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Question about VFR cruise altitude (Read 979 times)
Feb 19th, 2010 at 3:54pm

Titan_Bow   Offline
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Dumb question....  I understand that cruise altitude should be above 300ft. AGL,  even +500 going west and odd +500 going east.
  If I am planning a flight along rolling terrain, or flying say from flat land up over hilly, mountainous terrain where the ground elevation rises 500-1000ft. or more ASL,  do I constantly need to ensure my cruise altitude is adjusted?  Whats the easiest way to do this?  Can I use the elevation off a map, and use time/distance calcs along my route to know when to adjust?  Or is it less precise than that, and just pick a few prominent landmarks on my route and know to be at correct AGL at those?
 
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Reply #1 - Feb 19th, 2010 at 5:15pm

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Excellent questions.... First thing to note, is that you don't have to maintain any altitude while cruising VFR.. other than minimums over things like populated areas, or min/max regarding certain airspaces (like flying over towered airspace, or under a "shelf"). In fact, sometimes I'll cruise at a random altitude to avoid others (this is situational and requires experience to make that judgment).

Next note (and I'm sure it's a typo).. suggested cruising altitudes begin above 3000agl..

ANYway.. just think of it like flying from Chicago to Denver. A cruising altitude of 4500msl at Chicago, will fly you right into the ground well before you reach Denver. In other words.. you have the right idea. Plan on changing altitude as terrain dictates.. Checking the field elevations at airports along the way is a good reference... and of course hills/mountains and towers. Generally, in a light single, I shoot for something between 2500 and 6500agl... depending on winds aloft. Depends on the airplane too. A climb from 4500msl to 8500msl in a C172, even for better winds aloft, might be pointless on legs shorter than 200nm.
 
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Reply #2 - Feb 20th, 2010 at 10:45am

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In addition to what Brett said.  You'll plan your flight for a specific MSL altitude, not an AGL altitude, unless your need to fly at a specific AGL altitude for some reason.  For example, I live around some uneven terrain with hills that have bases around 900 ft MSL and tops around 1500 ft MSL.  When planning a flight, it's better to be conservative if you can, so your VFR cruising altitudes would start at 3000 ft AGL, which would be around 3900 AGL, meaning if I were flying west, I should fly at 4500 ft MSL, 6500 ft MSL, 8500 ft MSL, etc.  If I were flying east, I would fly at 5500 ft MSL, 7500 ft MSL, 9500 ft MSL, etc.  I'll also want to maintain my minimum altitudes over specific object, so say my route of flight avoids radio towers and other obstacles like that, but takes me over several small towns, some in valleys and some on tops of hills.  I would choose a cruise altitude at least 1000 ft above the highest town along the route, meaning I would have to fly at least 2500 ft MSL.  So, putting it all together.  Say I'm flying west, I could fly at any altitude between 2500 ft MSL and 3900 ft MSL, or 4500 ft MSL, 6500 ft MSL, 8500 ft MSL, etc.  You'll also want to choose an altitude that is high enough to give you time to react and altitude to glide in case of an emergency.

It sounds complicated, but it's not too bad in the end.  The most important thing to remember is the difference between AGL and MSL altitudes.  You'll rarely use AGL altitudes when flying, only to choose an altitude that avoids obstacles and is above your minimum altitude.  The rest of the time, you'll use MSL altitude because it is always the same, regardless of the terrain.
 

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Reply #3 - Feb 22nd, 2010 at 11:39am

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Thanks for the help guys.  So I did a short flight the other night from Greenville-Spartanburg Int. to Asheville Int.  I took off from Greenville,  tracked inbound to an NDB thats a little more than the halfway point.  Waited for the needle to flop, then turned to track the outbound into Asheville.   Greenville is at roughly 1000ft. and Asheville is a little over 2000ft., so there is a 1000ft. difference in roughly 30 miles.   It was 337 degrees to the NDB and 344 to Asheville, so I climbed and maintained a 6500MSL cruise altitude.
 
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