink

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Reply #20 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 1:16pm

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Philliptan, how's it going?
Once you get to know Ken, you get a certain respect for him. When I first became a member, we almost had words because of a picture I edited. After that I realized to take "smilies and saddies" with a grain of salt. He has definatley earned the respect from many here as I guess you will see eventually since you are new to the forums. You will definatley know where you stand with Rifleman.
As ken said, Quote:

maybe one more smilie would have helped you see I was looking for info with my question

So I would relax alittle. I would hate to see if somebody gave you some constructive critisizm like, "I didn't know tires from a 747-400 left jetwash" ??? ???

You see what I mean, we all take it with a grain of salt.

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Posted by: Rifleman Posted on: Jun 2nd, 2003, 4:11pm
I just checked out the Boeing site to see what the heck a 744 was and guess what ? ..........no such plane..... Are you re-naming a 747-400 a 744 ?

After re-reading the above quote from Rifleman, it looks like you might have taken it the wrong way. It was a simple sentence questioning an aircraft, that's it. Half the time a response might have been, "oops, sorry, a typ-o error, Thanks Rifleman".
So to end this I would leave you with some advice, "Welcome to simV, it is always nice to see somebody new posting alot of shots, Raw and Edited, but before you start getting "involved" with people here, (especially some one like Ken who basically "manages" the graphic forums), start off on a good foot. A good First Impression will go far here!

As for the so called "guest",
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Posted by: Mark M. Posted on: Jun 2nd, 2003, 5:49pm
Uhm, do you know anything about commercial aviation? Maybe you should do a little more research before you openly insert your foot in your mouth again...

You most likley do not even belong on the same thread as us.

like I said Philliptan, Welcome to SimV,
Dave 8)

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Reply #21 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 1:27pm

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Hi Dave... thanks for the welcome!

Of course I would like to start off on a good foot here as at anywhere... I was just posting my screenshots and minding my own business. I'm sure Ken, with his many years in aviation, knows immediately from the screenshot that it was a 747-400. And that he need not have checked the Boeing site to see "what the heck a B744 was". So, I felt that his reply was sarcastic in nature.

Maybe like what you said, I need to take it easy with Ken, and I definitely will. Though I must say that it wasn't a typo and people do refer to it as a B744. Well, Ken and I have one thing in common and that is, a love for aviation. So hopefully, we'll build on that.

So, like Ken, for me this is over and I hope to enjoy it here! Wink

Cheers,&&Phillip Tan&&

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Reply #22 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 1:32pm

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Glad to hear it Philliptan. That's what makes these forums so different from others..... we all respect each other not like some other forums that maybe Mark M belongs to! Keep the pics comming!! 8)

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Reply #23 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 3:16pm

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So now if you really want to know if you have been officially welcomed into here, this is what happens to most when they post in here, at some time or other......I take a run at editing the edit which has been posted.....I show before and after .....subtle, but lots done ! Grin

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Reply #24 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 4:06pm

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Hey Ken,

Ok... you've tweaked the contrast, sharpened the picture and added a border.... nice.... but I like mine better! Tongue

BTW, call me Phillip. Wink

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Reply #25 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 4:46pm

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Hey Ken,

Ok... you've tweaked the contrast, sharpened the picture and added a border.... nice.... but I like mine better! Tongue

BTW, call me Phillip. Wink

Well well,... you got almost all of it correct.........I did also however, call in the greenskeepers to fertilize and green up the grass a bit, hired a paving crew to repair the burns on your runway due to your early take-off rotation, resurfaced the entire length to improve the surface after fading from UV damage by sunlight, brought in a painting crew to re-new the faded colour on the engine nacelles, painters also brought out the vibrance of the back end, painters also relined the runway since they were in the area anyway, hired a crew of aerodynamicists to come and clean up the airframe to reduce drag, called in Greenpeace to come and clean up the local waters...........the border was only inserted to close up the difference between your posted image at 75 dpi (100237 bytes) and my web optimized 72 dpi image (99447 bytes). Notice your file size is larger than mine, even when compared to my double size image...........hmmmmmmmmm 8) ......other than that, you got it all right ! Grin

As you can see........I enjoy playing........ Wink

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Reply #26 - Jun 4^th, 2003 at 12:32am

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I did also however, call in the greenskeepers to fertilize and green up the grass a bit, hired a paving crew to repair the burns on your runway due to your early take-off rotation, resurfaced the entire length to improve the surface after fading from UV damage by sunlight, brought in a painting crew to re-new the faded colour on the engine nacelles, painters also brought out the vibrance of the back end, painters also relined the runway since they were in the area anyway, hired a crew of aerodynamicists to come and clean up the airframe to reduce drag, called in Greenpeace to come and clean up the local waters...........

Hope that didn't burn too big a hole in your pocket! Grin

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Reply #27 - Jun 4^th, 2003 at 1:53am

Rifleman Offline
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Hope that didn't burn too big a hole in your pocket! Grin

Not likely,..........I forwarded the bill to Atlantic Sun Airways......... Wink

after all, this isn't Air Canada, is it ? ???

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