Simviation Forum - My FS9 has two Problems

Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:27pm

Jean Loup Offline
Colonel
Flight is the Joy of Life
hacienda Armonía, Mor. MX

Gender:
Posts: 44

My copy of FS9, is unlocked from a Microsoft "Software Jukebox" DVD, that was included on a new PC. No problems UNTIL I added my first extra airplane, with an auto-installer: created a new FS9 folder for the aircraft, next to my full FS9 folder. I noticed why quickly: it was named "fllight simulator 9" (YES, with a double L Smiley

). Corrected & learned how to install manually!

BUT two issues bother my flying:

1.- First, the "piper_pa28_180" folder is there as default aircraft, BUT not on the Menu when running the Simulator. Smiley

The pa28 folder has Model, Sound & Textures folders, missing the Panel one. Also has the .CFG & .AIR files as they should be, seems to me (a non-expert).

HOW can I make it available?

2.- Second, I downloaded & installed a beautifull Bf-109F 4 from SU prod. Alles ist Gute & flying fine, excellent paints & details. BUT the very first version on the list, "Oblt. Josef "Pips" Priller, 1./JG 26, France, 1941" is NOT in the Messerschmitt Menu (when running the Simulator): it is in a separate Unspecified Name Smiley

! I tried to edit the Aircraft.CFG file, but to no avail. The info is stored somewhere else, since even if I delete the CFG file, alles is the same when running the Simulator. They fly excellent, by the way: with 25 options!

Where should I configure that Bf-109F to be included in the Messerschmitt Menu?

Also, my HP Pavilion dv6736nr Entertainment Notebook PC has Vista Home Premium 32-bit OS, 2.00 GB RAM, 220 GB drive C (with 111GB free space).
Muchas Gracias, Amigos! Smiley

[img]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F2adPSE-T1E/UPMYUoqWfYI/AAAAAAAABoE/2ulQcrnM0lw/s800/SkyDive%2520Cuautla%2520II.jpg

Back to top

IP Logged

Reply #1 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 6:30pm

Webb Offline
Colonel
Go 'Noles!
Morningwood Golf Resort

Posts: 1068

Hi and Welcome.

The Piper is an AI texture only aircraft not intended for you to fly. If you look through the Aircraft folder you will find a few more like that. You can download packages that supply the files necessary to make them flyable.

I don't use FS9 so I don't want to guess at your second question.

A bad day at golf is better than a good day at work.

Jim

Back to top

IP Logged

Reply #2 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:13pm

Boikat Offline
Colonel
Hello!
NW Loueezianner

Gender:
Posts: 2978

Your first question was answered by Webb. As to the second, there should be a "ui_manufacturer=Messerschmitt" entry for every variation in that folder.

"I reject your reality, and substitute my own" Adam Savage, Mythbusters

Back to top

IP Logged

Reply #3 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 11:09pm

Jean Loup Offline
Colonel
Flight is the Joy of Life
hacienda Armonía, Mor. MX

Gender:
Posts: 44

It is the [fltsim.0] who is UNSPECIFIED. Has the same ui_manufacturer = SkyUnlimited Productions & ui_type = Messerschmitt BF-109F 4 from [fltsim.0] to [fltsim.24]

Aircraft.CFG does not respond to text changes: I can even delete this whole file, all Bf-109F stay as they are. Maybe the .AIR file has to be configured (with what program, I wonder), or there is a cache file I have not found. The SkyUnlimited forum was in maintenance today, so I'll try to contact them tomorrow.

Other aircraft I have added to FS9, respont well to text changes in the aircraft.cfg file. This baffles me!

Thank you!

[img]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F2adPSE-T1E/UPMYUoqWfYI/AAAAAAAABoE/2ulQcrnM0lw/s800/SkyDive%2520Cuautla%2520II.jpg

Back to top

IP Logged

Reply #4 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 9:44am

Boikat Offline
Colonel
Hello!
NW Loueezianner

Gender:
Posts: 2978

It's the .cfg. If you have FS9 installed at the default location (Usually C/program files (x86) ), you need to copy the aircraft.cfg to your desktop, edit the .cfg, then copy it back into the BF-109 folder, and click "yes" to the over write. It's one of M$'s "security nanny" things.

*Note* Didn't notice that you had no problems editing other .cfg files. Odd.

"I reject your reality, and substitute my own" Adam Savage, Mythbusters

Back to top

IP Logged

Reply #5 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 10:06am

Jean Loup Offline
Colonel
Flight is the Joy of Life
hacienda Armonía, Mor. MX

Gender:
Posts: 44

Webb wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 6:30pm:

Hi and Welcome.

The Piper is an AI texture only aircraft not intended for you to fly. If you look through the Aircraft folder you will find a few more like that. You can download packages that supply the files necessary to make them flyable.

I don't use FS9 so I don't want to guess at your second question.

No doubt: I have no manners! Lips Sealed

GRACiAS for your answer, Captain from Florida Smiley

; had no idea that some aircraft are nor meant to fly (poor things, virtuals in virtuality). So, why are they included? Or, where is the rest to make them flyable? Most aircraft I have added to my FS9, Smiley

are Vintage downloaded from this site Smiley

. Including that Bf-109F.

[img]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F2adPSE-T1E/UPMYUoqWfYI/AAAAAAAABoE/2ulQcrnM0lw/s800/SkyDive%2520Cuautla%2520II.jpg

Back to top

IP Logged

Reply #6 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 10:37am

Jean Loup Offline
Colonel
Flight is the Joy of Life
hacienda Armonía, Mor. MX

Gender:
Posts: 44

Boikat wrote on Nov 18^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

It's the .cfg. If you have FS9 installed at the default location (Usually C/program files (x86) ), you need to copy the aircraft.cfg to your desktop, edit the .cfg, then copy it back into the BF-109 folder, and click "yes" to the over write. It's one of M$'s "security nanny" things.

Yes, I am aware of that. But even deleting that .CFG file wont do anything, like the data would be stored somewhere else.

Boikat wrote on Nov 18^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

*Note* Didn't notice that you had no problems editing other .cfg files. Odd.

The SkyUnlimited Forum has been SPAMED, so they are out for quite a while. I E-mailed to them my problem, will report their answer with all possible dispach.

Hasta luego!

[img]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F2adPSE-T1E/UPMYUoqWfYI/AAAAAAAABoE/2ulQcrnM0lw/s800/SkyDive%2520Cuautla%2520II.jpg

Back to top

IP Logged

Reply #7 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 10:48am

Hagar Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica

Posts: 33159

Let's go back to your original questions.

Jean Loup wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:27pm:

BUT two issues bother my flying:

1.- First, the "piper_pa28_180" folder is there as default aircraft, BUT not on the Menu when running the Simulator. Smiley

The pa28 folder has Model, Sound & Textures folders, missing the Panel one. Also has the .CFG & .AIR files as they should be, seems to me (a non-expert).

HOW can I make it available?

As others have pointed out the PA28 is one of the unflyable "AI Only" aircraft included with FS9. These are basic models intended for use as AI Traffic. You will see them as you're flying around & parked at airports. They have no VC or other advanced features of the flyable aircraft & the flight dynamics might not be too realistic. If you really wish to fly it there are updates like this one posted on the major FS sites. http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=Piperpa28_180Updatev14.zip&cate...

Quote:

2.- Second, I downloaded & installed a beautifull Bf-109F 4 from SU prod. Alles ist Gute & flying fine, excellent paints & details. BUT the very first version on the list, "Oblt. Josef "Pips" Priller, 1./JG 26, France, 1941" is NOT in the Messerschmitt Menu (when running the Simulator): it is in a separate Unspecified Name Smiley!

It took me a while to track this one down but I finally found it here. http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=bf109f_fs9%2Fzip&x=2&y=11

I directed the install to a Temp folder to check it out & install it manually in my usual way. As I would expect for an ex-Payware product the auto-installer is configured correctly & should give no problems providing the install path is directed to your FS9 root directory.

I'm not sure what you've done but I had no problems at all with any of the variations. No editing is necessary. "Oblt. Josef "Pips" Priller, 1./JG 26, France, 1941" is listed along with all other variations under SkyUnlimited Productions.

Quote:

I tried to edit the Aircraft.CFG file, but to no avail. The info is stored somewhere else, since even if I delete the CFG file, alles is the same when running the Simulator. They fly excellent, by the way: with 25 options!

Where should I configure that Bf-109F to be included in the Messerschmitt Menu?

If you delete Aircraft.cfg none of the aircraft will work or be listed on the menu. You must have tried editing the wrong file.

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group

Need help? Try Grumpy's Lair

My photo gallery

Back to top

IP Logged

Reply #8 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 6:09pm

Jean Loup Offline
Colonel
Flight is the Joy of Life
hacienda Armonía, Mor. MX

Gender:
Posts: 44

GRACiAS, I downloaded the PA-28 to make it flyable.
Hagar wrote on Nov 18^th, 2012 at 10:48am:

...It took me a while to track this one down but I finally found it here.

I directed the install to a Temp folder to check it out & install it manually in my usual way. As I would expect for an ex-Payware product the auto-installer is configured correctly & should give no problems providing the install path is directed to your FS9 root directory.

I'm not sure what you've done but I had no problems at all with any of the variations. No editing is necessary. "Oblt. Josef "Pips" Priller, 1./JG 26, France, 1941" is listed along with all other variations under SkyUnlimited Productions.

If you delete Aircraft.cfg none of the aircraft will work or be listed on the menu. You must have tried editing the wrong file.

Hello, thanks for your help. I E-mailed SkyUnlimited (their forum is Spamed & Out) and the answer at the end said:

"So it appears the correct aircraft.cfg is not being fixed, or that your changes are not being saved to the file.
Jesse"

The NOT SAVING FiLE bounced around my empty skull (if it contained a brain, I would not be a Skydiver) so I clicked right over my desk FS9 icon, on PROPERTiES: CLiCKED a box SHOW SETTINGS FOR ALL USERS, and there CLiCKED RUN THIS PROGRAM AS AN ADMINISTRATOR. Now, the aircraft.CFG file responds. And my FS9 icon, the DC-3, sports a little Microsoft shield.

I have been using ViSTA (Home Premium) for less than a month, and it drives me crayze sometimes. What I wanted (you can't allways have what you wA-ant...) was the Bf-109F be included in the Messerschmitt Menu (not under SkyUnlimited) along with the Me-108 Taifun. Now it is done.

GRACiAS to all for your patience. I have other stupid questions for another time. HASTA PRONTO!

[img]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F2adPSE-T1E/UPMYUoqWfYI/AAAAAAAABoE/2ulQcrnM0lw/s800/SkyDive%2520Cuautla%2520II.jpg

Back to top

IP Logged

Reply #9 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 10:31am

Jean Loup Offline
Colonel
Flight is the Joy of Life
hacienda Armonía, Mor. MX

Gender:
Posts: 44

Hagar wrote on Nov 18^th, 2012 at 10:48am:

Let's go back to your original questions.

Jean Loup wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:27pm:

BUT two issues bother my flying:

1.- First, the "piper_pa28_180" folder is there as default aircraft, BUT not on the Menu when running the Simulator. Smiley

The pa28 folder has Model, Sound & Textures folders, missing the Panel one. Also has the .CFG & .AIR files as they should be, seems to me (a non-expert).

HOW can I make it available?

As others have pointed out the PA28 is one of the unflyable "AI Only" aircraft included with FS9. These are basic models intended for use as AI Traffic. You will see them as you're flying around & parked at airports. They have no VC or other advanced features of the flyable aircraft & the flight dynamics might not be too realistic. If you really wish to fly it there are updates like this one posted on the major FS sites.

Gracias, now I can fly with the Pa-28. On this arrival with a Mooney, one is parked next to me.

[img]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F2adPSE-T1E/UPMYUoqWfYI/AAAAAAAABoE/2ulQcrnM0lw/s800/SkyDive%2520Cuautla%2520II.jpg

Back to top

IP Logged

Reply #10 - Nov 26^th, 2012 at 3:08am

Robbls Offline
Lieutenant Colonel
I Love Simviation.

Posts: 8

A 747 was halfway across the Atlantic when the captain got on the loud speaker, "Attention, passengers. We have lost one of our engines, but we can certainly reach London with the three we have left. Unfortunately, we will arrive an hour late as a r esult." http://www.mmomesos.com
Shortly thereafter, the passengers heard the captain's voice again, "Guess what, folks. We just lost our third engine, but please be assured we can fly with only one. We will now arrive in London three hours late."

At this point, one passenger became furious. "For Pete's sake," he shouted, "If we lose another engine, we'll be up here all night!" http://www.mmohome.com

Back to top

IP Logged

	Search the archive: