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Apr 24^th, 2003 at 4:28am

Jake Derrick Offline
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I live in The UK and i like to fly aircraft from UK bases, but at the mo there isn't much about. I use places like Brize Norton, Scampton and Valley, i also use Farnbrough for my flight video's, airshows. I have also found it hard to get hold of realistic British aircraft. I admit that i don't have the skills to produce things, and this poll isn't a moan, but i just want to see how many people think like myself. I think that the work produced is wonderfull and i the developers are great, i am not dissin any work, Its great keep it up guys!

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Reply #1 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 4:48am

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Hi Jake, welcome to SimV. There are a number of developments on the British front at the moment, you might want to visit the TLUK forum here to see some. And a number of scenery and aircraft downloads are available here too for British military stuff, but like you I can never get enough of my home countries aircraft.

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Reply #2 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 8:28am

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DSB design is busy with a Euro Fighter and they also got a few Tornadoes abut Grin

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Reply #3 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 9:07am

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Actually Britain isn't much of a player in the world of military aviation manufacture any more. It has shrunk from one of the world's largest producers at one stage to zero aircraft manufacture. Nowadays Britain is only involved in components & engines - no aircraft manufacturer is based in the UK - that I am aware of..

What I'd like to see is more Russian, French & Swedish aircraft. These countries have very strong military aircraft industries & I feel they are under-represented in the world of FS.

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Reply #4 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 9:22am

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You dare not call Slingsby an aircraft manufacturer? BN is even returning the Trislander to production!

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Actually Britain isn't much of a player in the world of military aviation manufacture any more. It has shrunk from one of the world's largest producers at one stage to zero aircraft manufacture. Nowadays Britain is only involved in components & engines - no aircraft manufacturer is based in the UK - that I am aware of..

What I'd like to see is more Russian, French & Swedish aircraft. These countries have very strong military aircraft industries & I feel they are under-represented in the world of FS.

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Reply #5 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 9:29am

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I feel that what you are saying is not true. Think although we aparently only make engines, would a fighter jet be able to fly, let alone perform like they do without one? Think of the Hawk, one of the most succesful aircraft of it's time! Grin

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Reply #6 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 9:51am

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The US have taken many designs from the Brits to manufacture. McDonnel Douglas for one now apart of Boeing has taken the design for the Harrier and the T-45 (BAe Hawk). There are many great designs of British Aviation. Although they may not have the glits and glamore like the stealth fighter or super hornets, they are well made. I may be wrong, but it seems that european nations are trying to replace their out dated aircraft with a more sophisticated Euro Fighter. However, due to cost over runs, etc. it is having a hard time being pressed into service.

Anyway, SimV has a lot of downloads of european aviation. Besides the poll, more choices is always better, no matter what. Just no more airliners!

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Reply #7 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 10:05am

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Blasphemer!

You dare not call Slingsby an aircraft manufacturer? BN is even returning the Trislander to production!

The Tower beckons!

Well I'm as patriotic as the next guy but the Slingsby Firefly is hardly likely to set the world alight. Roll Eyes

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As for BN, its new owners are from Oman & the aircraft are produced in Romania. AFAIK

Sorry Jake. Having worked in the UK aircraft industry for almost 40 years I know Pete is right.
Total Hawk production amounts to 384.
315 at Dunsfold, Surrey (now closed Sad

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) + 50 in Finland & 19 in Switzerland.
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Reply #8 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 10:12am

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What about the hawks that the SAAF ordered?

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Reply #9 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 10:14am

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On a more serious note - the fact remains that (freeware) flightsim builders will build what *they* want and what piques their fancy.

Modern military aircraft - especially the "new generation" fighters present a definite challenge to the flightsim builder. We have vectoring thrusts, warping wings .. to name a couple ,,, that are not truly supported in the FS sims. "Technology" has long outpaced the MS Flightsim "capabilities".

One area that many flightsim builders have not "ventured" into is the project studies, etc.

Before the Boeing 767 was finalized, one of the studies was for a trijet ... the 747SP was also considered a trijet, as well as a twin jet... One of the most aesthetically pleasing fighters to grace the skies, the Hawker Hunter (back when aesthetics went hand in hand with performance), was to be the base for a twin engined civil business jet.

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Reply #10 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 10:24am

Jake Derrick Offline
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I agree with all of you and do admit that the air industry in Britain is fast decreasing, but you still have to admire some of the work that has come out of the UK, like the Vulcan and Lightning, all time clasic aircraft! Also freeware developers do build what they would like, and that isn't what this poll is about, it is about seeing how many people think on the same terms and levels! Grin

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Reply #11 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 10:25am

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I used to work at a company that had a few hunters (10+).... i dont see how that can be the base for a pax aircraft

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Reply #12 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 10:27am

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Sorry, I was forgetting the Hawk 100 & 200 variants. Now Dunsfold is closed I have no idea where these will be produced.

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Reply #13 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 10:28am

Jake Derrick Offline
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What is pax aircraft? then i might be able to understand! ???

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Reply #14 - Apr 24^th, 2003 at 10:31am

Henk Hugo Offline
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a pax is a passanger....

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