Okay...can someone help me installing project AI? Before, when you wanted a certain airline in your sim world, you would just click on the darn thing and then run the installer. Well, I went back to ProjectAI.com and the installers are no where to be found. I don't know what I need to get things loaded! There are no instructions on the site, the FAQ link in not active and there is no help!
Can someone help me out?????
Thank you!!!

Hey there Ross, For being your first post, you are already family...you helped me out a great deal.
I use to be proficient in all this stuff, until I went on a 3 month unexpected vacation from simming due to a computer crash and a dog-chewed FS2K2 disk 1.
Anyway, Thank you bunches!

Thank you for the very nice sentiment!
We are very glad to have you in the community.

I do have another question for you or anyone!
I downloaded the base installer...and the airline packages (both the old installers and the new). Everything seems to go great, but when the self installer (for the new style) runs, it goes through and installs all the appropriate files and a check mark appears next to all the items...but unfortunately there is no check mark next to "AFCAD Files Installed". I have AFCAD, so, I am not sure if this is normal, or should it have installed them?

Whilst I've used AFCAD to get the A.I. aircraft to use my add-on scenery correctly (where I can find the files) I've never bothered with the A.I aircraft themselves.

However, the more I read this thread, the more inclined I am to take a look.

Lee Swordy's original Ttools, whilst an EXCELLENT creation and grandfather of all A.I. utility files, always looked a bit too complicated for me to have the times to get to grips with it.

These Project A.I. installers sound interesting though.

Do they install all the required A.I. aircraft too if you don't have them? Lastly, what are the frame rate penalties like? I realise that an increase in A.I. traffic is one of the major culprits for f.p.s. drops, but how bad is it exactly?

Hey there Tipster, Project AI (using the installers) loads all the required aircraft models and textures and everything. In addition, after you install a certain airline "package" you will also have all those aircraft as flyable. As far as the FPS hits, I haven't found any -and I mean any- framerate distortion. If I ever have to do a re-install of my flight sim, Project AI is the first to go back in...which is how and why this thread came to be.

On a personal note...it is glad to have you still here. I read all that was going on with you and I am so glad that some admirable person did such a good thing!
There are still good souls in the world!

Following the instructions above, I arrived at:

http://projectai.flight1.net/installer/default.php

I went to d/load the PAI-Installer...and......"File not found".  

Obviously I'm stuck now as I understand I need that to install anything else.

It was my d/load manager. I must have missed the notice saying not to use it - if there is one. Getting the file now.

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PAI adds it's own AI only aircrafts plus textures, see my above post about the aircraft

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That file doesn't delete the default aircraft, it just removes them as AI traffic from FS2002.
What I did was move and rename my default traffic.bgl file to a safe location, that way if I ever need to return to the default AI, I could.

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I hope I helped

Ok thanks for that both.

Two (hopefully final questions.

I know i'm sounding like a pregnant Father with all this, but this is stepping into the unknown for me and I get real twitchy about installing anything if i don't know what it's doing, so please bear with me.

1) The base installer I've got is PAI Installer v1.19d.zip.
Is that the old one or the new one and where do I find the other one? (I assume I use the old installer for the airline files duly marked that way.)

2) I already have AFCAD files installed for a lot of my add-on scenery because the taxiway and parking positions are often different. Are project AIs files going to overwrite these with their own AFCAD files for the default positioning?

1. The installer's most recent version is 1.19d, so you have the most recent version. The old installer files are just .exe files, which are self-installers.

2. Not many PAI files will overwrite AFCAD files (I'm yet to see one, I think, and I have quite a few of the PAI set!), and anyway, you can uncheck that option if there are any AFCAD files needing installed.

Tipster....that is right. When you download the the file...unzip it, and you will see an .exe file. Double click on it and it will run the installer all by itself. It will do the full compile and decompile for you.
That's it.
Give it a shot!
Eric

*Staggering back in with cigarette ash all over my trousers*

It's a boy!!!!  

Ok -   - I installed the Easyjet package as they fly right out of my home airport. All's well. But, I've had a thought....

If I download ALL the PAI packages and install them, and then remove the default commercial AI traffic, am I likely to be leaving any airports with no Commercial A.I. aircraft at all because the airlines currently covered by PAI don't fly there?

Just looking for opinions here please.

Thanks again Eric. I'll live with having "Orbit" airways knocking around then...LOL.

Just ONE last question, then that's it - I promise.

Whilst scanning down the PAI list of available stuff, I came across Air Holland va. Now maybe I just never heard of them, but aren't they a Virtaul airline rather than a real one?

If so, are there any other VAs up there? It seems odd in a project that's supposed to add realism to have fictional airlines, unless I've got it all wrong of course...

Hmmmmm.....thing is, that's Air Holland va up there in PAI - and there is a VA going under that name.

Makes you wonder whether the aircraft are going to have "va" in their logos and whether or not the flight schedules will match the real airline or the VAs own manufactured version (if any).

LOL - thanks.

This PAI thing has set me off on a right chase now!

I've been to several sites including this one: http://airtravel.about.com/ in the quest for identifying whether the airlines at PAI that I'm not sure about, are real or not.

Air Holland doesn't actually appear on that one btw (in either incarnation) - so the list isn't definitive. It just means if the airline is there, I know it's good to go.

Wow!! I didn't get chance to get online last night...this thread has gone mad!!! hehe

With regard to the Air Holland virtual airline if you go to this link:

http://linksmanager.com/vatsimvas/links5.html

Air Holland VA is listed there and it looks like it is indeed a virtual airline.  Maybe ProjectAI are starting to add virtual airlines as well as real ones now?

Also, what may be of interest.... I'm sure I read somewhere on the projectai boards that there might not be quite so many new autoinstallers coming out anymore... think they are wanting to put the emphasis on manual installs of repaints etc so people have a better understanding of how AI and FS2002 work - Could be wrong but get downloading those packages now just in case!!! 

Btw... FS2002 tipster.... its really great to see you still here, have read quite a few of your posts which are always useful and i LOVE your round the world jaunt,  especially as you are from my neck of the woods!!! Screenshots are really great and your logs are always entertaining!!! keep up the great work mate! Whoever it was who paid your phone bill is a star 

Hi Kevin,

I was hoping you'd pop up LOL.

Take a look at that site I mentioned a couple of messages up - it does seem to be a comprehensive list (amazingly so) and the "va" element doesn't appear anywhere.

However, as you say, the work has been done and in the absence of an actual "Air Holland" file, I'm sure it works admirably as a substitute.

Before I install it, can you clarify if the A.I. aircraft associated wit it carry the "va" in their logos?

Great news about the comtinuation of the automated installer btw (for me at least ).

This is a truly awesome project you have going there. I'm just sorry that it's taken me this long to discover it. Well done!

I've not installe Air Holland as I personally believe it to be a VA...LOL...so I'm afraid I can't tell you what they look like.

Andrew, you don't have to delete any of the old files at all. The new ones will install right over top of them and not give any duplicates.  That's one feature the new installer has.  Makes for a lot less work for us all.

We're constanly working on files for our users.  Our beta department has just undergone a reshuffling and the process will now be faster and more efficient.  It had better be b/c at last count we have  .......oh yeah, we don't advertise what we're working on...
Suffice to say, when we get rolling again, you guys are going to be real busy with the installations.
KJ

@Kevin: I'd just like to say how much I enjoy all the work you and the PAI team have put in to creating all these fantastic traffic addons, it really makes the game even more realistic!