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Reply #135 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 3:07pm

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f-35simpilot wrote on Sep 23rd, 2010 at 1:18pm:
they now have a general e-mail address posted for suggestions, I already sent a suggestion but would appreciate you all to second my thought.



military AI (all able to include)
RARE AI that you have to be lucky to come across (ex: AN-225, snowbirds, thunderbirds, lancaster and other vintage aircraft, red arrows, avro vulcan, etc.)



I saw a "Feedback" e-mail link, but nothing that readily translates to "Suggestions".

But, other than that:

Patchz:  "Silverlight" is just a media player, and painless.  I did un-check the "automatic update" option during the install since they have a habit od popping up when you're in the middle of something else.  Nothing is more annoying than having an "update nag" minimize or otherwise interupt something else, like shooting a carrier landing.

After reading through the entire thread, I have to go with Fr. Bill's post, and just keep a level head, and wait and see. The folks at MS are not complete idiots (Window Millenium aside), so I'm optimistic, even to the point that I'm not too concerned about having to have to worry about getting a new, high end computer.

I do have reservations about the "unknowns", such as how they plan on handling add-ons.  Mention was made along the lines of add-on being submitted to MS, and they would add them into their MSFlight database, if they approve of the add-on.  But, after thinking about it, why?  The only aircraft they would really have to carry on their servers are AI.  To be sure, they will likely have some MSFlight aircraft (I'm pretty sure you'll have to either buy the software at the local Wally World, Best Buy, or other software outlet) or buy the DL directly from MS, and have native MSFlight aircraft, but they will most likely still be stored on your PC. 

I think, basically, you're going to be flying in the virtual world that MS Live will provide.  You're just "projected" into that world, either solo, or "groups" (just you and a couple of chums, knocking around the sky), or "Open" (With every Tom, Dick and Harry that's also running in an "Open" mode)

Much of the add-on discussion has been mostly about aircraft, which, if stored on your local drive, is no problem, but what about *scenery*?  That could get sticky.

At any rate, when MSFlight is released (Is it mid 2011?), that still does not mean nails in the coffin of FS9, FSX, or any earlier versions that people still fly.  Besides, if MSFlight Flops, then MS may do a re-think, and release an FSXI in a couple of years. Tongue

I'm just musing since I work mids, and should be in bed right now.  Sounds like a damn good idea! Smiley
 

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Reply #136 - Sep 24th, 2010 at 3:47pm

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just please e-mail them with my idea... l would love to fly with a formation of f-15s


thanks in advance
 

Carriers would be so mush easier to land on if they would just stop turning!!!
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Reply #137 - Sep 24th, 2010 at 6:21pm

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I could have sworn that someone said it was too early to have a dedicated "Flight'  forum until at least a beta  Wink

I'm glad it's  been implmented.  Smiley
Thanks. Smiley
 
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Reply #138 - Sep 24th, 2010 at 6:41pm

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Yeah, we need the forum to discuss it, even though it's not in beta yet.
 
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Reply #139 - Sep 24th, 2010 at 7:03pm

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Keep It Simple wrote on Sep 24th, 2010 at 6:21pm:
I could have sworn that someone said it was too early to have a dedicated "Flight'  forum until at least a beta  Wink

I'm glad it's  been implmented.  Smiley
Thanks. Smiley


At least now there is a dedicated website with some information,  more than just a 15 second rendering of an airplane flying that will likely look nothing like the new program.
 
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Reply #140 - Sep 24th, 2010 at 7:10pm

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DaveSims wrote on Sep 24th, 2010 at 7:03pm:
Keep It Simple wrote on Sep 24th, 2010 at 6:21pm:
I could have sworn that someone said it was too early to have a dedicated "Flight'  forum until at least a beta  Wink

I'm glad it's  been implmented.  Smiley
Thanks. Smiley


At least now there is a dedicated website with some information,  more than just a 15 second rendering of an airplane flying that will likely look nothing like the new program.


You never know what the sim will look like. A little early to say that.  Wink
 
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Reply #141 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 6:34am

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I don't mean to get drawn into any debate, but just to put my two cents in: I think it would be a big mistake if this sim is an online-only kind of thing. I'm not saying that just because I'm stuck with a slow connection either, believe me I would change it if I could.
 

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Reply #142 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 9:07am

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TacitBlue wrote on Sep 25th, 2010 at 6:34am:
I don't mean to get drawn into any debate, but just to put my two cents in: I think it would be a big mistake if this sim is an online-only kind of thing. I'm not saying that just because I'm stuck with a slow connection either, believe me I would change it if I could.

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Reply #143 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 11:46am

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patchz wrote on Sep 25th, 2010 at 9:07am:
TacitBlue wrote on Sep 25th, 2010 at 6:34am:
I don't mean to get drawn into any debate, but just to put my two cents in: I think it would be a big mistake if this sim is an online-only kind of thing. I'm not saying that just because I'm stuck with a slow connection either, believe me I would change it if I could.

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Reply #144 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 11:56am

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If it comes Please beautiful and smarter people on the earth Please, protect designer's work! (if there will be a future for FS design)

Gmax---->Mdl---->3ds---->gmax again
NO!


Gmax----->Mdl
  like in the old fs9-FS2004 makemdl9 compilation

many well known designers prefers to wait the 45 minutes that takes to decompile using the fs9 makemdl and use this old format and still are using it for FSX

but its so easy to steal their work ,this to me was the worse mistake and there is a program just to do ONLY ,and if it wasn't unfair enough you can reverse the dds or bmp DTX 5 to 24/32 bitmaps and see and reinsert them in 3d max or gmax ALL in a single program.
  this disencourage every one to do anything in this format
try to fix this please
   
 

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Reply #145 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 12:33pm

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If I understood correctly, they are going to incorporate Maya as their 3D modeling application.  How that impacts GMax or other 3D modeled add-ons is beyond me.  I think that's also one of the other questions that is hanging in the wind:  Will current (FS9 and FSX) add-ons be usable in MS Flight?
 

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Reply #146 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 12:41pm

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Boikat wrote on Sep 25th, 2010 at 12:33pm:
If I understood correctly, they are going to incorporate Maya as their 3D modeling application.  How that impacts GMax or other 3D modeled add-ons is beyond me.  I think that's also one of the other questions that is hanging in the wind:  Will current (FS9 and FSX) add-ons be usable in MS Flight?


That would be  the end, at least for me of what I do , Maya? I don't know how to work in Maya , I won't buy maya

I hope they Learn to LISTEN the customers ,and if Old models fs9 and FSX won't work in this "Flight" bye bye MSFS   Sad,

I really had a bad feelings ,I would better start to see Xplane
 

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Reply #147 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 12:45pm

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The online aspect (to run Flight) is most lkely only for mutiplayer that wiil be a big aspect of it.

Also, it goes withou saying that there will be an anti pirating aspect of Flight that will involve being connected to the net at least periodically.

I seriously doubt that you will need to be connected to the net  while you are actually running Flight in single player.
I believe MS is smarter than that.

As far as backwards compatability, perhaps it's time to move on to new code etc for the sake of the long term survival of FS
We can all run FSX in addition to Flight as Flight matures a bit.
Sometimes. we all have to know when to let go of things.   

Let's all wait for real facts before we panic. Smiley
      
 
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Reply #148 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 1:11pm

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Yeah ,I?m agree but these forum are being watch by them , look at it this

From every 10 airplanes available as a freeware 9 and a half are made using FS9-SDK because as I said FSX-SDK its vulnerable , and It did have many problems .

  If they DEAR to Jump in a new way of 3d model ,its a suicide ,or at least It will be more a game than a simulator .

I'm still surprise by the amount of realism hidden inside FSX ,there so much realism that this game came before were video card  and CPU ,were able to run this game, TWO SPs were release the same year of its release a clear sign that something didn't go well, and I didn't never bought that ACES team were fired just economical adjustment,they were fire because that program have too many issues ..

is today when some of us can see what is the FSX potential, because the hardware able to run this game just began to came out last year

   the same goes with VISTA, They haven't learn the lesson?

I hope this is just panic and lets wait and see ,but due to my personal experience in MSFS and in the Whole MS (Millenium/VISTA/ETC)
I don't see a nice future in this,indeed they give a surprises but not the kind the ones it makes you smile
 

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Reply #149 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 1:31pm

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alrot wrote on Sep 25th, 2010 at 12:41pm:
Boikat wrote on Sep 25th, 2010 at 12:33pm:
If I understood correctly, they are going to incorporate Maya as their 3D modeling application.  How that impacts GMax or other 3D modeled add-ons is beyond me.  I think that's also one of the other questions that is hanging in the wind:  Will current (FS9 and FSX) add-ons be usable in MS Flight?


That would be  the end, at least for me of what I do , Maya? I don't know how to work in Maya , I won't buy maya

I hope they Learn to LISTEN the customers ,and if Old models fs9 and FSX won't work in this "Flight" bye bye MSFS   Sad,

I really had a bad feelings ,I would better start to see Xplane



The important thing to remember, again, is that MS Flight is not the end of FS9 or FSX. 

I have a copy of Maya that I got with a book from BAM.  I haven't messed with it yet, since there didn't appear to be an easy way to port the models into FSX, though someone was working on a "translator".

Maya also seems the 3D app of choice of several colleges for their 3D animation courses Two colleges in my area offer 3D courses, and both use Maya, so there may be some advantage.

I'll have to dig it up (I think I have it installed already) and poke around with it a bit.

I also noticed that Maya is mentioned occasionally in the  "3D design" topic, so who knows?
 

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