Simviation Forum - Beech/Rutan Starship Package

Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:47am

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I recently downloaded the FS2004 Beech/Rutan Starship package. All appears well except that has a double trail of smoke coming from the wingtip areas. I tried "I" to cut off, but now luck. Anyone know how to eliminate this irritation?

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Reply #1 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 11:04am

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gwillmot wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

I recently downloaded the FS2004 Beech/Rutan Starship package. All appears well except that has a double trail of smoke coming from the wingtip areas. I tried "I" to cut off, but now luck. Anyone know how to eliminate this irritation?

gwillmot

....SMOKE?.... Shocked

....!

...or Vapour Trails from the wing tips?... Wink

...!

Paul..... Cool

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Reply #2 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 11:09am

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....SMOKE?.... Shocked

....!

...or Vapor Trails from the wing tips?... Wink

...!

Paul..... Cool

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Paul, it was probably intended as vapor trails, but it is coming out as thick smoke, and it is present from takeoff through climb, cruise, descent, and landing. It never cuts off. It really is quite unrealistic.

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Reply #3 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 11:16am

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gwillmot wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 11:09am:

....SMOKE?.... Shocked

....!

...or Vapor Trails from the wing tips?... Wink

...!

Paul..... Cool

...!

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Paul, it was probably intended as vapor trails, but it is coming out as thick smoke, and it is present from takeoff through climb, cruise, descent, and landing. It never cuts off. It really is quite unrealistic.

gwillmot

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I was going to give it a try, downloading, this morning, but it would have taken up to 2 hours to download its 70 MB...
Seems like everyone wanted it!
...so I gave up.. Undecided

...!

I'll try again when its a bit quieter!... Wink

...!

Paul...I like; "Quieter"!... Grin

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Reply #4 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 12:33pm

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I located the original thread where the OP announced the upload of the Starship, and have PM'ed him asking for a fix or workaround. Hopefully he'll come through; I downloaded the package and am itching to try it, sans the belching black smoke that would definitely attract the attention of the FAA, TC or any other Nosy Nate wanting to know the 411...

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Reply #5 - Sep 20^th, 2012 at 9:31pm

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Alas,

The smoke meant fire ....... fire meant burning wings ...... burning wings meant burning airplane. Cry

The "Rock Star" version caught on fire upon landing on my last trip, and is no longer in my hanger.

Adios amigo. We hardly knew ye!

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Reply #6 - Sep 20^th, 2012 at 11:13pm

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gwillmot wrote on Sep 20^th, 2012 at 9:31pm:

Alas,

The smoke meant fire ....... fire meant burning wings ...... burning wings meant burning airplane. Cry

The "Rock Star" version caught on fire upon landing on my last trip, and is no longer in my hanger.

Adios amigo. We hardly knew ye!

You mean, as in the classic CFS 2 "flamer" after a couple well placed rounds in the wing root of a Zeke?
Oooh... maybe I ought to stick with Stoney's version instead, with KM's custom panel... Shocked

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Reply #7 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 2:51am

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I assume we're talking about this file --> http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=starship2000fl.zip&x=20&y=16

I've tried it in FS9 & FSX. It works fine in both with no sign of the smoke you describe.

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Reply #8 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 4:54am

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When I installed the Starship when it was first uploaded to Sim V, the "smoke" trail appeared (only in the spot plane external view).
Running it again today, the trail no longer appears, so I assume the designer may have since modified the Model/File!

Paul.

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Reply #9 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 7:48am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 21^st, 2012 at 4:54am:

When I installed the Starship when it was first uploaded to Sim V, the "smoke" trail appeared (only in the spot plane external view).
Running it again today, the trail no longer appears, so I assume the designer may have since modified the Model/File!

Paul.

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Thank you SO much for the info. I was beginning to think something was really wrong with my system. I, too, downloaded soon after it was posted. I will re-download and see if that pesky air pollution clears up! Thanks again for your input.

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Reply #10 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 8:42am

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Fozzer,

Thanks again for the tip and heads up about the package possibly being modified. I downloaded the Starship package again and the pesky smoke is now gone. Good observation. Wink

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Reply #11 - Sep 22^nd, 2012 at 3:23pm

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Sorry about this. After unzipping this project, and taking it off the shelf, some files went corrupt/missing. My Dad and I have been trying to patch it up. We are a little rusty,so a couple things got missed. Those wingtip vortices were supposed to just kick in under high G turns.

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Reply #12 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 9:52pm

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The Starship is a Mike Stone model, correct? I had it in several colors and liked it a lot. Then bad things happened. It is lost...

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Reply #13 - Oct 7^th, 2012 at 4:09am

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hhomebrewer wrote on Oct 6^th, 2012 at 9:52pm:

The Starship is a Mike Stone model, correct? I had it in several colors and liked it a lot. Then bad things happened. It is lost...

No. This is a new model. http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=starship2000fl.zip&x=20&y=16

None of Mike Stone's aircraft had a VC. All his aircraft can be downloaded here --> http://www.gjsmith.net/Mike-Stone/index.htm

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