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Apr 19th, 2011 at 12:27pm

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Anyone know anything about Fozzer?......apparently his last post was back in November.....his wit and charm is noticeably absent.
 
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Reply #1 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 2:48pm

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Welcome back from your coma Roll Eyes Grin
 

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Reply #2 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 4:47pm

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I sent you a PM.  Wink

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Reply #3 - Apr 22nd, 2011 at 3:31pm

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OK....Now I'm totally confused. What has happened to Fozz?

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Reply #4 - Apr 22nd, 2011 at 4:32pm

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He was banned for being an old school, 1950's racist. Pushed the rules to the limit for years and in the end his self admitted bigotry showed him the way to the door.

Mods, including Shane, and others on the forums, were calling for his banning for years.

While he was here he put a LOT of people off staying here. Someone even made a video about him ....  Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #5 - Apr 22nd, 2011 at 10:50pm

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You might as well add this to the FAQ Pete.  Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #6 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 3:36pm

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pete wrote on Apr 22nd, 2011 at 4:32pm:
He was banned for being an old school, 1950's racist. Pushed the rules to the limit for years and in the end his self admitted bigotry showed him the way to the door.

Mods, including Shane, and others on the forums, were calling for his banning for years.

While he was here he put a LOT of people off staying here. Someone even made a video about him ....  Roll Eyes


Excuse me?
 

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Reply #7 - Apr 25th, 2011 at 11:11pm

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Yeah, that "ApplePie" guy on their forum is pretty racist isn't he. Lips Sealed
 

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Reply #8 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 6:28am

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Steve M wrote on Apr 25th, 2011 at 8:36pm:
CrashII wrote on Apr 24th, 2011 at 3:36pm:
pete wrote on Apr 22nd, 2011 at 4:32pm:
He was banned for being an old school, 1950's racist. Pushed the rules to the limit for years and in the end his self admitted bigotry showed him the way to the door.

Mods, including Shane, and others on the forums, were calling for his banning for years.

While he was here he put a LOT of people off staying here. Someone even made a video about him ....  Roll Eyes


Excuse me?



The most bigoted, atheist and prejudice person  in your new forums, isn't Paul.. No offence FSNerd.



This is one that I don't get?  Tongue
 

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Reply #9 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 9:50am

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pete wrote on Apr 22nd, 2011 at 4:32pm:
While he was here he put a LOT of people off staying here. Someone even made a video about him ....  Roll Eyes


Having just watched that video, I don't see what the guy was complaining about. Foz made a comment I myself kind of agree with, as do many other people in the world Wink

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Reply #10 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 11:16am

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You don't want to go by that video to understand why Fozzer was banned... it was, in fact, an unusually diplomatic moment for him.
I don't quite get that video rant, myself... it reminds me of the other one I've seen... Roll Eyes

anyway, Fozzer was banned for responding to the few simple, sensible rules here regarding hot-button topics as if they were unreasonable and oppressive: by thumbing his nose at Pete over and over, despite calm and reasoned arguments and gentle reminders. It escalated, with inevitable results.

Pete and all the mods know why F. was popular here- he was funny and helpful, gregarious and very active in all forums for a very long time, and most importantly, he was passionate about sim flight. I think I speak for all the mods, and many users, when I say that sometimes he is missed. Nobody else had a Fozzer, and he often added a certain charm to the forums here.

But there are rules here, rules designed to keep SimV from turning into yet another wall for trolls to pee on, and Foz refused to respect that.


He's entitled, just as he's entitled to his opinions about people or countries or flightsim add-ons. But Pete is entitled to ban any user who threatens to undermine all that he's built here, whether it be Fozzer or any of the others who've "forgotten where they are", created anger and discord over stuff that has nothing to do with the purpose of the site, then refused to apologize or relent. It can't be tolerated, because it drives people away. and the bottom line is that it's Pete's site, and he doesn't want that "tone" here. I'm still here because I agree with that.

If anyone can't handle that, they can go off to some "rogue" flight sim site, where you can say what you want about anything or anyone.

...until that site, too, is forced to impose some set of rules of decorum and order... then where will you go?  Roll Eyes  Grin
 

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Reply #11 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 2:39pm

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Remember there are people with prejudice, then there is me. I'm totally fair minded... I hate EVERYONE Grin Grin Grin Is it any wonder I spent 9 years in teaching?
 

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Reply #12 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 2:45pm

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Fozzer had many positives going for him.  When he was "good"... it was a pleaure to have him around.  It is for that reason that he even lasted as long as he did here. 

Because the negatives he exhibited were very negative to the goals of the site, and most importantly, he refused to comply with requests to control those aspects.

It is actually very simple and easy to understand. 

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Reply #13 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 3:02pm

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@SteveM: No offence taken. Since you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

@Beaky: Yes, you can call it a 'rogue' website. Doesn't mean there are no rules. Yes, there is a more relaxed freedom of speech overthere. Yes, you are encouraged to discuss anything. But, within limits. Go too far and you are also banned. Homebbrewer is the living example of that. He was the first to be banned and hopefully the last.

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Reply #14 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 3:24pm

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JBaymore wrote on Apr 26th, 2011 at 2:45pm:
Fozzer had many positives going for him.  When he was "good"... it was a pleaure to have him around.  It is for that reason that he even lasted as long as he did here.


I think perhaps this puts the situation in more perspective for me as clearly Fozzer had a "Dark Side" which I never saw. My experiences with him were always good and I for one will miss his sence of humour and wish him well wherever he's hanging out.

Hey ho. Wink
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