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Reply #120 - Oct 7th, 2008 at 5:52pm

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I was going to say... did you run the CHKDSK I posted?

I think you found your problem!


As for purchase.. Go to the O&O site.. unfortunately you missed the sale on buy 8.6 and get 10 free deal... let me see if that link is still active but I think it ended in September

EDIT: Nope.. sale is over

you should be able to contact O&O directly and get a 8.6 license

http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/

I have no idea how well O&O 11 works as I have not had time to test it or work with it. If they fixed the freespace issue with the software leaving empty chunks  between the clusters with the NAME defrag then its fine as long as access to the setup for using 'layout.ini' in XP is still available
 
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Reply #121 - Oct 7th, 2008 at 7:14pm

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okay its all done now.

i gotta say, first thing i noticed is windows boots faster then i can say supercalifragiliciousexpielidocious LOL.

i got 27 processes at startup which i hink is good too, and xp is consuming ~200 mb in memory, which is NOTHING compared to vista's usual 600.

thanks for the support nick, and once again let me thank you for making this available.
 

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Reply #122 - Oct 7th, 2008 at 11:44pm

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Okay Im having some problems configuring FSX now.

If i leave it stock, im getting micro stutters all the time, even though my frames are anywhere from 30 to 50 on unlimited. setting it down to anything other then 30 makes it worse, so ive been leaving it at unlmt (ive been testing in Ft Lauderdale). i also get bigger stutters when i turn, like, a lot.

i tired to do what you pointed out in this thread

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1212634135


however, all this and the stuttering is so annoying i cant fly. do u have any suggestions?

UPDATE

ok ive been at it all night.

there is NOTHING i do that makes it better. ive tried every combo of bufferpool and TBm that i could, along with changes in AL, AG etc.

the sim with UTX, GEX, was running better in vista than it is on win xp with all those optimizations i did. i have no clue what to do. this if frustrating. for the most part, the frames are there, but the stutters are unbearable. ive spent so much time trying to get it right, and  it just hasnt worked. believe it or not when i had it in vista i got a constant 25 fps in city with an addon aircraft at night with everything on max terrain wise.

i dont know. also now the buildings and trees pop a lot, i mean a LOT more then before.

maybe you can help me nick, maybe u cant. whatever the case, im open to any suggestion at this point. would you reccomend a hardware upgrade? if so are we talking motherboard for ddr3 ram and a single, bigger card rather then the 8800's sli'd? and a 10K drive? and faster ddr 3 ram with faster FSB speeds?

at the poiunt of desperation right now. better sleep. ive spent the last 48 hours literally, on flight sim. to no end Sad Sad

LAST UPDATE I SWEAR

i cant sleep until ig et this flightsim bangin

made fsx make a new .cfg no tweaks. frames are better now, however i have a serious case of blurries, and thats why buildings and trees keep popping right around me (not far awaY) and teh textures keep loading while i fly and their blurry. also have a case of the stutters. if i can get this fixed and optimized for my ssytem ill be the happiest dude ever. until then i feel like crap lol.

« Last Edit: Oct 8th, 2008 at 4:47am by flavio »  

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Reply #123 - Oct 8th, 2008 at 9:27am

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Hello to this Forum.

O&O Defrag 8.6. still available (at least as of today)...

http://www.pearl.de/a-SA4661-3303.shtml


MfG Ralph
 
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Reply #124 - Oct 8th, 2008 at 9:55am

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flavio wrote on Oct 7th, 2008 at 11:44pm:
Okay Im having some problems configuring FSX now.

If i leave it stock, im getting micro stutters all the time, even though my frames are anywhere from 30 to 50 on unlimited. setting it down to anything other then 30 makes it worse, so ive been leaving it at unlmt (ive been testing in Ft Lauderdale). i also get bigger stutters when i turn, like, a lot.

i tired to do what you pointed out in this thread

http://forums.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1212634135


however, all this and the stuttering is so annoying i cant fly. do u have any suggestions?

UPDATE

ok ive been at it all night.

there is NOTHING i do that makes it better. ive tried every combo of bufferpool and TBm that i could, along with changes in AL, AG etc.

the sim with UTX, GEX, was running better in vista than it is on win xp with all those optimizations i did. i have no clue what to do. this if frustrating. for the most part, the frames are there, but the stutters are unbearable. ive spent so much time trying to get it right, and  it just hasnt worked. believe it or not when i had it in vista i got a constant 25 fps in city with an addon aircraft at night with everything on max terrain wise.

i dont know. also now the buildings and trees pop a lot, i mean a LOT more then before.

maybe you can help me nick, maybe u cant. whatever the case, im open to any suggestion at this point. would you reccomend a hardware upgrade? if so are we talking motherboard for ddr3 ram and a single, bigger card rather then the 8800's sli'd? and a 10K drive? and faster ddr 3 ram with faster FSB speeds?

at the poiunt of desperation right now. better sleep. ive spent the last 48 hours literally, on flight sim. to no end Sad Sad

LAST UPDATE I SWEAR

i cant sleep until ig et this flightsim bangin

made fsx make a new .cfg no tweaks. frames are better now, however i have a serious case of blurries, and thats why buildings and trees keep popping right around me (not far awaY) and teh textures keep loading while i fly and their blurry. also have a case of the stutters. if i can get this fixed and optimized for my ssytem ill be the happiest dude ever. until then i feel like crap lol.




This thread is not how to make FSX run better... its how to get the system in line so FSX has resources

I have no idea what hardware you use, what FSX settings you are using, what drivers you are using or if you are correctly set up with the video card. Without knowing the hardware and without going through it to find the culprit which could be many things, including IMPROPER installation or setup of an add-on, I cant suggest anything

The thread you posted is probably one of the best examples of how to set up FSX but the settings and suggestions I posted to Vic are based on his hardware and how clocked he was.

I have seen more problems from people not knowing how to install FSX with the service packs (correctly) and also how to install and setup addons like UTX than any other reason.

Unfortunately I do not have time to fix everyones FSX install. If you are seeing stutters with high frames I would have to look at Vsync and confirm Nhancer is correctly setup with the right drivers and also look at the hardware, its clock and what FSX settings are being used. If that checks out I would look at addons like UTX and others that may not be installed or setup correctly for the hardware.

I assume you installed EVERYTHING including ALL addons and confirmed they were working (regardless of performance) before running the defrag passes? If so then the problem is the install of FSX, the setup of FSX, the drivers or driver settings being used or an addon issue.


I dont want to hear about how Vista runs FSX better than XP after optimizing because I know thats BS ... if thats what you think then go back to Vista. If you had a smooth and great running sim in Vista as your post suggests, why bother to go the the extreme of reformatting and running XP then? That does not make any sense!


I am not going to get into a FSX tuning session with anyone in this thread. Tuning FSX is not what this thread is about and unfortunately I do not have time to fix everyones FSX for them.

If you want to start a thread in the FSX forum when I have time I will look it over and see if there is anything I can suggest however I need specific technical information... not some emotional post that suggests Vista is better than XP which gives me nothing to look at other than a RANT

In another thread I need to see ALL the FSX settings like Vic posted to me in his thread and I also need...

exact data:
FSX version (SP1, SP2 or Acceleration).. and how you installed it. ie; did you follow this list?

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1197380641/0#1

or this one if you do not use Acceleration?

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1197380641/0#6


CPU  and its clocked speed
Motherboard model
Memory type, amount and speed
Video Card and the driver revision being used, and, if its clocked
Hard Drive size, and, type if you have that information

addon list.. every single addon you have installed and what revision the addon is, in other words.. are the addons correctly updated

I also need to know if you updated DirectX too and if you went to Windows Update and installed ALL of the updates for XP




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Reply #125 - Oct 8th, 2008 at 2:59pm

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Hi,

Im sorry, I was up all night, got frustrated, took it out on the wrong place Wink

Well, the windowsoptimization worked fantastic. My windows boots in less then 30 seconds and is lightning fast, everything I do gets done instantnaeously. If your considering doing the list, I would recommended, but follow it word by word.

I will make another thread for other issues. I am not experienced in forums, this is the second forum i have ever joined in my life, sorry mate!!!
 

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Reply #126 - Oct 8th, 2008 at 4:44pm

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flavio wrote on Oct 8th, 2008 at 2:59pm:
Hi,

Im sorry, I was up all night, got frustrated, took it out on the wrong place Wink

Well, the windowsoptimization worked fantastic. My windows boots in less then 30 seconds and is lightning fast, everything I do gets done instantnaeously. If your considering doing the list, I would recommended, but follow it word by word.

I will make another thread for other issues. I am not experienced in forums, this is the second forum i have ever joined in my life, sorry mate!!!



I understand frustrations but ranting is not going to help and staying up all night makes for nothing but a tired user. If you post a thread in the FSX forum listing everything I requested I will look it over and see if I spot anything. I cant promise I will find the problem but I will take a look at what you posted and post back as soon as I can
 
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Reply #127 - Oct 8th, 2008 at 4:57pm

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wil do sir!

my girlfriend is so mad at me right now, after staying up 48 hours i didnt return any of her calls, then she came over and i was sleeping all day today lol. nothing good comes from desperation does it lol.
 

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Reply #128 - Oct 8th, 2008 at 5:21pm

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flavio wrote on Oct 8th, 2008 at 4:57pm:
wil do sir!

my girlfriend is so mad at me right now, after staying up 48 hours i didnt return any of her calls, then she came over and i was sleeping all day today lol. nothing good comes from desperation does it lol.


You want some real advice?

Advice better than anything else I have ever posted in this or any other thread on the net?

Go get some sleep.. take care of that girlfriend and make sure she is happy before you start playing video games

and stop staying up for 48 hours making all sorts of mistakes being overtired trying to get a video game working

Take that advice and I am sure you will be in a much better place for tweaking correctly and enjoying your sim
 
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Reply #129 - Oct 9th, 2008 at 11:42am

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Nick, before I start with your procedure I would like to make sure that I understand your first post right:

>> DO NOT USE THE LIST DIRECTLY ANYMORE
>> http://forums.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1163028653/0#5  
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>> USE THE FOLLOWING

This means that we should not use the procedure provided in the link but the one which follows the "USE THE FOLLOWING" - correct?

Thanks   Ralph
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Reply #130 - Oct 9th, 2008 at 1:19pm

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Quote:
author=Birdiemaker link=1208959973/120#129 date=1223566961]Nick, before I start with your procedure I would like to make sure that I understand your first post right:

>> DO NOT USE THE LIST DIRECTLY ANYMORE
>> http://forums.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1163028653/0#5
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>> USE THE FOLLOWING

This means that we should not use the procedure provided in the link but the one which follows the "USE THE FOLLOWING" - correct?

Thanks   Ralph


yep

I just just posted the link so people who have used the infrom from the link in the past know not to use it anymore and to use the info in this thread only
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Reply #131 - Oct 12th, 2008 at 2:33pm

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I was thinking of taking the plunge and go through all the steps you listed, Nick.  One question, is this meant to go through in one sitting?  Or if I need to stop in the middle of these steps, can I turn off computer and get back to it later?
If I can stop and start, are there any steps where I shouldn't stop?
Thanks alot.
 
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Reply #132 - Oct 12th, 2008 at 3:29pm

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It takes about 10-15 minutes to do the first part... (system edits) perhaps a bit longer for someone who is not computer savvy

How long it takes to clean up the startup system depends on the user and their experience

The defrags can not be stopped and should never be interrupted or multitasked on the system... even to check email, and, they should be run just like I posted with no break to come back to them

On a new system that has a lot of software installed it can take a day to do it right. Typical systems probably about 4-6 hours

If you have Windows on one physical drive and FSX on another you must complete the Windows drive and then you can stop and do the FSX drive defrags another time.. otherwise I would not stop anything and commit to doing the job right


 
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Reply #133 - Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:53pm

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Nick,
I see that the tweaks you suggest are for WinXP SP2.  I now have WinXP SP3, will the tweaks work, or what would you suggest?  Thank you for your continuing help!
 

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Reply #134 - Oct 13th, 2008 at 1:25pm

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Hi Nick!

I got a small problem...

I've used the trial O&O DeFrag over the last month, and it's run out now.

I can't really afford the paid version, so what would you suggest?

Vista 32 bit BTW.
 

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