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Reply #15 - Mar 27th, 2003 at 11:58pm

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Wow, looks great katahu.
 
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Reply #16 - Mar 28th, 2003 at 12:11am

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Thanks man.

I'm hoping that someone will step forward and help with the DVC.

In case no one does step forward, I'm going through some DVC tutorials. It might take a weeks (possibly a month and 1 week) before I even get the hang of it.
 
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Reply #17 - Mar 28th, 2003 at 1:47pm

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Well, as a trainee (me), this is how much I currently know about DVCs.

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I had to make some adjustements to the one of the objects in the model in order to fit the bitmap image.

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Well, I really have no clue what to do after this.

What tags should I give to those 3 green planes that you see (they're for the active gauges)?

Just by looking at the image, you people can tell that I don't know much about DVCs. That's why I need some help in this field.
 
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Reply #18 - Mar 28th, 2003 at 2:12pm

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That DVC is really coming alive. Just a few little fixes to it and it'll look awesome. By the way, the green planes is where i put the radar and digital flight info,if you look at the other pics of the 2d panel at the first page of the thread you'll see what i mean. For a trainee, you're doin great! Good luck
 
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Reply #19 - Mar 31st, 2003 at 12:44pm

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Uh, guys, everyone.

I'm beginning to feel the psycological strain on my brain when it comes to understanding those tutorials for the DVC. I need help here before my brain erupts like a volcano.

a nice tip will do just fine.

Here's a question. Do you really need Bitmap images (the ones that you apply on the PLANES) in order for the ACTIVE guages to work in a DVC?

If so, what's the proper way to use them?

Do you need to specifically name the PLANES (geometric term) in order for the GAUGES to work in a DVC? For example: naming a PLANE to $Altimeter with a bitmap image that has the same title.

Where am I going wrong?
 
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Reply #20 - Apr 1st, 2003 at 11:35am

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Hey everyone, now I'm starting to get the hang of this DVC business.

The only problem I'm have is that I can't seem to get the model to appear on my FS2002-aircraft list.

I checked the model.cfg, aircraft.cfg, folder names, etc.

Now where the hell am I going wrong in this part? I usually get models to appear in FS2002pro.  Now I have to figure out how to get the model to show in the list. Otherwise, I'll never know if I was successful or not.

Once I get the model to show, I'll have the screenshots ready.
 
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Reply #21 - Apr 2nd, 2003 at 4:34pm

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Since I am still new (not by much) to DVCs, I decided to experiment with a DVC by using a miscellaneous model I made earlier.

So far (for the first time in my life), I have become successful in making the model appear both externally and internally (even the DVC panel)!!!!!!! YIPPEEE!!!

?????? !!!!!! UUhhh, wellllll, sort of..........

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You see the ugly blue circle? That's the DVC panel. Well, in an ugly way.

But the bright side is, I finally managed to make the DVC appear. I'm getting one step closer to achieving my goal.

Remember, what you see in the image is an sample flight model (not the Have Blue). But soon you will see a nice DVC on the Have Blue model.
 
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Reply #22 - Apr 7th, 2003 at 10:38pm

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Uhh..guys???

I'm still waiting for some help here. I don't want to make any more changes to the Have Blue's DVC panel on my own for fear of making a severe mistake.

If you wish to help, my e-mail address is salc1711@msn.com

I have read many tutorials involving DVC (s) and stuff. In fact, I have probably read every tut there is that involves GMAX.

What the hell am I missing here? The DVC panel is still tilted 90 degrees (the image that is), I'm getting tired of going back and forth (make model, goto sim, exit sim, adjust model, goto sim, exit again, adjust model, goto sim, STILL NO PROGRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

If any of you people wish to help with the model, I'll e-mail you the GMAX model (compressed) to give you an idea of where I might have gone wrong. I'll also e-mail the model's aircraft folder that I made for the F-117A Have Blue model:

F_117A_Have_Blue\ Model folder
                             \ Panel folder
                             \ Sound folder (empty)
                             \ Texture folder (empty)
                             \*.air file
                             \ aircraft.cfg file
and so on.

The reason I will send this is clear. To see where and what I did wrong in what process of the aircraft's construction and setup. I'm trying to give as much info on my situation as possible so that I can recieve the kind of feedback I expect.

I will not give up on this project (EVER). I don't want to let anybody down at this point. I am determined to make this an acurate model (near perfect) and post it (with full features) on simviation.

I will give full credit to those who help me on this problem (the same way I did for Oz, who helped create a nice custom panel).
 
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Reply #23 - Apr 9th, 2003 at 3:50pm

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Finally, I got the darn thing fixed.

Now comes the biggest question of all, where in the underworld did that square hole came from? Oh well, at least I got things straighten out.

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My work in this part is almost over, soon I will need someone that can help make the flight dynamics of this aircraft. There is a website of this aircraft. In it, contains a wealth of information. From the Have Blue's history all the way to its specifications.

I estimate that Project Have Blue will be complete by the end of May 15. After it's finished, it will be posted on simviation. The aircraft is for FS2002.
 
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Reply #24 - Apr 9th, 2003 at 5:08pm

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that square hole is where the radar goes on the panel. If you cant put the radar on the DVC, i guess you can choose any other gauge that might suit it.  Wink Good job man
 
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Reply #25 - Apr 9th, 2003 at 9:07pm

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Actually, I think that's the same radar that appears on the Dassault aircraft (posted in the FS2002 Military page). I have the Dassault and I've seen that radar appear in the DVC. So, I believe it's possible that I must have done something wrong that resulted in its transparancy. I think I can fix it.
 
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Reply #26 - Apr 10th, 2003 at 7:39pm

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Here are the specs I have gathered for Project Have Blue. I hope this is enough to convince some people to help. The kind of people I am looking for are those who are GOOD at making nice flight dynamics.

Have Blue Specifications EXTERNAL DIMENSIONS:   
Wing Span 22 ft 6 in
Length overall 47 ft 3 in
Height overall 7 ft 6.25 in
Wing Area 386 sq ft
Wing Sweep 72.50 degrees
Tail Cant 30 degrees
Tail Sweep 35 degrees
WEIGHTS AND LOADINGS:   
Weight (Empty) 8,950 lbs
Max T-O weight 12,500 lbs
Max Fuel Load 3,500 lbs
Max Payload None
ENGINES:   
Power Plant (#) GE J85-GE-4A (2)
Power Plant Source T-2B Buckeye (no modifications made)
Thrust About 2,950 lbs
Specific Fuel Consumption About 0.98
PERFORMANCE:   
Max speed .8 Mach (600 mph) @ sea level
Landing Speed 160 knots (296 km/h; 184 mph)
Max Range/Endurance 1 hour

For more information, go to

http://www.f-117a.com/Have.html

Those who help at this point will be credited for what they did.

NOTE: The Gmax model is still ready for those who help on landing gear construction (I couldn't find any info on the gears).
 
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Reply #27 - Apr 10th, 2003 at 8:19pm

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Hey Katahu, if no one shows up to make an air and cfg file here at the simviation forums, you should try at the sim-outhouse.com forums. I believe there are many designers and file editors there who would be willing to help you.  Smiley
 
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Reply #28 - Apr 11th, 2003 at 3:46pm

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Thanks OZ!!!!!
 
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Reply #29 - Apr 11th, 2003 at 9:02pm

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Latest update:

I added some things to the aircraft. In one case, I had to remove the radar and replace it with another due to the fact that the radar didn't want to show up on the main DVC panel.

From left to right you can see the 2 thrust levers, main DVC panel, DVC radio stack, joystick, and the electrical control unit on the far right side.

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I also decided to change the color from Sky-Blue to Stealth-Black to give it a bit of a sinister look.

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You can easily notice the high wing sweep from this nice view with the sun casting light over it.

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What do you think? Good huh?

PS: The thrust levers and control stick are not animated. I can't seem to get those to work. Maybe I've been giving them the wrong tags in GMAX.
 
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