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Mar 18th, 2003 at 10:51pm

Katahu   Offline
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I have started a project long ago that involves one aircraft: the F-117/A Have Blue. This aircraft is the predecessor to the F-117 Night Hawk. It is a sleak, revolutionary aircraft that laid the ground to the now-known Night Hawk.

So far, I have completed the external part of the aircraft (the body) except for two things: Movable control surfaces and Landing gear.

The cockpit may be alright, but it still needs some fine-tunning. I need someone who specializes in this field (VCs or DVCs). I am not that good with VCs.

I also need someone who specializes in gear construction and another individual who is good with 2-D panels and gauges. I have an cockpit image of the Night Hawk in case you need it.

And last, but not least, someone who is knows a lot about flight dynamics. I know this aircraft is unstable and some of you have the tendency to alter the dynamics to make it stable, but there could be another way around this habit of yours.

Instead of altering the flight dynamics, why not use the autopilot as some kind of fly-by-wire system? In simviation, there is a Dauphin helicopter that uses A/P (autopilot) to maintain a hover. If that can be achieved, so can the fly-by-wire method.

I am not trying to develope a permanent team here. Just a temperary one that can help me finish this project.

Those who come forward will be given the Have Blue model in GMAX format (I don't have FSDS). A lot of credit will be given to those who help, once this model is completed and posted in Simviation.

The Have Blue model is ready and available for those who choose to help.
 
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Reply #1 - Mar 19th, 2003 at 9:07am

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Now THIS is an excellent example of "Help Wanted" ...

1.  "This is what I want to do"

2.  "This is what I have done"

3.  "This is what I need help on :"

Now, if I knew a bit more about modelling, etc., with gmax.....
 

Felix/FFDS...
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Reply #2 - Mar 19th, 2003 at 3:45pm

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I understand. It's hard to find good modelers who are good with GMAX.

To give you and idea what I have accomplished in the past, here is an example:

Remember those weapons I have uploaded to simviation (I you've seen them)? They were titled Rifles of War (if I can remember the name). I uploaded another file a month ago at least. Inside was a human character with 2 recently-made weapons. All of those models were made entirely out of boxes.

I always make my vintage models with the usual objects. As for any aircraft that involves stealth, I make those with a Spline.

Hey Felix, in www.discreet.com (GMAX website), they have a lot of tutorials (starting from the basics to the advanced). There are more tutorials in www.onnovanbraam.com (they also refer to 3Dmax as well).

This should give you an idea of how good I am with GMAX.

PS: The Skyracer I made long ago (Adopt-a-design page) was the first model to come out of my mind.
 
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Reply #3 - Mar 22nd, 2003 at 8:24pm

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I could help you make the 2d Panel, im not good with gmax and the rest... If you send me the pic of the cockpit, I can add some gauges to it and make it appear right in the sim.
 
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Reply #4 - Mar 23rd, 2003 at 4:39am

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Well, i made a 2d panel from scratch a few hours ago. I do plan to enhance it a bit. I had to find a good pic of the F-117 cockpit and base the panel on it, however this is not photo-realistic. (But very close to the real thing) Please keep in mind that this is just the main panel texture and no gauges are added yet. I just want to know if you like it first so i could then add the gauges [radar,HUD] Well, here it is:


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Reply #5 - Mar 23rd, 2003 at 2:37pm

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Nice panel you got there OZ.

It's almost close to the Have Blue version.

I have screenshots ready for you in case you never saw how the Have Blue aircraft really looked like.

The screenshot will only include perspective views. Like I said in the topic of this thread, I'm not good with VC(s).

I only have a cockpit image of the Night Hawk but not of the Have Blue version. So, the cockpit I made was only a guess.

The screenshots should give you an idea on what the panel should look like.
 
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Reply #6 - Mar 23rd, 2003 at 2:42pm

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Oh, one more thing OZ.

What's you e-mail address?
 
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Reply #7 - Mar 23rd, 2003 at 2:57pm

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Email is sabre_alpha1@yahoo.com Id like to see those cockpit pics so i can modify my panel to make it look more like the Have blue panel.
 
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Reply #8 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 12:59am

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Ive modified the panel a bit and have added the gauges. If you dont like the gauges or how they are arranged, tell me and ill fix em. Heres the panel:

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Reply #9 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 5:50pm

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Ok, ive done some very small modifications (again) and have added the HUD. Tell me if ya like:

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Reply #10 - Mar 27th, 2003 at 7:39pm

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Well everyone.

Oz has done a excellent job on the 2-D panel I needed for this project. Now it's time for the next step: the DVC and/or gear animations.

I know there are a lot of you people out there that are good at making DVCs or Gear animations.

The F-117/A Have Blue model (for GMAX only) is still ready for anyone who is still willing to help.

After the physical model is complete (both in scale and features), the final steps will begin.

The final steps are:
1. Surface Textures
2. Flight Dynamics

Guys, don't forget about the autopilot idea I talked about at the beginning of this thread.

One careful note I like to add:

When it comes to flight dynamics, the Assembly-line program [in excel format] will be a good thing to start with. You can find more information about it at the AVHISTORY website.

I thank Oz for his help. All credit for the 2-D panel design goes to Oz.

PS: www.google.com is a good place to start with for info (in case you never knew about it).
 
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Reply #11 - Mar 27th, 2003 at 8:24pm

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Thanks for the credit katahu
 
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Reply #12 - Mar 27th, 2003 at 11:38pm

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As of now, I have made some improvements on the aircraft's cockpit. I may not know what it looks like exactly, but it closely resembles the kind of cockpit that fits the Have Blue aircraft.

I'll try to post some pics for you people to see. This is the first time I ever try to post even one pic. So, I'll give it a shot.

Still, I need someone who can make this static cockpit into a DVC (dynamic virtual cockpit).
 
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Reply #13 - Mar 27th, 2003 at 11:48pm

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Can you people see it?

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Reply #14 - Mar 27th, 2003 at 11:54pm

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The pilot is not my design. If I remember correctly, I might have gotten it from the free flight design web site.
 
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