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Mar 25^th, 2003 at 6:41pm

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Is downloading DirectX Version 9.0a likely to improve performance much? Apparently, you can't uninstall, so I'm reluctant to risk it in case of compatibility issues.

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Reply #1 - Mar 25^th, 2003 at 6:54pm

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If you're on Windows XP, you can set a restore point just befpore you install it and revert back if it does cause problems.

Having said that, DX9 has been better than a lot of previous incarnations in terms of compatibility. I've seen very few reports of problems at all.

Performance reports vary from no difference to claims of 50% jumps in f.p.s. I wouldn't expect miracles but DirectX is one feature that you're generally best keeping up-to-date with if you can.

If the worst does come to the worst, I have a file that will uninstall DirectX. Let me know if turns out that you need it.

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Reply #2 - Mar 25^th, 2003 at 7:31pm

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Thanks much for the info and offer!

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Reply #3 - Mar 25^th, 2003 at 7:35pm

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From what i understand FS 2004 will require DX 9 just incase you plan on purchasing FS 2004...

It may be that all our fears of DX upgrades will have to be faced at some stage soon Roll Eyes

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Reply #4 - Mar 25^th, 2003 at 9:43pm

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If it helps: I installed DX9.0a last week with my Windows XP setup, and have found no compatibility problems. I also updated my GeForce 2 Pro card drivers at the same time (glutton for punishment!), and my framerate has gone from 15-20 to 20-25, so there has been a little improvement.

Good luck!

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Reply #5 - Mar 25^th, 2003 at 11:15pm

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I too have done a recent upgrade to DirectX9 without any drama. I was reluctant to do so because the last time I upgraded it a number of serious problems were caused that were still unresolved at the time I gave that computer system to someone else whose needs were pretty simple. I found a "removal" program in that instance but the damage was already done.

Having said all that, I am still unsure whether I have had any framerate improvement at all, if there has been any its pretty small.

With XP, I set a restore point just in case but there is still a question as to whether or not reverting to that point would remove DirectX - somehow I don't think it would but fortunately haven't had to try.

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Reply #6 - Mar 25^th, 2003 at 11:58pm

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It hasn't made much of a difference that I can tell.

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Reply #7 - Mar 26^th, 2003 at 12:09am

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Hmmmm, seems like a few pros and a few cons. I guess I'll hold off for now since I'm quite pleased with the performance. To mix metaphors, I won't rock the boat.

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Reply #8 - Mar 26^th, 2003 at 1:57pm

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I downloaded it a while back, and I have winXp Pro, and it didn't make any difference, still getting crap frames! Even with the latest graphics card drivers for my Geforce 4! 10-15 fps with the default planes, with every single setting apart from scenery complexity set to off, I also happen to have 576 Meg of Ram and a 766MHz processor, I'm really pissed off!

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Reply #9 - Mar 26^th, 2003 at 3:15pm

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What video card do you have Greg?

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Reply #10 - Mar 26^th, 2003 at 9:13pm

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Installed it awhile back and actually posted about it.
Framerates are alittle better and visual quality.
The big thing I noticed was a better "over-all smoothness" to everything. Best way I can describe it- just a better way of how everything works together.

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Reply #11 - Mar 27^th, 2003 at 3:46am

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GreG,

If that is indeed a GF4, and not a GF4MX card, then you need to get a new processor. 766MHz doesn't really cut it anymore and it's definitely choking your video card. I run a 900MHz AMD T-bird with an ATi Radeon 7000 (64mb agp) without any problems at all. My FR stays around 20-25 when I'm around any city with Dx9. Naturally the higher I go, the higher the FR goes.

Oh, you should also kill off any programs running in the background. MSN, AIM, Yahoo, IE, NS...they all chew up some processing power.

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Reply #12 - Mar 27^th, 2003 at 4:26am

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I also was eyeing the X9. But from what I've seen if you want to upgrade video cards etc you need the processing power. On advice from others I went to 1.8G with Geforce 4 MX on Windows XP HOME with 256M RAM. Dollars stopped me going to 2.0+G but I've cranked EVERTHING and only get framerate stutter in max weather. So it seems go Gigs on upgrades first. Oh! I upgraded from 400Mhz. Can you imagine Shocked

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Reply #13 - Mar 27^th, 2003 at 7:41am

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I can honestly say that I don't know enough about it other than say that what I have got does enough for me at the moment. Being a frustrated pilot(some private flying has been done last flight 2001) I'm glad I've waited for FS2002 and a unit capable of producing what it does otherwise I think I would have been a bit disappointed. I've since handed on my old unit to someone who is now enjoying FS also. As far as addons I seem to find that scenery does not improve that much nor autogen buildings although I don't mind Gerrish Gray's trees at all. Bottom line I think it is still processor power. And lets remember $5 is a lot of money to someone who ain't got it!

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Reply #14 - Mar 27^th, 2003 at 7:58am

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AVsim have a survey running at the moment it may be worth a look(I'm only AVERAGE Sad

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Reply #15 - Mar 27^th, 2003 at 8:56am

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If the next version of FS requires a new DX, it will just shoe-horn it in there, when you install, and we'll all be running it soon anyway.

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Reply #16 - Mar 27^th, 2003 at 1:31pm

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I have discovered, quite by accident, that FS2002 will run at 2x "normal" fame rate when DX8 is replaced with DX7 by the re-installation of win2000 pro over win2000 pro. I do not know if this is true of winXP. Smooth flying.

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Reply #17 - Mar 27^th, 2003 at 8:51pm

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What will it do to FS2002 if you install DX9 when it was designed to run on DX8 ?
When you install DX9 should Window Media Player 9 upgrade be installed?

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Reply #18 - Mar 27^th, 2003 at 9:34pm

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FStipster,
Thank you very much for the help. This is the best place to get help when you have a problem.

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Reply #19 - Mar 28^th, 2003 at 11:41am

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FSTIPSTER:
You miss the point altogeather. I am not talking about sim, rate. I said, DX7 doubles the FRAME RATE.

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Reply #20 - Mar 28^th, 2003 at 3:40pm

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Listen, know-it-all. I am quite sure that you have never ran FS2002 with DX7. Try it, then spout out your wisdom.

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Reply #21 - Mar 29^th, 2003 at 3:50am

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Thanks Hoot,

I wondered why my graphics card wasn't performing, it was meant to be the best one around! And it hadn't made a difference, we're hoping to upgrade to 1.6 GHz, since that's the highest this computer will go.

Thanks
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Reply #22 - Mar 29^th, 2003 at 1:46pm

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Hi GreG

I had the exact same probelm with my card as your having. It was a Geforce 4 Ti4200 128MB, i thought Flight sim was going to be great, i was wrong about 12 frames max.

I decided it was the card that was faulty so i returned it and still have to play with what i have got now. Hoping to get a new PC for fs2004!! Grin

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