Simviation Forum - FOZZER_BASIC language program

Reply #15 - Dec 16^th, 2012 at 9:39pm

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Looks good to see something on the forum I can relate to,even if it doesnt measure up to some of the expertise described in the forum.Sim data manipulation eludes me big time.I mean,I can add fx_oldjetsmoke,and fx_navredm and external 'pretties'like that,but to change other things (ie,that steering problem on the Camsim Bizjet20,I am at a sad loss.These are things I DO NEED to learn.But I have NO knowledge of aerodynamics and manipulation of contact points.So it does me good to come 'here' and be able to relate to something.Good to see.Gents,I WILL try that Sinclair Basic.Your Line examples seem same as I'm used to working with.But ,MOST BASIC uses nearly the same syntax.QBASIC,BASIC,BASICA and such.Just slight omissions to some,and I think thats the major (if not the only ) difference.I'll let ya know what I think of Sinclair.Thanx so much for ALL the inputs and syntax styled jokes.!!

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Reply #16 - Dec 16^th, 2012 at 11:20pm

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stephan,

Here's something to keep in your files:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc526949.aspx

"How to Interpret an Aircraft.cfg."

(this might be incorrect, but here goes...):

10 PRINT "DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS? (1=Y 2=N)"
20 INPUT 1 OR 2
30 IF 20=1 THEN PRINT 50
40 IF 20=2 THEN PRINT 60
50 PRINT "IF YOU DO, THEN YOU'RE A SMARTER MAN THAN I!"
60 PRINT "DON'T FEEL BAD; MANY DON'T EITHER, INCLUDING MYSELF...!"
70 END

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Reply #17 - Dec 17^th, 2012 at 1:23pm

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Morning Lt.Viper Pilot...
I used the string input for the most part when I programmed multi-question,single input data.Been a long time,but something like...
10 Input "enter your name here for access;A$
20 If A$ <> "stephan" then cls,goto10
30 cls,? "Hello stephan"
The syntax here is most likely wrong.When Windows first came out,I swore I'd never get tied up in new fangled technology.I did just fine making my own database sheets and such.Then,I got to see Windows in action and gave it a try.Alas,I have neglected my BASIC friend for many years now.Wouldnt take long to get back into it,but I have to have a need to fool with it.My spare time is spent with FS9.
I may eventually step its priority up,as I did enjoy BASIC...seeing what I could do with it.But,one day at a time.
IF you woke up to a sunny morning,THEN enjoy it.ELSE GOTO bed.//stephan / 'Altitude With Attitude!' / Cool

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Reply #18 - Dec 17^th, 2012 at 2:12pm

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stephan,

Like Paul, the only real exposure I had with BASIC was playing the OLD Star Trek game on the TTY at school, almost forty years ago! As far as computer skills go, I probably know just enough to be a mortal danger to anyone asking assistance from
me. Other than that, I'm pretty much worthless...

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Reply #19 - Dec 18^th, 2012 at 12:17pm

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Viper pilot...Thanx for the link to the Aircraft Cfg. description.It seems to speak to me in a way I understand a little better.I can use it for sure.Thanx again.I recieved other links as well,and they were very similar,and may have been the same link in some cases and that I just wasn't 'getting it'. But I looked at the link you provided and I think it will help.I dont know where you folks got your understandings of figure manipulations.There isnt a school that teaches this stuff.Understanding aerodynamic and so on do have schools,but I find that hard to believe that all of you that create sim AC went to those schools or classes;and to read the instructions for GMAX,and try to understand what is going on there?...hah!...I might as well go to aerodynamics design classes!So,props to you all that understand this stuff.Without the help from all of you,I'd be dead in the water and growing bored with the whole thing!So thanks again to you and to all of the forum staff and patrons for your help!// stephan / 'Altitude With Attitude! Cool

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Reply #20 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 5:57pm

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BASIC is still used in teaching, used a java implementation (jBasic) in my second year of uni and I did rather enjoy writing a few small programs in it Cheesy

It was a simpler time. When a GOTO was considered a valid method to shift control to another part of the program Tongue

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Reply #21 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:30am

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Goto was good.I liked GOSUB and RETURN. I collected mineral crystals,gem crystals and cut gems.Ended with over 500 pcs. I wanted to keep data on them...what I paid for them,or if I dug them myself n where,date,name,mineral family,etc.Needed a windows type environment so I wouldnt be all day searching for certain data on certain specimen number xtal or gem.Also wanted a system where I could add data on auto numbered lines with input request so I didnt have to enter data for a new specimen in 'long hand'.Made my own prgm with BASIC.It did it all.Even had a 'draw' section where if I wanted to see what crystal system (ie., hexagonal,monoclinic,trigonal,etc.),I could enter the number designated for that system and the 3-D drawing would pop up.And it did much more that I wont continue to bore you with.But , yes, BASIC was fun.To sit down...make your own program...and keep adding to it and modifying it to perfection was an enjoyable and rewarding task.Making a program that did only what you needed without all the extra stuff is,in my mind,still the way to go. Have fun guys'. ---p.s.,,, took my SR-71 across 3 time zones last night to party at 3 New Years parties.The altitude and velocity on take off sent the virtual alcohol to my virtual head.Gave me quite a virtual buzz.Woke up with the worst virtual hang over ever! Shocked

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Reply #22 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 10:14am

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I learned BASIC on a mainframe at UMass back in the late 60's using PUNCH CARDS! Then on to Fortran and Cobol.

Had a number of the Sinclair ZX-81s and spent years customizing them and writing code.

Thanks for the memories.

best,

..............john

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Reply #23 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 10:24am

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I am curious about this little device that hits the headlines every now and again...

the "Raspberry Pi Computer" by Farnell ..>>>

http://downloads.element14.com/raspberryPi1.html?COM=raspi-group

http://www.maplin.co.uk/raspberry-piandreg-board-and-starter-kit-652805?_$ja=kw:...

I just wonder what form of Language it uses, and if that includes BASIC.
I haven't looked into it deeply so far, but there are/is lots of info on it, on the Internet!

Paul...GOSUB and up periscope.. Cool

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I still use the wonderful Sinclair Basic, and Zilog Z80 Machine Code, for various applications.

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Reply #24 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 10:23pm

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It appears I'm as ignorant in the use of the net as a man from the desert on his first deep sea fishing trip.I never had the net till 2 months ago.If I needed the net,I went to the library.And that was to come to Simviation.I see sites for Sinclaire(sw) BASIC,but when I go to them for a download,I get a bunch of advertisings for all kinds of BASIC including Small BASIC (what ever that is) and several others.Dont know a thing about them.Could be just like the old IBM BASIC,which is what idealy,I want.But IBM doesnt have it available as far as I can see.But like I say...Simviation is the only regular place I go.I hardly do any surfing. You folks have a good,safe New Year holiday! //stephan 'Altitude With Attitude! Cool

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Reply #25 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 1:39am

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Fozzer,

The Raspberry Pi is hardware. It speaks whatever language (operating system) is installed on it.

Most people use some version of Linux.

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Reply #26 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 4:21am

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Webb wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 1:39am:

Fozzer,

The Raspberry Pi is hardware. It speaks whatever language (operating system) is installed on it.

Most people use some version of Linux.

I just wondered if the Raspberry Pi hardware chips contained the complete, built-in Operating System language, like the 8-bit Computers; Sinclair Spectrum, Commodore C64, etc; or it required the user using an external (Linux) language to operate the system.
The Sinclair Spectrum contained both the BASIC language chip, and the Zilog Z80 Machine language chip, self-contained.

The price of all the necessary external bits of hardware, added together, makes the Pi a quite expensive computer!

I think I'll stick to my complete Sinclair Spectrum 48k.... Grin

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Reply #27 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 9:19am

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The Raspberry pi will run any language that will run on Linux

, such as tinyBASIC , on the Raspbian distro python is installed by default and ready to use as soon as you boot into the OS, but adding other compilers/run times is not a tasking job Cheesy

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