I live in The UK and i like to fly aircraft from UK bases, but at the mo there isn't much about.  I use places like Brize Norton, Scampton and Valley, i also use Farnbrough for my flight video's, airshows.  I have also found it hard to get hold of realistic British aircraft.  I admit that i don't have the skills to produce things, and this poll isn't a moan, but i just want to see how many people think like myself.  I think that the work produced is wonderfull and i the developers are great, i am not dissin any work, Its great keep it up guys!

DSB design is busy with a Euro Fighter and  they also got a few Tornadoes abut 

Blasphemer!

You dare not call Slingsby an aircraft manufacturer?  BN is even returning the Trislander to production!

The Tower beckons!

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The US have taken many designs from the Brits to manufacture.  McDonnel Douglas for one now apart of Boeing has taken the design for the Harrier and the T-45 (BAe Hawk).  There are many great designs of British Aviation.  Although they may not have the glits and glamore like the stealth fighter or super hornets, they are well made.  I may be wrong, but it seems that european nations are trying to replace their out dated aircraft with a more sophisticated Euro Fighter.  However, due to cost over runs, etc. it is having a  hard time being pressed into service.

Anyway, SimV has a lot of downloads of european aviation.  Besides the poll, more choices is always better, no matter what.  Just no more airliners!

Yellow 5
USA

What about the hawks that the SAAF ordered?

I agree with all of you and do admit that the air industry in Britain is fast decreasing, but you still have to admire some of the work that has come out of the UK, like the Vulcan and Lightning, all time clasic aircraft!  Also freeware developers do build what they would like, and that isn't what this poll is about, it is about seeing how many people think on the same terms and levels!

Sorry, I was forgetting the Hawk 100 & 200 variants. Now Dunsfold is closed I have no idea where these will be produced.

a pax is a passanger....

I only found out about a year ago after doing some research, and i found that such clasic aircraft as the Buc and the Vulcan aren't licenced, and therfore not alowed to fly in the UK!  But they do fly in places like Africa!

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I don't think Jake is putting Africa down. More likely he's regretting we can't see the stuff you still have flying there.

hahahhahaha... geez make one joke... heheheheh... I live in Cape Town, South Africa. We got the newest Hawk trainer here at the moment for engin test. If any of you ever want to come take a look at the last flying Shackleton please just drop me a line 

I'd like to add a little about the forthcoming Eurofighter Typhoon Henk mentioned.

Take a trip over to http://www.dsbdesign.cjb.net/ and look in their forum. There are screenshots of the panel and aircraft in the Typhoon section.

I'm in no way connected with David Brice or the website. I just want to say that from what I've seen of this aircraft, it's going to be truly AWESOME.

I'm not a lover of fighter aircraft but this plane is unquestionably the exception. The quality is unbelievable and the fact that it's being released as freeware is nothing short of astounding in my opinion.

I would like to know what the Shackleton project is?
I think that the Eurofighter typhoon sets the argument earlier on Freeware Or Payware!

I have had a look at the stuff, it truly is amazing.
When i tried to download the stuff it said that there was an error on the page, help!

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My understanding is that the ftp server (to which the downloads on that page link) hasn't been set up yet.

Gents,

I would just like to add that the DSB Shackleton will be payware as it is for a fundraising project. We need some serious cash to keep 1722 in the condition that she is in. if you go look at the Shackleton 1722 page you can see she looks amazing 

that would be the RAF Virtual

A ha, but the RAFv server also seems to have problems as i can't download stuff from there either!

Ahh, i am not to good when it comes to this sort of thing, they have RN ships as well as aircrft!  Are they landable, do you know? ???

You Brits under estimate yourselves.Have you forgotten your Hawker Harrier?Well,its the backbone of our U.S.Marines close air support!The RR Pegasus is a work of aerospace genuise.Where is our supersonic transport?-It got emtied out of Boeings trash can 30 years ago!So I say bring those "Tea Suckers"on!!LOL!! 8)

Gents, i have to share with you that I shared with a few other lists...  I am sure you can also apreciate it

Good morning gents,

At 0730 this morning I got a very pleasant surprise! After 5 weeks of waiting my Shackleton book has arrived! Avro Shackleton by Barry Jones ISBN 1 86726449 6.  In the acknowledgements our very own Dean Wingrin is mentioned!

Now here comes the moaning part! The chapter on the SAAF Shackletons is a grand total of 9 pages long! With so many errors it’s just not funny.

Page 115‘s photo caption reads “1719/L, after having received all three phase modifications, is now at the Cape Town Waterfront Museum.” Now I am not so sure that we actually have something like a Cape Town Waterfront Museum and one can clearly see it is actually 1720 M on display outside NCO mess, Ysterplaat AFB.

Page 117 (rather sad page with 2 photos of 1718 just after she crashed) the one caption reads “now residing at the Swartskop SAAS Museum, 1721/N….” what is the SAAS Museum?

Something I found on page 113 seems extremely fishy to me.  It states in yet another caption “Mr.2 WG532 shows the Glow Worm rocket flare installation on trial at the A&AEE, which the SAAF adopted as standard, but the RAF did not”

After looking at all of the photos of the Shackleton Mk3s flown by the SAAF I can not find any evidence of wing mounted brackets to which these rockets would be fastened as it is show in the photo on the Mr.2. Can any one confirm that we did fit them?

I have not even started to read the text regarding the SAAF, but I think it should make for a rather interesting read! I will keep every one updated.

Kind regards,

Henk Hugo
www.shackletonproject.co.za

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Now on the issue of the Merlin, i would like to say that, the Merlin is one of my favorite helicopters and would very much like to see it as freeware.  Although the Italian Navy has now got involved and has had the Merlin made to fit it's needs also, it does show that whne the UK does turn out aircraft they are generally of a good to high standard!(My point of view) 

I agree that the nimrod is a very nice aircraft! one of my current favorites!  A Nimrod flies with the Red Arrows as a support plane, i saw it at Teeside airport last year!

I admit that the AEW3 version of the Nimrod, is VERY ugly!!!!  But i think that the Nimrod Mr2 is very nice!

No Henk, the Nimrod is NOT a jet engined version of the Shakleton... for starters, it's uglier...  

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A note to everyone who has voted!  Thanks the feedback has been really good, and i am wondering do you think i should close the poll within the next 2 hours?