Simviation Forum - Airliners vs GA vs Vintage

Reply #15 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 7:29pm

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For me it's Vintage all the way. I can't stand flying Tubes for more than an hour.

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Reply #16 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:54pm

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wahubna wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:02pm:

scatterbrain kid
You have a nice hanger! Really good variety and you know what they say about variety right?
Best way to make the wife jealous Grin

My wife has come to terms with my 'affair' with aircraft...she has figured it out: if you cant beat 'em, join 'em Wink

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Okay stupid jokes are out of my system Roll Eyes

I nearly got married myself a couple of times in the past but came to my senses just in time and managed to talk my way out. Hey I see you're from Michigan, my late mother used to date a USAF guy called 'Chuck' from Crystal Falls MI in World War 2, she lived in Leicester (England) and he and his buddies used to hit town from the nearby Bruntingthorpe air base, walking around throwing salutes, wisecracks and flashing smiles at the dames..

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PS- I see vintage stuff is doing quite well in the poll, I like it because it's a real challenge to fly around with just a map, compass, eyeballs and no navaids.
It's a piece o' cake in good weather-
(freeware MAC Flamingo, box FSX scenery)

But not so easy when the weather clamps down-

"Are we lost captain?"
"No sir, we're somewhere in Canada, now please resume your seat"-

PLEASE STOP LINKING IMAGES, IT SLOWS THE FORUMS DOWN FOR OTHER USERS!!!!

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Reply #17 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:19am

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As a kid my first helicopter flight was in a Hughes 300, my first airplane ride was in an old Aronca.

My first (only) solo flight was in a restored Stearman.

I grew up with the old airplanes and they will always have a place in my heart.

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Reply #18 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:45am

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I'm surprised more didn't choose airliners as it seems most aircraft addons seem to be airliners. I chose other, however I probably should have said vintage. I have the Golden Wings 3 version of FS9 and really enjoy it. I like the low, slow and usually short flights. A close second behind vintage is GA. Once in awhile a fast mover or modern airliner but I keep the flights short, usually less than 200 mi.

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Reply #19 - Jun 14^th, 2012 at 10:06am

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I am a vintage planes lover.

Though must admit my joining the ranks has a perhaps curious reason.

Back in... I think it was 2007? Can't remember precisely... the fire that kept me interested in flight simulation began to wane. By the following year I was in full crisis mode and considering abandoning this hobby I was interested in ever since 1992...

I felt my heart breaking, but really could not get myself to rise up to bring those big, kerosene smelling tubes of metal high in the skies... it was just too...

Boring.

That was it. It was boring. And the boring part had begun with the arrival on the scene of airplanes that had all the bells and whistles of the Real Thing. I was having the same kind of fun staying behind the AP someone else in a factory may have by punching the buttons of a numerical control machine. I had became a process controller and it was getting even duller than looking at paint drying. Sad

Then by absolute chance I passed on the Calclassics website and decided to give a try to one of their old and low fliers...

MY. God. In. Heaven.

I had a backfire the size of a full power Tzar Bomba. Those old but engaging glories of the aviation ante-1958 managed to give me back the interest that had been waning.

All the old prop planes began attracting my interest above the now grounded kerosene stoves, from the very Wright Flier to the end of the era of prop planes, from low and low single engined contraptions to the Lockheed Starliner.

Cannot really say what really gets under my skin about that old kind of flying... maybe it was the adventurous environment... the awareness they had of being special in a particular way, to be able to make those machines fly... the struggle they underwent to find their way in absolute VFR dead reckoning and crappy weather... the having to make the navigational point using the bubble sextant and calculate your longitude keeping in mind speed and winds, knowing that the fuel was not endless...

I agree. Those people at the time were not having the time of their lives doing what I wrote, but rather sweated bullets in worry and even fear... that's why they were and still are worthy of admiration... and while modern pilots are surely themselves worthy of admiration, especially when things get tough (as they still can nowadays)... it's just not the same thing anymore.

Maybe I am attracted to that... maybe it's that old style mythical aura that bewitches me... not even I can say for sure.

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Reply #20 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 11:05pm

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For the past two years I've been in an FS coma. I'm slowly coming back.

I've always found myself attracted to the "vintage" aircraft. (Note, for me "vintage" is generally pre-1945; anything with a nose wheel is "modern")

From a modelling point of view, the vintage aircraft are "easier" to model -

a: no flaps to worry about
b: the gears stay put.
c: little to no worrying about glass transparency. .. (open cockpits, you know).
d: no worrying about fancy "glass gauges" gee-pee-esses" or other funny sounding "displays"

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Reply #21 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:33am

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It was a toss-up between Vintage and GA. I love flying GA, mainly because that is what I will be flying in real life, but the Vintage aircraft are so cool, DC-3s, P-51, almost all of them are great. I like flying military as well, but not as much as I do the Carenado Baron and Bonanza. At first I was really into commercial jet flying, but that got old.

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Reply #22 - Jun 30^th, 2012 at 8:23am

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VBonanza wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:33am:

It was a toss-up between Vintage and GA. I love flying GA, mainly because that is what I will be flying in real life, but the Vintage aircraft are so cool, DC-3s, P-51, almost all of them are great. I like flying military as well, but not as much as I do the Carenado Baron and Bonanza. At first I was really into commercial jet flying, but that got old.

Commercial flying got old for me with in 30seconds of takeoff Grin

By the way, give crop-dusting a try in the sim, wonderful fun and very challenging to do it right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFZ8k0WfIB4

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Reply #23 - Jun 30^th, 2012 at 11:42am

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wahubna wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 8:23am:

Commercial flying got old for me with in 30seconds of takeoff Grin

By the way, give crop-dusting a try in the sim, wonderful fun and very challenging to do it right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFZ8k0WfIB4

But - commercial flying in a Swissair Curtiss T-32. Zurich to Geneva, please.... it can't get any better than that! (Well, Imperial Airways, Croydon to Orly in an HP43....)

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Reply #24 - Jun 30^th, 2012 at 2:23pm

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Try putting a fully loaded 747 into Kai Tak on full realism! Not boring. Wink

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Reply #25 - Jun 30^th, 2012 at 6:36pm

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JBaymore wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

Try putting a fully loaded 747 into Kai Tak on full realism! Not boring. Wink

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True, but doing things like that with airliners is pretty limited simply because the planes are not made for the same type of flying GA aircraft do. Hence my problem

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Reply #26 - Jun 30^th, 2012 at 6:55pm

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I must say that I am quite surprised at the Poll result!
Half as many GA as Commercial Air-Liners, where GA would have been the more practical choice for every-day Aviators!

...and quite surprising, the number of Vintage enthusiasts!

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Reply #27 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 4:38am

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Fozzer wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 6:55pm:

I must say that I am quite surprised at the Poll result!
Half as many GA as Commercial Air-Liners, where GA would have been the more practical choice for every-day Aviators!

...and quite surprising, the number of Vintage enthusiasts!

Paul... Cool

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GA voters might be going for vintage instead.

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Reply #28 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 7:30am

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JBaymore wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

Try putting a fully loaded 747 into Kai Tak on full realism! Not boring. Wink

No. Not boring. Hard. Very hard. Especially if the 747 in object has good dynamics. I do admit it.

Yet with said 747, like any other liner, it's about a half a hour of intense preparations to start it up and make it become airborne, and a more or less similar quantity of time to make it land and stop wherever... interspersed with the boredom of the cruise flight. A boredom capable of generating its own gravity field, that with its increasing gets so strong it is not rare at all that everything ends up collapsing into a black hole of discontent.

Small planes, flying VFR, old propliners vintage flight with old time techniques... all of this keeps the attention awake, the mind sharp on what is happening and the boredom away. At least for me. Wink

There is no such a thing as overkill. Only unworthy targets.

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Reply #29 - Aug 13^th, 2012 at 5:49pm

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The terrifying thought of ..."Hours of Boredom", on an Inter-Continental flight cruise in a Jumbo Passenger Jet, always gets me firmly welded to small(ish) GA Aircraft, excitedly hopping from one local Airfield/Airport to another, with a big "thumbs-up", and a grin, from any passengers...

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Not enough time to get Bored!

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