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Dec 6^th, 2012 at 3:30pm

stephan Offline
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OVERCLOCKING?...
OK...I have heard this term used for 3 years or more but I have NO IDEA what it really is,or if I can do it or if I can,will it help me or destroy my compu

ter.I have

FS9

on:

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name FROGS-PERSONAL
System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
System Model Dimension 2400
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2790 Mhz
Pentium 4 CPU 2.80 GHz
BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A05, 12/2/2003
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
User Name FROGS-PERSONAL\Owner
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 735.27 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.85 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Vid Card ATI Radeon 9250
256 Mb Memory
DAC Type:Internal DAC (400 MHz)

Question: By seeing what my system is,would it be worth my trying this 'overclocking',and if so,how would I go about it?Sorry about all the data I loaded up here.Thought it would get me a quicker answer if I offered all the info on my system up front.Thanx guys (and gals)! /stephan //Altitude With Attitude! Cool

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Reply #1 - Dec 7^th, 2012 at 4:29am

Fozzer Offline
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Hereford. England. EGBS.

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Overclocking = The sudden death of your computer, and all its associated Hardware, resulting in the considerable expense of replacing components, or purchasing another complete computer.

Leave well alone!.... Wink

Wink

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Trust me!

You appear to be having more than enough problems already, with your existing Flight Simulator programs, etc... Shocked

Shocked

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Wink

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Grin

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You don't need to tempt providence with any more experiments!

Paul... Grin

Grin

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Reply #2 - Dec 7^th, 2012 at 6:28am

Gregorio Offline
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Overclocking is basically boosting the processor to work beyond its published clock frequency. Say you have a processor that works at 2.8GHz (your case). You would go into the BIOS and change parameters that would make it work, for example, up to 3.5GHz.

The thing is, this is not for every processor and also depends on both the processor and the bios letting you change said parameters. The main problem when overclocking is heat - processors get very hot and getting them to run at higher clock frequencies makes them even hotter, so overclocking also requires rethinking yourn colling apparatus - from changing coolers and heatsinks to going liquid-cooled if you' really into it. As I said this depends on the processor and BIOS having features unlocked and available that you can change so that you make it run faster. And, as Fozzer already pointed out, you increase the risk of damaging your hardware.

With the rise of the overclocking phenomena, manufacturers saw an enthusiasts market there so there are processors that come already prepared for that - for example the Core i7 3770K, which comes with the necessary multipliers unlocked. I've seen videos of people running FSX with other "K series" processors from Intel at 4.5GHz!! As always, this is not without the risk of getting hardware damaged.

All things considered, you're better off not overclocking your hardware. Best option is to buy a new set with more up-to-date parts. You should do it only, and I repeat, ONLY if you (1) are an enthusiast of the technique and (2) are aware and accept all the risks involved, including bricking your processor and/or other parts.

Hope this helps!

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Reply #3 - Dec 7^th, 2012 at 7:41am

Fozzer Offline
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One thing I have never done with all of my many computer builds over the years, is to "over-clock" any of its components.

If I am not satisfied with the performance of a particular component, I replace it with something more suitable, and leave it as standard, to ensure reliability and longevity.

Tinkering is for brave, dedicated; "Tinkerers"!... Wink

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Paul.... Wink

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Think of Aeroplane performance v reliability:
"vne" = Velocity Never Exceed!

« Last Edit: Dec 7^th, 2012 at 8:59am by Fozzer »

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Reply #4 - Dec 7^th, 2012 at 5:31pm

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most of it.
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First place I'd start is replace the radeon 9250, I did, mine had more memory than yours and i replaced it with a 1gb card, i had a large increase in frame rate plus better graphics and some graphics were displayed that i didn't have before.
Edit: Just noticed you have only 1gb system memory, I'd increase that as much as possible but sorry to say this but i used to have to buy Dell pc's for work: I'd simply get rid of it.
regards

Steve

May the Mynd be with you.
So far my number of landings either passenger or pilot equal my number of takeoffs, but that is due to change

13/07/11 Passed BMFA Fixed Wing 'A' test.
FSX Gold

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Reply #5 - Dec 7^th, 2012 at 5:32pm

stephan Offline
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Fozzer sir,;My problem DOES lay within Flight sim.Not my computer.I have had IMB 8088s',Commodore 64s',128s' and 128s' with the 'whopping' 256 kb memory box attachment, and created/programmed my own Windows before Microsoft was born or 'Windows' was a 'requirement' for computing.So when it comes to keeping my computer running smooth,I have NO problems.I heard years ago that overclocking could be dangerous to a system and I (given the cost of computers back 'in the day') wasn't in a hurry to trash my gear.But,figuring the skills of those of this forum who may be more knowledgable in game and system tweeking,I thought I'd ask.Obviously I understood there was a risk in doing such a thing.That is why I offered my question as I did.So,no,I am not WITHOUT some knowledge of computers.Just game playing with them like some do was never anything that interested me when my interests in the past was of a more serious note than playing.Please dont consider me ignorant of computers.Money is tight,so I cant go out and just buy all the fancy gear I would like to have.Programming was my thing.Gaming is new for me.So,again,no.I have no problems with my system,or the maintenance of same.Just learning how to play games like a kid with nothing better to do is new to me.//and as always, Altitude With Attitude!

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Reply #6 - Dec 7^th, 2012 at 9:58pm

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Over-Clocking: and all this time I thought that was when ya had too many clocks around the house to tell ya what time it was - Hummm ???? anybody know what time it is Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Grin

Please do NOT link images, it slows the forums down for other users.

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Reply #7 - Dec 8^th, 2012 at 3:56am

Fozzer Offline
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Posts: 24861

Jetranger wrote on Dec 7^th, 2012 at 9:58pm:

Over-Clocking: and all this time I thought that was when ya had too many clocks around the house to tell ya what time it was - Hummm ???? anybody know what time it is Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Grin

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Grin

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Grin

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Under-Clocking: Winding the Mileage Recorder back on a vehicle to indicate that it has travelled less miles than is correct, to enhance the value of the vehicle.

Paul...Clip Clocking... Grin

Grin

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Dell Dimension 5000 BTX Tower. Win7 Home Edition, 32 Bit. Intel Pentium 4, dual 2.8 GHz. 2.5GB RAM, nVidia GF 9500GT 1GB. SATA 500GB + 80GB. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Micronet ADSL Modem only. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. FS 2004 + FSX. Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower...Motor Bikes. Gas Cooker... and lots of musical instruments!.... ...!
Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.

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Reply #8 - Dec 8^th, 2012 at 2:36pm

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Fozzer wrote on Dec 8^th, 2012 at 3:56am:

Jetranger wrote on Dec 7^th, 2012 at 9:58pm:

Over-Clocking: and all this time I thought that was when ya had too many clocks around the house to tell ya what time it was - Hummm ???? anybody know what time it is Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Grin

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Grin

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Grin

....!

Under-Clocking: Winding the Mileage Recorder back on a vehicle to indicate that it has travelled less miles than is correct, to enhance the value of the vehicle.

Paul...Clip Clocking... Grin

Grin

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YOU ARE TERRIBLY INCORRECT!
To under-clock you attach a drill to an axle of a car and force it to reverse their by lowering the milage.
To OP if you dont know what over clocking is Just dont worry about it.
Due to a random power surge I lost my overclock. Oh well. 4.5GHZ I will reach you.........one day

http://www.flywestwind.com/

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Reply #9 - Dec 8^th, 2012 at 6:24pm

stephan Offline
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That was the laugh I have needed for 2 days! Good one.AND as an added note...Fosser,sir;I re-read my post before this one,and it comes off as smug and SmartA--ed.Please forgive my choice and arrangement of words.I meant no offense! What I was trying to say was that there's a difference in our worlds.You folks understand what is required to make the FS work at peak efficiency.I simply wrote my own programs.I can tear WINDOWS apart and make it sing and dance.BUT,hardware took a back seat.That is where I felt the need to ask those in the know.Peace?// stephan /Altitude With Attitude! / Cool

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Reply #10 - Dec 8^th, 2012 at 6:28pm

stephan Offline
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OH!!! Real cute there fly boy!!! Just realized what OP was.Good shot! Just be careful how many time you take a shot.I might flip a bug to your system and we'll just see who OP is!

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Reply #11 - Dec 8^th, 2012 at 7:12pm

Fozzer Offline
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Posts: 24861

stephan wrote on Dec 8^th, 2012 at 6:24pm:

That was the laugh I have needed for 2 days! Good one.AND as an added note...Fosser,sir;I re-read my post before this one,and it comes off as smug and SmartA--ed.Please forgive my choice and arrangement of words.I meant no offense! What I was trying to say was that there's a difference in our worlds.You folks understand what is required to make the FS work at peak efficiency.I simply wrote my own programs.I can tear WINDOWS apart and make it sing and dance.BUT,hardware took a back seat.That is where I felt the need to ask those in the know.Peace?// stephan /Altitude With Attitude! / Cool

Cool

Never fear, I have a house full of various computers and their hardware and software, and games machines, dating from the 1970's...8bit, 16bit, and 32bit, from the Apple 2E thru the various 8/16bit home computers, which I still spend may hours programming in BASIC and Machine Code!
I still have our original bedroom company, "Fozzersoft International" for programming Sinclair ZX82 Spectrum Computers....and Commodore C64 and Amiga Computers.

Programming with Bill Gates and Steve Jobs... Grin

Grin

...!

This is what I now use as an Emulator...>>> http://www.spectaculator.com/

Paul Fosbery....Fozzersoft!.... Cool

Cool

...!

Dell Dimension 5000 BTX Tower. Win7 Home Edition, 32 Bit. Intel Pentium 4, dual 2.8 GHz. 2.5GB RAM, nVidia GF 9500GT 1GB. SATA 500GB + 80GB. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Micronet ADSL Modem only. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. FS 2004 + FSX. Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower...Motor Bikes. Gas Cooker... and lots of musical instruments!.... ...!
Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.

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Reply #12 - Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:30pm

manesag Offline
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I feel the need the need
for speed

Gender:
Posts: 226

Fozzer wrote on Dec 8^th, 2012 at 7:12pm:

stephan wrote on Dec 8^th, 2012 at 6:24pm:

That was the laugh I have needed for 2 days! Good one.AND as an added note...Fosser,sir;I re-read my post before this one,and it comes off as smug and SmartA--ed.Please forgive my choice and arrangement of words.I meant no offense! What I was trying to say was that there's a difference in our worlds.You folks understand what is required to make the FS work at peak efficiency.I simply wrote my own programs.I can tear WINDOWS apart and make it sing and dance.BUT,hardware took a back seat.That is where I felt the need to ask those in the know.Peace?// stephan /Altitude With Attitude! / Cool

Cool

Never fear, I have a house full of various computers and their hardware and software, and games machines, dating from the 1970's...8bit, 16bit, and 32bit, from the Apple 2E thru the various 8/16bit home computers, which I still spend may hours programming in BASIC and Machine Code!
I still have our original bedroom company, "Fozzersoft International" for programming Sinclair ZX82 Spectrum Computers....and Commodore C64 and Amiga Computers.

Programming with Bill Gates and Steve Jobs... Grin

Grin

...!

This is what I now use as an Emulator...>>> http://www.spectaculator.com/

Paul Fosbery....Fozzersoft!.... Cool

Cool

...!

So when is Fozzersoft Flight Simulator coming out?

http://www.flywestwind.com/

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Reply #13 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 7:45am

Fozzer Offline
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An elderly FS 2004 addict!
Hereford. England. EGBS.

Posts: 24861

manesag wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:30pm:

Fozzer wrote on Dec 8^th, 2012 at 7:12pm:

stephan wrote on Dec 8^th, 2012 at 6:24pm:

That was the laugh I have needed for 2 days! Good one.AND as an added note...Fosser,sir;I re-read my post before this one,and it comes off as smug and SmartA--ed.Please forgive my choice and arrangement of words.I meant no offense! What I was trying to say was that there's a difference in our worlds.You folks understand what is required to make the FS work at peak efficiency.I simply wrote my own programs.I can tear WINDOWS apart and make it sing and dance.BUT,hardware took a back seat.That is where I felt the need to ask those in the know.Peace?// stephan /Altitude With Attitude! / Cool

Cool

Never fear, I have a house full of various computers and their hardware and software, and games machines, dating from the 1970's...8bit, 16bit, and 32bit, from the Apple 2E thru the various 8/16bit home computers, which I still spend may hours programming in BASIC and Machine Code!
I still have our original bedroom company, "Fozzersoft International" for programming Sinclair ZX82 Spectrum Computers....and Commodore C64 and Amiga Computers.

Programming with Bill Gates and Steve Jobs... Grin

Grin

...!

This is what I now use as an Emulator...>>> http://www.spectaculator.com/

Paul Fosbery....Fozzersoft!.... Cool

Cool

...!

So when is Fozzersoft Flight Simulator coming out?

Its been out since 1984, in 8-bit, glorious 2-colour, programmed in BASIC and Machine Code, running on a 3.5 MHz, Zilog Z80 Central Processor, with 42k of RAM.
The whole World was amazed!... Cheesy

Cheesy

...!

Paul.... Grin

Grin

...!

The Sinclair Spectrum is dead....Long live the Sinclair Spectrum!... Kiss

Kiss

...!

Its my passion!...>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum

Dell Dimension 5000 BTX Tower. Win7 Home Edition, 32 Bit. Intel Pentium 4, dual 2.8 GHz. 2.5GB RAM, nVidia GF 9500GT 1GB. SATA 500GB + 80GB. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Micronet ADSL Modem only. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. FS 2004 + FSX. Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower...Motor Bikes. Gas Cooker... and lots of musical instruments!.... ...!
Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.

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Reply #14 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 4:23pm

manesag Offline
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Fozzer wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 7:45am:

manesag wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:30pm:

Fozzer wrote on Dec 8^th, 2012 at 7:12pm:

stephan wrote on Dec 8^th, 2012 at 6:24pm:

That was the laugh I have needed for 2 days! Good one.AND as an added note...Fosser,sir;I re-read my post before this one,and it comes off as smug and SmartA--ed.Please forgive my choice and arrangement of words.I meant no offense! What I was trying to say was that there's a difference in our worlds.You folks understand what is required to make the FS work at peak efficiency.I simply wrote my own programs.I can tear WINDOWS apart and make it sing and dance.BUT,hardware took a back seat.That is where I felt the need to ask those in the know.Peace?// stephan /Altitude With Attitude! / Cool

Cool

Never fear, I have a house full of various computers and their hardware and software, and games machines, dating from the 1970's...8bit, 16bit, and 32bit, from the Apple 2E thru the various 8/16bit home computers, which I still spend may hours programming in BASIC and Machine Code!
I still have our original bedroom company, "Fozzersoft International" for programming Sinclair ZX82 Spectrum Computers....and Commodore C64 and Amiga Computers.

Programming with Bill Gates and Steve Jobs... Grin

Grin

...!

This is what I now use as an Emulator...>>> http://www.spectaculator.com/

Paul Fosbery....Fozzersoft!.... Cool

Cool

...!

So when is Fozzersoft Flight Simulator coming out?

Its been out since 1984, in 8-bit, glorious 2-colour, programmed in BASIC and Machine Code, running on a 3.5 MHz, Zilog Z80 Central Processor, with 42k of RAM.
The whole World was amazed!... Cheesy

Cheesy

...!

Paul.... Grin

Grin

...!

The Sinclair Spectrum is dead....Long live the Sinclair Spectrum!... Kiss

Kiss

...!

Its my passion!...>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum

I think I found it
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQ...

http://www.flywestwind.com/

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