Simviation Forum - What Features Would you Like to See?

Apr 10^th, 2003 at 6:04pm

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I've been reading the "Things we Want" post and decided to make a poll out of it to see what you most want. Feel free to pick more than one.

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Reply #1 - Apr 11^th, 2003 at 4:27am

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This might of been before your time here Orenda, but i remember the uproar and petetions against the Adobe manuals for FS2k2. Roll Eyes

If i could mark that more than once i would, I just hope MS took note of it and actualy prints it.

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Reply #2 - Apr 12^th, 2003 at 5:32pm

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Meh! I don't know, look at CFS3 Wink

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Reply #3 - Apr 14^th, 2003 at 5:14pm

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I voted for all of them

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Reply #4 - Apr 15^th, 2003 at 9:53pm

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Space travel would be nice. Cheesy

Also printied manuals Tongue

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Reply #5 - Apr 16^th, 2003 at 2:25am

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Prited manulas would suck. Printed manuals cost more, pdf manuals are fine. Better airports and scenery would be nice.

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Reply #6 - Apr 17^th, 2003 at 6:58am

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AI HELICOPTERS and AI Seaplane operations and world wide high quailty scenery meshing - More clouds who cares?Old dunger aircraft that are already available on the net NO thanks

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Reply #7 - Apr 17^th, 2003 at 6:59am

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Prited manulas would suck. Printed manuals cost more, pdf manuals are fine. Better airports and scenery would be nice.

The reason we ask for printed manuals is so while we are in flight, we can look up what we want while we fly, instead of pausing the flight and having to open up Acorbat reader.

I don't know about you, but i find it irritating.
Maybe lifting the 100,000ft barrier to the very limit of the atmosphere would be nice, but for space travel, try Orbiter Space Sim.

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Reply #8 - Apr 17^th, 2003 at 11:29pm

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Airportsinteractive managemaent-you can scghduke flights-or run an FS airlibne-say Global, and manaGE cargfi load/checkin paswfers-interactive auirport terinmals-pan and zoom or allow a userb to contrio, the happenings of an terminal. Syebney's ternimak shold be redone-differnt-QLD's GC airport nowdifferent-they should update buildingsm, if a airport has chabged its buildings.

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Reply #9 - Apr 18^th, 2003 at 2:25am

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The reason we ask for printed manuals is so while we are in flight, we can look up what we want while we fly, instead of pausing the flight and having to open up Acorbat reader.

I don't know about you, but i find it irritating.
Maybe lifting the 100,000ft barrier to the very limit of the atmosphere would be nice, but for space travel, try Orbiter Space Sim.

Print out the pdf Wink

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Reply #10 - Apr 18^th, 2003 at 6:30pm

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Hey Mach2gy, you can put AI seaplanes into FS2002 using Traffic Tools and it's subsidiary programs.
I'd like to see something like the Jepesen real world weather for AI traffic. Something where you can download real world flight schedules as well as have airports as airline hubs(like KCLT is US Airways hub).

I think why most people don't want to print out the PDF is because many of us have inkjet printers and printing out large documents is expensive and time consuming.

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Reply #11 - Apr 18^th, 2003 at 6:46pm

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I'd like to see something like the Jepesen real world weather for AI traffic. Something where you can download real world flight schedules as well as have airports as airline hubs(like KCLT is US Airways hub).

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Reply #12 - Apr 18^th, 2003 at 7:14pm

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Maybe lifting the 100,000ft barrier to the very limit of the atmosphere would be nice, but for space travel, try Orbiter Space Sim.

Yeah, I have that already. (great program btw Grin

) But I meant to say is it would be cool to have the ability to go into a low orbit like in MicroFlight 3. Wink

I agree with most of the ppl here; I want printed manuals because you can read it when you fly. And when you print it out, the amount of money you spend on that is probably about the same as it would cost for a printed manual, so I'd rather have a higher quality booklet than a bunch of computer papers. 8)

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Reply #13 - Apr 18^th, 2003 at 8:55pm

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There are two scenery-related features id like to see: grass on land, possible small 'effect' textures that would stand on terrain and maybe even move as a helo is landing.It dont have to be a solid object, maybe a flat one and since the grass is small..) And id also like to see movable birds in the FS world (yes i know Lago's emma field has it, but why cant there be birds everywhere?) Cause, i mean, birds are one of the most dangerous threats to airplanes nowadays. Id even be willing to pay a couple extra bucks to see these things incorporated in FS Roll Eyes

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Reply #14 - Apr 18^th, 2003 at 9:18pm

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And id also like to see movable birds in the FS world

Yeah, that's a good point, there should be birds and other animals in FS. It would be nice to fly low over the forest and try to spot some deer or something too.

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Reply #15 - Apr 19^th, 2003 at 6:01am

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Print out the pdf Wink

Would do if i had a printer mate Grin

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Reply #16 - Apr 23^rd, 2003 at 1:44pm

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The birds is a brilliant idea, i was fkyin in micro flight demo i got with a mag and while the grapics are... well there nice, lets leave it at that, the birds are brilliant, id love to chase them around the city in a chopper, see who will be the dominent species of the air

I know the new game is to celebrate the 100 years of flight, but the planes are rubbish, ill fly some of them once and that will be it, i know i shouldnt be complaining.
Im a helicopter man so it would have been nice to see helis like the bell 47, huey and other historical types.

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Reply #17 - May 1^st, 2003 at 2:35pm

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Four words...... ARRESTOR CABBLES AND MEATBALLS!!!

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Reply #18 - May 5^th, 2003 at 7:45am

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Ive wanted arrestor cables and catapults for a long time in free ware. Id also like to see A LOT MORE DYNAMIC SCENERY like cars, birds, ships....... AND REAL AIRLINES INSTEAD OF FAKE ONES.

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Reply #19 - May 5^th, 2003 at 3:25pm

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There is a program for arrestor cables know as Aircarb (is that the correct name?) it's available here at simV. You need FUIPC to run it.
The reason (I suspect) that there are know real airlines in FS2002 is because M$ probably charges the airlines to put their name in the game (advertising). The reason we are allowed to do real airline repaints is because it's basically free advertising for them.

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Reply #20 - May 6^th, 2003 at 7:31am

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Well, I don't know about you but I'd like to see this:

1. A PROPER flight planner, with SID's STARs, the lot. If Wilco Pub can do it, MS certainly can.

2. The ability to run and maintain your own airline, and make a virtual profit. Like fantasy leauge online but with airlines instead.

3. More reallistic damage. I don't mean death and destruction, just things like tyre bursts, engine strikes and flameouts, compressor stalls, bird strikes and the like.

4. Why oh why cant we have a virtual flight crew? I for one have great diffuculty managing all the systems on board a moder, complicated airliner on my own in real time, I want a copilot. For that matter, why can't I go online and fly with somebody, in a cooperative mode (for example, F/O and Captain fly together).

5. More reallistic weather. I want windshear, I want icy runways full of standing water.

6. GPWS and TCAS standard on all aircraft that actually have it.

7. Get rid of 2D panels. I want to be able to copy a DVC over to any model. It's already a second model, so why can't we do this? Imagine, POSKY or MelJet with the MS DVC's.

8. More detail along the approach corridors for major airports. It makes sense - the lower you get, the detail is programmed in.

9. The addition of a new (and seperate) ATC window for online use. This window could take and incoming request, and provide the pilot with several options all related to that request, much in the same way the off-line version does. I hate typing while I'm fighting a 30kt crosswind.

10. The ability to request a change in heading and FL according to weather conditions. I also want to be able to declare emergencys.

That's pretty much it, my top ten.

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Reply #21 - May 6^th, 2003 at 12:05pm

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Very nice list there, 7 might just be possible since no more 2d panels in FS.... Wink

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Reply #22 - May 6^th, 2003 at 1:55pm

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If no 2d panel - how will panel aliasing work?
Unless there is a dummy folder ??

It must be obvious because MS has confirmed (it would seem) backward compatibility.

One thing I'd love to see would be - jagged rocky high mountains

But most of all - the open architecture & so that developers can make add-ons using programs like FS Design Studio & FS Scenery Creator, etc - not just Gmax .. Roll Eyes

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Reply #23 - May 6^th, 2003 at 2:34pm

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But most of all - the open architecture & so that developers can make add-ons using programs like FS Design Studio & FS Scenery Creator, etc - not just Gmax ..

Hear hear!

I knew I forgot something... Roll Eyes

What I meant about the panels is, to put it more clearly.

In the panel folder, there is a .cfg file, and a MDL file, plus textures.

Basically seperating the internal and external physical models completely, so whe can choose to use whatever DVC with whatever aircraft.

I don't see this as being a major hurdle for MS, surely just a simple change in the MDL configuration? Maybe it's more complicated that that, I don't know.

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Reply #24 - May 6^th, 2003 at 3:49pm

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What I meant about the panels is, to put it more clearly.

In the panel folder, there is a .cfg file, and a MDL file, plus textures.

Basically seperating the internal and external physical models completely, so whe can choose to use whatever DVC with whatever aircraft.

I don't see this as being a major hurdle for MS, surely just a simple change in the MDL configuration? Maybe it's more complicated that that, I don't know

They did away with 2D panels in CFS3. Also, the old familiar "aircraft container" structure is completely different & there is no MDL file at all. I'm not suggesting they will use this in the civil sims. We'll have to wait & see but the rumour of mouseable functions in the DVC makes me wonder where this is going. Personally, I've never liked 2D panels & always thought the DVC is the best idea. Roll Eyes

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Reply #25 - May 6^th, 2003 at 4:39pm

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I've never liked 2D panels & always thought the DVC is the best idea.

Yes it is the best idea -- think about it, a 3d cockpit atmosphere when flying your plane. These days planes with DVCs are considered excellent in quality and almost everybody goes after those add-ons with the DVC and most are payware. Imagine freeware aicraft with DVCs instead of having those 2d panels. So ACOF will bring about many changes in add-on creation and in a way make them more better and exciting

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Reply #26 - May 6^th, 2003 at 5:57pm

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I think 2D panels should still be there. Look at CFS3, you have to look down to see your guages on some aircraft. What I mainly wanted was the ability to use the mouse to manipulate guages in CFS3, however rumor has it that you will be able to in FS2004.

I'm still also pushing for Dolby 5.1 to create a more realisticly sounding experiance.

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Reply #27 - May 22^nd, 2003 at 2:03am

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I think the Idea of birds is great, I had the same thought a few days ago. Migratory birds would be good - Geese, pelicans, Storks. And if you were flying over the rainforests, Macaws, Amazon parrots etc. By rivers there should be reeds with all sorts of birds in them - Ive always thought FS has been verry lax in the waterfront area.

It'll never happen.

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Reply #28 - May 24^th, 2003 at 9:42pm

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1) More realistic cloud tops heights, especially in rain/thunderstorms.

2) More realistic looking ground scenery for farmland and the great plains. Looks to quiltish/repetitive looking.

3) The 'scale' of the scenery (trees, buildings, mountains) looks too big. At 5000' details look a lot more smaller. (More realistic scale).

4) City smog. Especially with haze/heat/humidity. The sky isn't cobalt blue when it's 95 degrees and humid in the midwest near a large city. The horizon is smoggy.

5) Tropical trees in the south. I just see deciduous trees in Florida.

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Reply #29 - May 28^th, 2003 at 9:49pm

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Looks like the tally is in with over 200 votes, here's what the people want most. Better Scenery.
From the looks of screenshots, that doesn't look like it's going to be a problem in FS2004. Grin

As a side note for all potential buyers of this new sim who worry about system preformance. The Geforce FX 5200 is a good mid range card right now that's selling for cheap at some places right now, $99US at some spots. (Being half Scottish, I find it neccessary to point out a good deal when I see it Wink

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Reply #30 - May 30^th, 2003 at 2:14pm

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3 words: Random Faliures Option

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Reply #31 - May 31^st, 2003 at 9:52am

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Two words: It's there.

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Reply #32 - May 31^st, 2003 at 9:22pm

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more aerobatic aircraft instead of one aerobatic aircraft

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Reply #33 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 1:56am

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make the random crashes really random, just cause you turn it on, it shouldnt mean you get a crash in mid-flight, make it so that it's like a setting, like crashes.

AND BY GOD GIVE US MORE CHOPPERS!

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Reply #34 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 12:23pm

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well i voted for More Aircraft Variety and better atc ( the last msfs i had was 98 and i havn't got see or use 2k and 2k2) For air crafti would like to see some of the aircraft from the 50s thorugh the 70s. i know someone is going to say u can just down load them but i dont know how to add them on...and 98s act just sucked no voice just a letter box Undecided

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Reply #35 - Jun 3^rd, 2003 at 11:13pm

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There is a tutorial here at Simviation for that: http://www.simviation.com/acinstall.htm

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Reply #36 - Jun 8^th, 2003 at 9:38pm

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I would like to see support for a little widget like an earphone that you plug into your ear and it stimulates your inner ear. The way you will feel an up sensation when you go up and a down sensation when you go down etc.

That would make it as real as it gets even if the graphics were pig ugly.

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Reply #37 - Jun 10^th, 2003 at 3:19am

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I personaly think that they needed a few more small twins, i would really like to see a good Cessna 310, Grin

I would also like them to put a Piper Chieftain.

All in All i'm interested to see where the new Flight Sim is improved by them boys at Microsoft. Wink

I hope it is at least the same standared as FS2002pro

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Reply #38 - Jun 10^th, 2003 at 9:36am

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Firstly - not birds - they're bad enough in real life!!! Grin

Secondly - i think Will's (Smoke2much) idea's great, can't see it happening though - decompression effects could be interesting...

Thirdly - more varied voices for air traffic control: you have a nice mid afternoon bimble over east anglia, and you can only seem to talk to americans. Its like being stuck permanently over RAF Mildenhall...
It even worse in france Wink

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Reply #39 - Jun 10^th, 2003 at 10:03am

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I agree with Hot_Charlie, there needs to be a greater number of ATC and pilot voices,

A couple of Aussie accents would go down well i think Grin

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Reply #40 - Apr 9^th, 2004 at 12:43am

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Thing that I would like most in FS is the scenery and weather...it would be awesome if you could create hurricanes or tornadoes Grin

. It would be good if the airlines in FS had their own section of the airport, instead of parking randomly all over the place. And the terrain textures could be better with more detailed mountains, trees, ect. Birds and other animals would be nice too

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Reply #41 - Apr 9^th, 2004 at 9:12am

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Speaking as a person who could get lost in a shoebox - I'd like to see small towns and villages . I don't know if MS included Canada as an afterthought ; but most of the country is just a big blank plain with a view goofy-looking trees to hold it down ! While admitting that most of Canada (blessedly) IS empty ; southern Ontario is not the vacuous wasteland that is portrayed in FS9 .

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Reply #42 - Apr 9^th, 2004 at 10:15am

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Reply #43 - Apr 9^th, 2004 at 10:31am

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I take it this thread is aimed at a future flight sim, even though it is nearly a year old and pre fs9.

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Reply #44 - Apr 9^th, 2004 at 7:04pm

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I would simply like to see just a bit more QC and debuging before the final release!

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Reply #45 - Apr 9^th, 2004 at 8:02pm

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Wasup everyone.

By Oz:
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So ACOF will bring about many changes in add-on creation and in a way make them more better and exciting

Very true. Espcially for my case. MSFS has become so flexible that I have already begun to utilize it at it's full potential. Ex: Making cars for the flight sim.

FS is slowly evolving and soon it will be a near perfect representation of our real for both the virtual ground and virtual sky.

Once my Porsche is released, it should encourage and inspire many people to do what I do or at least do something that would push FS beyond its limits and full potential.

We all have ideas.

A quote from a poster that I read:

"Many dream of worthy accomplishments while others wake up and do them."

For those of you who are not addon developers, why not try being one so that you can help the rest of us? Every new helper can have a big impact on the FS world. Look at me. I started as a nobody and look where I am as a developer.

I like the idea of aliasing the DVC and I love the idea of flying with the birds [and see them get sucked into the jet engines. lol].

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Reply #46 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 4:05am

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Put in more Piper aircraft instead of Cesspits (Cessna). I'd love to fly the same aircraft that I am learning in right now in FS.

Also, and most obviously, the terrain detail in countries other than the US should be put up. I fly at Brisbane and I would rather my being able to recognise a mountain in my home town rather than some river in Northern Winchestortonville in the US that I have never heard of.

My two cents.

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Reply #47 - Apr 11^th, 2004 at 1:02am

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Put in more Piper aircraft instead of Cesspits (Cessna). I'd love to fly the same aircraft that I am learning in right now in FS.

Also, and most obviously, the terrain detail in countries other than the US should be put up. I fly at Brisbane and I would rather my being able to recognise a mountain in my home town rather than some river in Northern Winchestortonville in the US that I have never heard of.

My two cents.

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Reply #48 - Apr 11^th, 2004 at 9:56am

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Improved framerates on a wide variety of machines / configuirations.

In other words it makes no sense that on one machine with say a 2 gig processor, 512 M ram, and a 128 M Dx video card that the framerates run 30+ with all settings maxed, but then on a different machine at 2.4 gig, 1 gig ram, and a 256 M video card it barely gets 20+ fps at the same settings....and on yet a third machine with a 1.8 gig processor, 256 M ram and a 128 M video card it also gets 20+ fps. And so on.

Without some reasonable logical predictable performance profile.... the consumer is left out in the dark as to how the product will perform on a given machine. It becomes a "crap shoot".

best,

..................john

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Reply #49 - Apr 11^th, 2004 at 12:13pm

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I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

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I would love to be able to fly up and up until I flew out of the atmosphere!!! - Fantastic!!!!

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Reply #50 - Apr 11^th, 2004 at 6:07pm

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I would like to see aircrafts reflections off water.

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Reply #51 - Apr 17^th, 2004 at 9:29am

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i would like to see thunderstorms from a distance when i add them to local wx. being able to fly around would be nice, and scenically pleasing, as opposed to the ts wx simply disappearing when you fly out of it.
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