Simviation Forum - Map visible?

May 12^th, 2003 at 5:02am

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I recently changed the map in the interactive map link on my RTW site to bmp format.

I know it now takes an age to load in, but I need to verify that it does eventually display.

If you're on dial-up (as I am) you can expect a wait of over 3 minutes if you haven't opened the map link before.

If you could click the link in my sig and the interactive map link that appears when you get there, and let me know if it is visible, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

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Reply #1 - May 12^th, 2003 at 5:36am

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Hi John,

Yep.... the maps there and you're right does take an ages to load.... even with the ADSL connection I'm on at the moment!

Looks good though - when can we expect to see Leg 14?

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Reply #2 - May 12^th, 2003 at 7:30am

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It finally appeared! At least this time I didn't get a blank with a cross in the corner and it showed a loading message continually so I let it run. It appeared to reload once but after nearly 9mins. I had a map!!

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Reply #3 - May 12^th, 2003 at 8:13am

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Yup, it's there

took me about 1 and 1/2 minutes but worth it. Grin

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Reply #4 - May 12^th, 2003 at 9:11am

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Loaded up no problem...

Even with a T1 connection it took about 30 seconds...

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Reply #5 - May 12^th, 2003 at 9:19am

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I see it. But, I'm on DSL.

HTML wasn't ment to display .bmp images. Usually site builders specify .jpg or .gif images only. It takes so long because the .bmp image is WAY huge. (1000x600).

Maybe try using a .jpg or .gif image instead. The clarity of the pic will be much clearer and the file size will be smaller, so it will load a lot faster. A Java applet would be cool to use there. You could write it so when your visitors click on a specific waypoint, they can read your report for that leg. Or whatever you want it to do.

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Reply #6 - May 12^th, 2003 at 11:48am

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I see it. But, I'm on DSL.

HTML wasn't ment to display .bmp images. Usually site builders specify .jpg or .gif images only. It takes so long because the .bmp image is WAY huge. (1000x600).

Maybe try using a .jpg or .gif image instead. The clarity of the pic will be much clearer and the file size will be smaller, so it will load a lot faster. A Java applet would be cool to use there. You could write it so when your visitors click on a specific waypoint, they can read your report for that leg. Or whatever you want it to do.

Thanks for the feedback everyone

The reason I'm using a .bmp file is that the map colours kept deteriorating with other formats and fisharno, click the red route lines - they take you to the relevant leg reports. Wink

(Or if they don't, there's something wrong there... ???)

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Reply #7 - May 12^th, 2003 at 10:15pm

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It's there. Just takes a while. Why don't you keep a master copy in .bmp format and when a leg is done you can paint in the relevant info and then save it under a different name in .jpg, move it to another folder and rename it back to the original before uploading. That should keep the quality OK (only ond generation copy) and be quick to load.

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Reply #8 - May 12^th, 2003 at 10:40pm

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It's there. Just takes a while. Why don't you keep a master copy in .bmp format and when a leg is done you can paint in the relevant info and then save it under a different name in .jpg, move it to another folder and rename it back to the original before uploading. That should keep the quality OK (only ond generation copy) and be quick to load.

That's not a bad idea. The only problem is that the colours deteriorate on the first save (badly). I'm not entirely sure why this is. I know jpeg format was designed for photographs and doesn't handle standard colouring well, but I'm sure it shouldn't lose colour definition as rapidly as it does.

I've tried with 100% quality in the save options in PSP 7 and it still happens.

Any suggestions would be welcome - I know the size of the current bmp format file is ridiculous.

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Reply #9 - May 12^th, 2003 at 11:03pm

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Have you tried converting them with a different application. I had a photo editor that saved .jpg files horribly so I saved them in .bmp with that one and used IrfanView to convert them. It's a viewing and conversion only (not much editing function) program and seemed to handle it better. The quality was vastly improved. You shouldn't get much quality loss with a single conversion. It usually takes several to loose enough to really mess it up. I haven't worked with PSP 7 but it's a top quality program so it shouldn't cause that much problem.

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Reply #10 - May 12^th, 2003 at 11:13pm

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I've got Photoshop 6 - I'll try it with that. Thanks for the help.

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Reply #11 - May 13^th, 2003 at 12:22am

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If that doesn't work give IrfanView a try. I just experimented with I Photo and IrfanView and IrfanView converts with almost no visible degradation. It's a freebie too.

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