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Aug 25
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, 2011 at 10:31am
alrot
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I been thinking to resume the Citation Sovereign
But
I really need to know if there is a payware release already, I watched this website where one of the main in FSX seems to be one
http://realenvironmentxtreme.com/
I much rather to start another think like a Gulftream V than make a model which is already other available with VC
I know for a fact that there is a freeware one but it doesn't have VC and was exported using FS9-SDK
Its very beautiful but I think most of the FSX and FS9 people rather use the VC
Please let me know if there is another model ..thanks
Alex
Venezuela
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Aug 25
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There was one by simscape but they pulled it. But haven't seen any but if I do I will inform you. But I would love to see one.
with a vc
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I would warn you if you are planning to do a Gulfstream model, the company will eventually send you a letter from their attorney telling you to stop work. They have almost everytime someone has posted screenshots online of a work in progress. Gulfstream is very protective of their image.
Dave
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Aug 25
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Then I guess Alex,
Sovereign It is
Renč
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Arguing with a pilot is like wrestling with a pig in the mud, after a while you begin to think the pig likes it.
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Aug 26
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DaveSims wrote
on Aug 25
th
, 2011 at 5:31pm:
I would warn you if you are planning to do a Gulfstream model, the company will eventually send you a letter from their attorney telling you to stop work. They have almost everytime someone has posted screenshots online of a work in progress. Gulfstream is very protective of their image.
yeah I heard about it
, but !!! I mean not gulfstream ,(Sorry II misspelled)
I said "GulfXtreme 5 a model made by my imagination
that its very similar ,but I swear I would never brake the copyrights of this company
Venezuela
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Aug 26
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alrot wrote
on Aug 26
th
, 2011 at 9:29am:
DaveSims wrote
on Aug 25
th
, 2011 at 5:31pm:
I would warn you if you are planning to do a Gulfstream model, the company will eventually send you a letter from their attorney telling you to stop work. They have almost everytime someone has posted screenshots online of a work in progress. Gulfstream is very protective of their image.
yeah I heard about it
, but !!! I mean not gulfstream ,(Sorry II misspelled)
I said "GulfXtreme 5 a model made by my imagination
that its very similar ,but I swear I would never brake the copyrights of this company
I think you have to make up a new name that has no relevance to Gulfstream cause companies/Celebrities have an annoying habit of suing for names that sound a little like theirs
.
Renč
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Sep 3
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There most definitely isn't a payware Sovereign. On the link you showed that's an Embraer Legacy
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Sep 3
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Jayhawk Jake wrote
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, 2011 at 9:24am:
There most definitely isn't a payware Sovereign. On the link you showed that's an Embraer Legacy
Oh that's good
(we can't denied it looks a lot )
thanks Jake for the heads up
Venezuela
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Sep 3
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I would love to see the Soverign... then maybe a Beech jet 400?
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Sep 3
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DaveSims wrote
on Aug 25
th
, 2011 at 5:31pm:
I would warn you if you are planning to do a Gulfstream model, the company will eventually send you a letter from their attorney telling you to stop work. They have almost everytime someone has posted screenshots online of a work in progress. Gulfstream is very protective of their image.
Why does it matter if there is a payware one? There are lots of version of many aircraft.
& what can they do about it? Not much if we don't back down because no money is being made in freeware
We already have many Gulfstreams in FS. Never heard a problem after years and many 10's 1000's downloads.
It's just lawyers trying to push non existent muscle (from their metaphorical 4 inch thick arms). We live in a different age. They tried it in the past when flightsim.com/peter tishma tried to stop freeware and get a license for all real world airlines in FS. They failed because the world of FS stood up (& then forgot) . They will always fail in the world of FS if we stand against them. They know that, but rely on feeble, 1st port of call characters giving in. So just don't give in. Ignore!
Go ahead Alex. Guaranteed it will be a hit. & If you get a lawyers letter (which you won't) - sent it my way.. or ... MUCH better .... simply tell them to come & see you in Venezuela - tell them how to get a taxi from the airport ....
Think Global. It's the world we live in.
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Sep 3
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pete wrote
on Sep 3
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, 2011 at 5:44pm:
DaveSims wrote
on Aug 25
th
, 2011 at 5:31pm:
I would warn you if you are planning to do a Gulfstream model, the company will eventually send you a letter from their attorney telling you to stop work. They have almost everytime someone has posted screenshots online of a work in progress. Gulfstream is very protective of their image.
Why does it matter if there is a payware one? There are lots of version of many aircraft.
& what can they do about it? Not much if we don't back down because no money is being made in freeware
We already have many Gulfstreams in FS. Never heard a problem after years and many 10's 1000's downloads.
It's just lawyers trying to push non existent muscle (from their metaphorical 4 inch thick arms). We live in a different age. They tried it in the past when flightsim.com/peter tishma tried to stop freeware and get a license for all real world airlines in FS. They failed because the world of FS stood up (& then forgot) . They will always fail in the world of FS if we stand against them. They know that, but rely on feeble, 1st port of call characters giving in. So just don't give in. Ignore!
Go ahead Alex. Guaranteed it will be a hit. & If you get a lawyers letter (which you won't) - sent it my way.. or ... MUCH better .... simply tell them to come & see you in Venezuela - tell them how to get a taxi from the airport ....
That was an inspiring speech Pete! And I agree, forget Gulfstream, if you want to make it, then make it. But finish the Sovereign first please, I want it. If you need information, I can see what I can do for you
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Sep 4
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pete wrote
on Sep 3
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DaveSims wrote
on Aug 25
th
, 2011 at 5:31pm:
I would warn you if you are planning to do a Gulfstream model, the company will eventually send you a letter from their attorney telling you to stop work. They have almost everytime someone has posted screenshots online of a work in progress. Gulfstream is very protective of their image.
Why does it matter if there is a payware one? There are lots of version of many aircraft.
& what can they do about it? Not much if we don't back down because no money is being made in freeware
We already have many Gulfstreams in FS. Never heard a problem after years and many 10's 1000's downloads.
It's just lawyers trying to push non existent muscle (from their metaphorical 4 inch thick arms). We live in a different age. They tried it in the past when flightsim.com/peter tishma tried to stop freeware and get a license for all real world airlines in FS. They failed because the world of FS stood up (& then forgot) . They will always fail in the world of FS if we stand against them. They know that, but rely on feeble, 1st port of call characters giving in. So just don't give in. Ignore!
Go ahead Alex. Guaranteed it will be a hit. & If you get a lawyers letter (which you won't) - sent it my way.. or ... MUCH better .... simply tell them to come & see you in Venezuela - tell them how to get a taxi from the airport ....
I agree!
As far as I can tell, modelling one of their aircraft falls under fair use laws.
It is an artist's rendition, and Gulfstream has no legal basis for preventing the flight sim community from producing freeware models of their aircraft.
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Sep 4
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I'd like to see a Sovereign...flying a Gulfstream in FS would be no fun because that would be supporting the sourness of the company.
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Sep 4
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BrandonF wrote
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I'd like to see a Sovereign...flying a Gulfstream in FS would be no fun because that would be supporting the sourness of the company.
Letting GS's lawyers strong-arm you would support the company's sourness more IMO.
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Sep 30
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Alejandro;
Ya-da, ya-da, ya-da with Gulfstream !!
You've already done the Citation, although not the S model.
Gulfstream can't prove any harm by an artist producing what can be represented as art.
Let them rattle their sabre. Buy them a drink if they come to Venezuela.
Do the Gulf. So very few are available...
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Sep 30
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PS
The aircraft's visual image is in the 'public domain'.
Let's all go to the airport, photograph a Gulfstream, frame it and hang it on the wall.
The Gulf gestapo can't come get the pic, now can they...
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Oct 5
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I'm sorry but I have to say that telling one of the TOP freeware designers to violate an international copyright law is sheer ignorance. Alexandro is a great modeler and I can't imagine him violating a law just because "he can" or because he lives in another country. Law is law no matter where you live and this is an international copyright law. Which means that no matter WHERE you are in the world, if you were to copy their design , it would be a violation of the law.
Alexandro, go with the Sovereign, I have the 500 and I love it. I would love to see it completed. You always make freeware products as good as payware, yet you are kind enough to make them available for all of us to enjoy. Thank you and you have my appreciation. Kind regards, Jeremy
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as someone said its just a 'picture'
it is freeware so it isn't a product.
from what i understand about copyright they can't do anything about a non-product.
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Celebrities have an annoying habit of suing for names that sound a little like theirs
oh god can that spoiled justin bieber(totaly not a fan of him)sew me for having the same initials?
my initials are JB aswell....
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Oct 8
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Ok , something its Holding me back ,
What's going to be " MS Flight"
,I would n'ˇt want to spend a lot of work, time wasted and so hardworking in general and then when the New Simulator its released my new model would become garbage (Funny I said the same thing when FSX came out )in this same area of Simv Forums Once
put yourself in my position ,from my point of view ,I still remember to doubt about FSX and when it came out, FS9 models Didn't work at all in the beginning ,was about a year(Maybe less) latter when FSX-SP1 came out that FS9 actually made FS9 models to run in it .
and when that Happened I already learned to use FSX-SDK
rumors saids that "Flight" will have a different code and won't even accept previous version of MS Flight Simulator Series and worse ,seems that MS will be the one which will compile our models and decide which one or which not ,Besides It seems to be Gmax and 3d max will be useless ,I have no idea how Maya works,I can't even afford this software
Some of you will say
It doesn't matter FSX will last forever
that wasn't the case of FS9 when FSX came out ,Many Hold on FS9 game but the majority jump into FSX ,I remember (Including myself) with all its issues FSX was astonishing and couldn't never be compared with the old FS9 graphics ,
and as far I being seeing "Flight" has and amazing graphics I can tell by looking the Photos in "Flight" MS site
Lets see and Hope for the good will Microsoft , I'm in their hands (at least my FS life is)
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Oct 8
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alrot wrote
on Oct 8
th
, 2011 at 1:32pm:
Ok , something its Holding me back ,
What's going to be " MS Flight"
,I would n'ˇt want to spend a lot of work, time wasted and so hardworking in general and then when the New Simulator its released my new model would become garbage (Funny I said the same thing when FSX came out )in this same area of Simv Forums Once
put yourself in my position ,from my point of view ,I still remember to doubt about FSX and when it came out, FS9 models Didn't work at all in the beginning ,was about a year(Maybe less) latter when FSX-SP1 came out that FS9 actually made FS9 models to run in it .
and when that Happened I already learned to use FSX-SDK
rumors saids that "Flight" will have a different code and won't even accept previous version of MS Flight Simulator Series and worse ,seems that MS will be the one which will compile our models and decide which one or which not ,Besides It seems to be Gmax and 3d max will be useless ,I have no idea how Maya works,I can't even afford this software
Some of you will say
It doesn't matter FSX will last forever
that wasn't the case of FS9 when FSX came out ,Many Hold on FS9 game but the majority jump into FSX ,I remember (Including myself) with all its issues FSX was astonishing and couldn't never be compared with the old FS9 graphics ,
and as far I being seeing "Flight" has and amazing graphics I can tell by looking the Photos in "Flight" MS site
Lets see and Hope for the good will Microsoft , I'm in their hands (at least my FS life is)
Your Models will never be garbage
. They'll be like Pac man. Not graphically or systematically great, But they'll sure be fun to fly in 20 years
And Jetprop, I didn't know Justin Bieber was a flight simmer
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Arguing with a pilot is like wrestling with a pig in the mud, after a while you begin to think the pig likes it.
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Oct 8
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well i did imagin the target was him in the flour power mision but...
i am just imagining a'release your anger'scenery addon....
attempt at being funny.
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