Search the archive:
 YaBB - Yet another Bulletin Board
 
   
 
  Simviation Forum › Current Flight Simulator Series › FS 2004 - A Century of Flight › tail wheel acting odd
(Moderators: Mitch., Fly2e, ozzy72, beaky, Clipper, JBaymore, Bob70, BigTruck)
‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send Topic Print
tail wheel acting odd (Read 750 times)
Nov 5th, 2012 at 7:20pm

wahubna   Offline
Colonel
WMU Bronco
Michigan

Gender: male
 Posts: 1064
 *****
 
Went to take my Wings of Power P-51 up for a spin and this is what happens..from the cockpit view on start up the tail suddenly drops with no inputs of any kind...so I went to the spot view to see what happened and this is what I see...when I try to taxi the tail wheel is most definitely gone so it drags the tail.

Any ideas?

...
 
‎"At that time [1909] the chief engineer was almost always the chief test pilot as well. That had the fortunate result of eliminating poor engineering early in aviation."- Igor Sikorsky
...
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #1 - Nov 6th, 2012 at 12:55am

Webb   Offline
Colonel
Go 'Noles!
Morningwood Golf Resort

Posts: 1068
 *****
 
Please post aircraft.cfg.
 
A bad day at golf is better than a good day at work.

...

Jim
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #2 - Nov 6th, 2012 at 6:44am

Boikat   Offline
Colonel
Hello!
NW Loueezianner

Gender: male
 Posts: 2978
 *****
 
Webb wrote on Nov 6th, 2012 at 12:55am:
Please post aircraft.cfg.


The [contact_points] part...
 
...
"I reject your reality, and substitute my own" Adam Savage, Mythbusters
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #3 - Nov 6th, 2012 at 7:17am

garryrussell   Offline
Colonel
Hello!

Gender: male
 Posts: 677
 *****
 
If contact points were the case then it would be like that on everyones sim??? Undecided

 
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #4 - Nov 6th, 2012 at 8:09am

wahubna   Offline
Colonel
WMU Bronco
Michigan

Gender: male
 Posts: 1064
 *****
 
[contact_points]
static_pitch = 13.85
static_cg_height = 6.52
tailwheel_lock = 1
gear_system_type = 1
max_number_of_points = 18

point.0 = 1, -13.8839, 0, -3.55, 3000, 0, 0.55, 45//180, 0.25, 2, 0.8, 5, 4, 0, 148, 180
point.1 = 1, 1.7, -5.915, -7.1, 6000, 1, 1.125, 0, 0.4, 2.5, 0.8, 7, 10, 2, 148, 180
point.2 = 1, 1.7, 5.915, -7.1, 6000, 2, 1.125, 0, 0.4, 2.5, 0.8, 10, 7, 3, 148, 180
point.3 = 4.000, 0.000, -18.228, -1.292, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.4 = 2.000, 0.000, -18.035, -1.330, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.5 = 4.000, 0.000, 18.032, -1.327, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.6 = 2.000, 0.000, 17.726, -1.369, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.7 = 4.000, -19.199, 0.000, -1.152, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.8 = 2.000, -19.803, 0.000, -1.011, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.9 = 4.000, -4.350, 0.000, -3.827, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.10 = 2.000, -3.417, 0.000, -3.734, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.11 = 2.000, -3.006, 0.000, -3.672, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.12 = 2.000, 10.262, 0.000, -0.676, 1200.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.13 = 4.000, 2.994, 0.000, -2.975, 10000.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.14 = 2.000, 4.048, 0.000, -2.861, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.15 = 2.000, 5.915, 0.000, -2.548, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.16 = 2.000, 7.556, 0.000, -2.181, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.17 = 4.000, 8.990, 0.000, -5.114, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000


If you notice yes I did convert the tail wheel from castoring to steerable....ssshhh don't tell another P-51 flier  Roll Eyes
Just to clarify when I did that conversion I checked it and it worked out fine.
 
‎"At that time [1909] the chief engineer was almost always the chief test pilot as well. That had the fortunate result of eliminating poor engineering early in aviation."- Igor Sikorsky
...
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #5 - Nov 6th, 2012 at 9:22am

garryrussell   Offline
Colonel
Hello!

Gender: male
 Posts: 677
 *****
 
What's the 45//180 about??...a double slash seems odd to me Undecided

To double check, why not put the CFG back to how it shpould be with the free castoring wheel and see if the problrm is still there.
 
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #6 - Nov 6th, 2012 at 9:30am

wahubna   Offline
Colonel
WMU Bronco
Michigan

Gender: male
 Posts: 1064
 *****
 
garryrussell wrote on Nov 6th, 2012 at 9:22am:
What's the 45//180 about??...a double slash seems odd to me Undecided

To double check, why not put the CFG back to how it shpould be with the free castoring wheel and see if the problrm is still there.


I saw it done in a few read-me's and tried it out on several aircraft. It seems to hide the number after '//' from the sim..But it allows you to keep it in there in case you wish to change it back.

I have done this on half a dozen or so aircraft with nose and tail wheels all successfully.
 
‎"At that time [1909] the chief engineer was almost always the chief test pilot as well. That had the fortunate result of eliminating poor engineering early in aviation."- Igor Sikorsky
...
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #7 - Nov 6th, 2012 at 11:50am

dave3cu   Offline
Colonel
Procrastinate now, don't
put it off.
3CU, Northern Wisconsin, USA

Gender: male
 Posts: 3077
 *****
 
Quote:
I saw it done in a few read-me's and tried it out on several aircraft. It seems to hide the number after '//' from the sim..But it allows you to keep it in there in case you wish to change it back.


The double slash ( // ) is called 'commenting' and causes the sim to disregard EVERYTHING after it on that line. In this case it will effect data relating to the 'strut' supporting the tailwheel which may be causing your problem.

If you want to leave a reminder:

Either; place the original value at the end of the line as a comment;

point.0 = 1, -13.8839, 0, -3.55, 3000, 0, 0.55, 45, 0.25, 2, 0.8, 5, 4, 0, 148, 180        //original steer angle 180

Or; 'comment' the original line and add your modified line;

//point.0 = 1, -13.8839, 0, -3.55, 3000, 0, 0.55, 180, 0.25, 2, 0.8, 5, 4, 0, 148, 180 original line
point.0 = 1, -13.8839, 0, -3.55, 3000, 0, 0.55, 45, 0.25, 2, 0.8, 5, 4, 0, 148, 180

Note: to avoid confusion when editing, turn word wrap off so that you don't see false new lines caused by word wrap.

Dave
 
At that time [1909] the chief engineer was almost always the chief test pilot as well. That had the fortunate result of eliminating poor engineering early in aviation.          Igor Sikorsky

I intend to live forever....so far, so good.         Steven Wright

You know....you can just rip up a to-do list.
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #8 - Nov 6th, 2012 at 1:27pm

wahubna   Offline
Colonel
WMU Bronco
Michigan

Gender: male
 Posts: 1064
 *****
 
dave3cu wrote on Nov 6th, 2012 at 11:50am:
Quote:
I saw it done in a few read-me's and tried it out on several aircraft. It seems to hide the number after '//' from the sim..But it allows you to keep it in there in case you wish to change it back.


The double slash ( // ) is called 'commenting' and causes the sim to disregard EVERYTHING after it on that line. In this case it will effect data relating to the 'strut' supporting the tailwheel which may be causing your problem.

If you want to leave a reminder:

Either; place the original value at the end of the line as a comment;

point.0 = 1, -13.8839, 0, -3.55, 3000, 0, 0.55, 45, 0.25, 2, 0.8, 5, 4, 0, 148, 180        //original steer angle 180

Or; 'comment' the original line and add your modified line;

//point.0 = 1, -13.8839, 0, -3.55, 3000, 0, 0.55, 180, 0.25, 2, 0.8, 5, 4, 0, 148, 180 original line
point.0 = 1, -13.8839, 0, -3.55, 3000, 0, 0.55, 45, 0.25, 2, 0.8, 5, 4, 0, 148, 180

Note: to avoid confusion when editing, turn word wrap off so that you don't see false new lines caused by word wrap.

Dave


I will try that out. It was working just fine until I put several dozen aircraft back in the sim. It works well on all my other aircraft..
MS sims are so peculiar are they not?

Some times I think my sim is more moody than my wife  Grin
 
‎"At that time [1909] the chief engineer was almost always the chief test pilot as well. That had the fortunate result of eliminating poor engineering early in aviation."- Igor Sikorsky
...
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #9 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:01pm

BLAZE   Offline
Colonel
BUILT LIKE A MACK TRUCK!
Spring City Pa. United States

Gender: male
 Posts: 212
 *****
 
Nothing can be more moody then a broad.. I mean wife!  Smiley
 
"May the wind always be at your back and the sun upon your face. And may the wings of destiny carry you aloft to dance with the stars"  Cheers George!
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send Topic Print
‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›
  « Home ‹ Board Top of this page

Simviation Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.5 AE!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2010. All Rights Reserved.

Valid RSS Valid XHTML Valid CSS Powered by Perl Source Forge