It was writing 'CFS4' which was (ostensibly) an update of 'CFS1' using new aircraft, engines, scenery, and expanding the theatre of operations.
Shortly into the project it was announced that it had been cancelled.
Some of us believe that it wasn't actually cancelled but that it was 'put back' for the release of Vista to exploit the new hardware / drivers that will become available and try to steal a march on Maddox's IL2 series, particularly 'Battles of Britain' which has the same idea.
The reason this is suspected is that Tucker's team of developers doesn't seem to have been disassembled, but rather just 'assigned to other duties'.
Watch the skies....

I just hope it includes the Pacific Theater also and not just the Eropean Theater. If they do that,I"m sure it will give the Ubi IL2 series a run for their Money.





James007

I believe there is a great interest in the Pacific Theater in the Sim World at this moment. If I where Microsoft I would tab on that. That does not mean there is less interest in the European Theater. What I mean is that the newer members are equaly interested in both Theater and I would rather see a more comprehensive Sim that would treat the whole air war in a World two sim instead of representing just one Theater over the other.

This has been a opinion


James007

It was an update of CFS1, using the CFS3 engine, flight models, etc.

Correct.

We shall have to wait and see.

Correct, I worded that badly.

As I understand it. CFS4 was going to be another European base combat flight Simulator. Boy, we would have had CFS1,CFS3 plus CFS4 all base soley base on  Europe.

Thats not to mention EAW, Janes Fighter and many more. Now thats simply not market smart. You can over bare a consumer with the same product and you will reduce your market value. Now if you throw in the Pacific Therater with it diversity of missions together with the European Theater than you might have a winner.

People get tire of the same thing all the time no matter how good it might be. Now if you add something to it they just might continue buying what your are selling them.

This has been a opinion

James007

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I can only tell you what I was told when I asked a member of the team to briefly describe it (in simple terms that even I would understand). That's what I was told. I've since seen descriptions on other sites which described it as, 'imagine CFS1, built with everything that's now available to make it'.

This was a very exciting description to me as I think there is a fundamental difference between CFS1 and everything that followed. CFS1's 'fun'.

Not sure now, but I think I remember Tucker even saying something along those lines, in the job description when the ad's for CFS4 game writers went out.

lolol
how funny.
this was often a topic of discussion in game rooms.
some people preferred CFS1, others CFS2 or 3.
I tried 2 and 3, and the IL2 series, and they are all technologically more advanced than CFS1.
CFS1 is absolutely an old games dinosaur, and still the most fun of the lot.

I'm still waiting for a modern combat sim with sparrows, sidewinders, harm, paveway and counter measures etc. I'm not holding my breath however, seems MS is avoiding going there at all costs. I guess we're doomed to re-hashes of CFS1.

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No need to wait its called Falcon 4.0-AF.  MS does not have the flight dynamics to do much more then enter the mid to high transonic area, early 1950's jets like Korean war vintage.  You can only stretch Cessna 150 flight dynamic so far.

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You must have missed it....there is no CFS4 so there is nothing to talk about except what might have been.  Outside of MS there are only a handful of people who actually know what happened with CFS4 & as far as I remember you & whatshis name were not among them.

I will be sure to tell the guys flying the Doolittle raid mission today that you said they cant do it. 

Sorry James but PF was a failure in sales with less then 50,000 units sold in the US.  But you might want to give Oleg a hit of whatever it is you are smoking as it will surely make him feel better. 

BTW ever wonder why most of the PF add-on planes like the Petlyakov Pe-2 are ETO, MTO & EF?

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I guess some other James 007 must have written this:

james007
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Boy I thought this was going to be a discussion on CFS4 not about CFS3!



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As noted above, your last response was amazingly incoherent even for you, I do believe it actually set a new standard, congratulations.   I can see no real point in trying to unravel it to generate a response.

Its too bad the one thing that was clear has no merit as the PF sales in the US as bad as noted were its high point, it did much worse in the rest of the world & did not break 80,000 units in total.

It has nothing to do with diversity most people including the major flight sim guys at MS don't like combat sims.  They are quite happy to spend hours doing nothing but flying from point a to point b.

They think you are a barbarian pretending to fly around killing other people.  Post about the glories of simulated air combat on thier forums & see how long you last.

The civilian FS series has out sold the entire combat sim market by 15 or 20 to one.  In the same period that PF sold 50K units in the US FS-9 sold almost 700,000.

That air combat sims don't sell well is a fact of life; deal with it. Because they don't sell well all the major producers have bailed out of the market.

A really mega combat sim hit might sell in the range of 500,000 units.  When it comes to civil vs. military civil wins hands down.



As for your desire for diversity,  MAW goes from the burning sands of North Africa over the frozen Alps into Germany & Romania spanning 1939 to 1945.

http://www.medairwar.com/maw_mediterranean_air_war_intro.htm

Combatant aircraft include, RAF, RN, USN, USAAC, RAAF, EVA, ADL'A, RNZAF, YVV, ICAF, RCAF, SAAF, FAFL & FAB for the Allies. The Axis includes, RA, ANR, ARR, Luftwaffe, ADL'AV, & BVV

http://www.medairwar.com/maw_opposing_air_forces_page.htm



These aircraft span aviation history from carrier launched fabric covered bi-planes attacking battleships to Jet & Rocket powered aircraft defending Germany in its last days.



My group alone has generated in excess of 100 quality aircraft for CFS3.  

http://www.avhistory.org

There are a number of other groups like ground crew & Italian wings that have also generated a large number of not only quality aircraft but also ships from capital ships down to player usable PT boats.

Notice how I can yank your chain & get 3 shameless commercial plugs in at the same time. Thank you for creating that opportunity.

I'd leave it James.
There were always a few on the 'big-I-am' trip in CFS chat online.
The real players tended to let 'em get on with it there as well.
They were happy to tell anyone who'd listen how important they were to combat flight sim's while people like u and me went off and played 'em.
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Your are right. Let him amuse us with his Screeen shots. Nothing reallychanges after all. His Funny man after all.



James007

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I have not been able to post for the few days. After waching this post that was originaly about a member having a question about the Future of the CFS series turn into a Shameless adverticement for CFS3. I have a few things to say.

CFS3 is a good Combat Simulator with some nice features. Like for example if you buy the Firepower addon you will able to use the turren gunner of a B17. Thats something that you can not do with the other Sims at this time. It some nice sceneries that a more third dementions then most of the other Sims have. It also have some nice planes and the only one with a more Dynamic Campaign Generator that allow you effect the future of a campaign. Mine you less Historical base than the other Sims.

The Offline World war one base addon that is a class production by a very nice group of guys. Even dow this does take the away the need for a Dedicated World war one Combat Sim.

The MAW Addon is been promise to bee a pretty good addon on a Theater of war that has not been properly represented at this in the Sim communitty. But at this moment its only a bunch of Screen Shots has been use as a excuse to Bluff to intimitate other members and to show off CFS3 over the Sims. I hope they can finnish it without the need to bee boustful and allow the community to enjoy it as one more addon for the communitty to enjoy and not sold as the ultimate addon in the Hobby.

Now let me tell something that CFS3 will not give you.

The diversity and flexibility of CFS2. With over 1,500 planes.

A world map with the ability to create missions all over the World.

With more than 500 Airbases spread out over the world.

With countless Texures and Sceneries that can bee place over the World.

Mission and Camapaigns that represent basically all the AirForces that participated in World war two.

You can even Build missions and campaigns for the Chinese Airforce flying over China. Can you believe
that!

Just Check This post on how planes to fly in with CFS2. Thats a diversity that CFS3 cannot match. Especially since CFS3 developer most likely will never build a serous addon for the Pacific Theater.

In  CFS2 the developer are very balance and interested in all aspect of World war two Aviation. Thats very refreshing.

Check this post out and see How many planes this Sim offer.

I have decide to make a post placing most of the links I have with CFS2 planes. I hope to you like this post. My only objective is to help fellow members to find most of the planes that have been develope  throughout  the years for this community by its dedicated developers.

My first recomdation if you to install Acman from this Website that will anable you to install most if not all this planes in different Hangars and in different CFS2 Installs.

1.http://fly.to/mwgfx#

                        A WORD OF CAUTION

When you use the Acman and create a new Hangar you need to include the stock planes. What you can do is to make a New Folder and place a copy of the Stock planes in it. When you make the new Hangar just copy  the stock planes from this Folder. Remember also that you are limit to 95 to 100 planes per Hangar. You do get up to18 Hangar with this program.


My secound recommendation is for you to install this utility from Sim-outhouse that will allow you to change planes and ships with in a Miision and Campaigns in secounds.

It also will give the ability to change whole planes Hangars and convert them into Ai Bandits in Quick mission.

This way you do not have activate plane after planes manualy. Its call mk_cfs2_uti2v.zip

2.http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileType=cfs2...

Now let start the best of planes and Skin plus panels available for this Sim.

1.Simviation planes.What great collection:http://www.simviation.com/cfs2aircraft1.htm

2.Sim-outhhouse hundreds of planes. One of favorite Website:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileType=cfs2...

3. Simhouse Skins:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileType=cfs2...

4.Sim-Outhouse outlet planes:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/master_ftp/cfs2/cfs2-aircraft/

5.Sims Outel Skins:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/master_ftp/cfs2/cfs2-skins/

6.Wai planes. It those only have nice planes but one of the P51 avalable in the Sim World:http://acwai.00freehost.com/index.html

7. Netwings planes. One of the great collections of planes ever:http://www.netwings.org/library/CFS2%5FPlanes/

6.Netwings Skins. Very nice ones indeed:http://www.netwings.org/library/CFS2%5FSkins/

7.World war one planes available right here:http://www.aer.ip3.co.uk/cfs2_9.htm

8. A nice Web for planes:http://myzone59.ath.cx/combatflightsimulator/avions.htm

9.Avsim a nice all around Website for planes and o
ther things:http://www.avsim.com/

10.http://www.big.or.jp/~chah_s/beyond1945/htm-e/6/index.html

11.Nice Mosquito:http://bescaravage.free.fr/bruno/pages/entrez.htm

11. World war one and P26 planes:http://www.mwsteckel.com/CFS2.html

12. Absuad self auto install upgraded planes available Here:http://www.absquad.net/CFS2_ABSquad.htm
13Nice

He177 :http://www.geocities.com/kg200hangar/cfs2aircraft.html

14.French Web with lots of planes. You will figure it out:http://cfsfrance.altajeux.com/

15.DAG has Russian planes:http://cfsfrance.altajeux.com/DAG/links.htm

16.French Fighter D520 Dewoitine:http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jm.mermaz/telecharg/d520gmax/d520gmax.htm

17.Website dedicated to the P51:http://www.btinternet.com/~duxford.legends/pages/P51.html

18.Missions and Bf109:http://www.angelfire.com/ab5/cfs2brits/Downloads

19.Easy Kill has nice Skins and effects:http://storage2.free.fr/

20.Easy Kills planes are here:http://storage2.free.fr/

21.Spanish Web with some more planes: http://usuarios.lycos.es/flakiten/

23.This site has many nice Me110 and some other European planes:http://www.groundcrewdesign.com/cfs2planes.htm

24. Av planes:http://www.netwings.org/library/Avhistory%5FCFS2%5FAircraft/

25.This Web also CFS2 planes:http://www.surclaro.com/downloads_c2_240_hitsA.html

26. Best site for Italian planes:http://www.isoliti4gatti.com/warbirds.htm

27.Good site for Ju52:http://www.ju52-3m.ch/models.htm

28.Best site for Ki44:http://pigeonh.free.fr/ki442.htm

29.One of the best Websites for Japanese planes and some German planes as well. I love the Ki43 and Ki84:http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://hago003.hp.infoseek.c...

30. Here is another Website:http://home.iprimus.com.au/mandcsilver/

31.Here is another Japanes Website with some nice Japanese planes:http://yashico.cool.ne.jp/

32. Here is a Website with rare British planes:http://www.pavaservices.com/cfs/

33.http://uk.geocities.com/wily_crocodiley/cfs2/aircraft.html

34.Another British Website with guess what? More British planes. I love their Spitfire and Hurricain. It also has a nice Ki43 with all around view from the cockpit: http://www.raf662.com/modules.php?name=Downloads

35.Modern planes:http://www.anglovirtual.4t.com/photo.html

36.Bruno planes:http://www.br-planes.fr.st/

37.Green Stuart Web includes World war one and two planes. It also includes the only G4MI Betty in this Sim:http://www.domicilium.com/peveril/hangar/hangar.htm

Nows lets talk about IL-2 Pacific Fighter Merge. It has Hundreds of planes and and many Dynamics Historical base Campaigns representing most the most important campaigns in World war two.

Just check this post out and you will what I mean.

http://www.lowengrin.com/news.php

Most important of all you now fly in the Eastern Front with virtualy every plane that participated in that front.

That something that you cannot do with CFS3.


James007

Now Lets talk about the Sim this Forum is base on.


                             CFS1

CFS1 still has place in the community. Its the first one of this series and still the one that gives you the most simple fun to fly with. You see Simplicity has its place in this World. Some time you want to fly and shoot things. Well this is the Sim for it.

I"m going to give you some Websites that will increase your enjoyment of this Sim. I hope you enjoy it as well.

1.http://bandit_55.homestead.com/BANDIT_55.html

2.http://perso.orange.fr/jm.mermaz/aviation.htm

3.http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002987/hangar/soft1-e.html#top

4.http://www.cfsops.com/Scenery/Scenery.htm

5.http://www.absquad.net/

6.http://www.raf662.com/modules.php?name=Downloads

7.http://cfsfrance.altajeux.com/

8.http://www.geocities.com/klu_cfs/download.html

9.http://www.cfsops.com/

10.http://www.jinksboy.com/HOME.html

11.http://www.jinksboy.com/

12.http://www.multicfs.com/

13.http://www.sim-outhouse.com/master_ftp/cfs/

14.http://homepage.ntlworld.com/adrian.camp/RedSkwirrell2006/Dogfighting.htm

15.http://hsquad.katuu.com/

16.
http://www.mnwright.btinternet.co.uk/cfsscene.htm#cfsact

From this Website you can get numerous planes as well.

17.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1aircraft1.htm

Modern planes:

18.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1mod1.htm

A great collections of great missions and campaigns from all over the World.

19.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1missions1.htm

Panels:

20.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1panels1.htm

Ultilities:

21.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1utilitites1.htm

Mics:

22.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1misc1.htm

Sim-Outhouse has a lot of goodies for CFS1 as well:

23.http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=combatfs/pages&page=downloads_cfs

I hope you will fly with this Sim until you drop and not allow any one influence you not to. Every Sim has its value. The more diversity and options we have the better the community and Hobby will be. Lets open doors and share information and Help each other instead of invading each other forums with deceptions and half truths.

I hope you enjoy the information I have given you


James007

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Wrong;  there is no need to buy anything as even the stock bombers in CFS3 have all turret & hand held guns player usable.

Our original "freeware" MOLLY II B-17G has player usable Chin Turret, Right Cheek gun, Left Cheek gun, Top Turret, Radio shack gun, Ball turret, Right waist gun, Left waist gun, tail gun, bombardier & Co-pilot positions.  Plane like the Dauntless, Val, Avenger etc have player usable rear gunner stations & Betty has them all player usable.

BTW once you weed out the not so good of the 1,500 planes what's left to fly & how do you get time to fly them all well?

There are less then 300 quality aircraft visuals available in CFS2 & of those maybe half have well done flight models.

Unfortunately many of the rest are generally cut & paste flight models of other existing planes into them.

One other thing I was not aware there were 1,500 individual WWII combat aircraft developed by the belligerent nations.  It would be interesting for you to provide a list so I can see what I left out of my list.

You make a big deal over the world map but there is no WWII plane that has really long range except a few navy seaplanes & the B-29.  

BTW the CFS3 maps are 1,600 miles across & a B-29A had practical operational radius of 1800 miles so it could fly a normal bombing mission in CFS3 if anyone wanted to spend 11 hours doing it.  

As for MAW & its release you don't have a clue at to its status; So maybe another screen shot of yet another new MAW plane might be enlightening or in your case annoying.

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That's the whole point, a contiguous world map is nice but totally unnecessary to recreate just about any mission flown in WWII because of the planes limited range.

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Actually that's not 100% correct.  Some B-29's were deliberately shown in England to cause misinformation in German intelligence circles.  May B-29's found their way into China, a 11,530-mile journey, involving stops at Marrakech, Cairo, through Iran & since these points were well within a B-29's range to German cities so as far as German intelligence was concerned they were a threat.

Feb.26, 1944... Project 98070, also known as the Pathfinder Project using airplane 41-36963 left Marietta Ga for Bayamon P.R. to go by southern route (to India)
March 1, 1944:  Ordered back to Marietta to take northern route to UK.
March 6, 1944:  Left Gander to St Mawgens.
March 8, 1944:  To Bassingbourne...Flew to British and American bases testing runways for weight carrying capacity and letting the Germans take pictures at high altitude.....the object to make the Germans think the B-29's were to be used against them.  The airplane was shown to many visitors such as Churchill, Eisenhowwer, Tony Spaatz, Chief Air Marshall Tedder, etc.
April 1, 1944:  Left St Mawgens for Marrakesh at 00:56 and flew two hours east before turning south to Marrakesh.
April 2, 1944: Left Marrakesh to Cairo
April 5, 1944:  Cairo to Karachi
April 6, 1944: Karachi to Kharagphur and met there by (Gen) K. B. Wolfe.


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We have proved with MAW that we can create from scratch all new theaters with highly detailed terrain like in Italy, Greece, Yugoslavia   Romania,the Med islands like Malta & Crete, North African ports & cities like Benghazi & Tripoli that we can build any terrain we feel like building in a all new world 1,600 miles on each side.


Famous Greek Landmark

All new Cities

All new ports like Benghazi

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Iwo Jima is about 650 miles south of Tokyo & 650 miles north of the B-29 bases in the Marianas.  That's a run of 1,300 miles & our maps are 1,600 miles wide so no problem if I decide to build one with room to spare.

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I said there are about 300 pretty good visuals & about 150 that also have good flight models, that's still a long long way from 1,500 different aircraft.

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Not exactly as some of our guys have & do.  They also rebuild them for others that do.  From our Home page'

"The 1% process has given us a method to create very high fidelity MS flight models. We're now beginning the next evolution in flight models that model the quirks or personality of the aircraft. To help achieve this, advisor's like the Planes of Fame Museum, http://www.planesoffame.org/ have provided assistance to AvHistory to allow us to more accurately model the aircraft."

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Then maybe you should stop pushing CFS2 so hard.  

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Did you not post this in a CFS3 forum?

"You can Buy CFS2 and CFS3 right here if you want:
1.http://yhst-12000246778232.stores.yahoo.net/aircombatgames.html
There are other places you can Buy this great sims.
James007"

The post above you already mentioned CFS2 so why bother to add to it in a CFS3 forum?

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It is a historical fact & you left out the B-29 touring England for the Germans benefit.

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Its very clear you just don't understand the concept of theater creation.  Maybe someone else can help you as I don't seem to be able to get through.

One more time, There is no MAW map that is used globally. We have the ability to create from scratch a piece of terrain 1,600 miles by 1,600 miles anyplace in the world & replicate, with better fidelity then CFS2 can because CFS3 has better native visual capability, any location in the world we want.

If you don't think we have better native terrain generation capability please post a picture of a city like the one above from CFS2.

Right now in addition to MAW, Spain & Korea are being done.  We are doing the planes for them.  Last time I looked Korea was in the Pacific & based on the size of the map F-86's can fly from bases in Japan over Korea to Mig Alley & if they choose over the Yalu into China....OOPS wait a minute you said we could not fly in China.

As for flying the hump which would get pretty boring quite quickly the distance from Dinjan to Kunming is only 500 miles.  We have already done the Alps so doing the Himalayas would not be verturing into unknown terratory.  

The problem with your base argument is we can build any scenario you come up with even a boring one like flying the hump because the range of the planes fits into our major terrain limitation.

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Its obvious you know next to nothing about flight modeling. All modern combat planes are 'built' & 'flown' on computers well before a single piece of structure is built.  WWII planes are considerably less complex then a modern plane and much easier to computer model. The laws of physics do not change just because a plane is 50 years old.

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You can think whatever you want.  Based on over 500,000 downloads a lot of people think the AvHistory CFS2 planes are very very good in CFS2.  Having built over 100 of them for CFS2 I know our Version 4 CFS3 planes are better by a very wide margin.  Additionally, our CFS2 planes were much better then our CFS planes.  The more you do the more you learn & we have been doing this for about 16 years.

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That is a totally bogus statement & has no merit whatsoever.

Finally, this sentence once again shows your lack of knowledge of modern computer simulations capability. If you can measure it, weight it, determine its power you can very accurately simulate it.

You might want to read this to get up to date as  Dr. Jan Roskam's work is built into our Version 4 flight packages.

http://www.darcorp.com/Company_Profile/Jan_Roskam

Hey, your comment on me pushing CFS2 is incorrect. this is what I wrote:"You can Buy CFS2 and CFS3 right here if you want: 
1.http://yhst-12000246778232.stores.yahoo.net/aircombatgames.html ;
There are other places you can Buy this great sims. 
James007"
Here is the post we are talking about.

1.http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=cfs3;action=display;num=11...

I think that I mention CFS3 as a great sim as well. This new member was asking about wish Sim we recommend for him to buy. beside thats probably is my first post in the CFS3 forum in months. I see no wrong in what I did. But I did not invade another forum about a subject not related to the subject at hand and polluted it with promotions about another Sim.

I did also wrote that I"m if I ever did this to any other Sims forum I was sorry..

I believe it take a man to say you are sorry when you have hurt or done something wrong and invaded someone elses forum. That is simply put wrong.

As for the B29 in Europe. Its interesting historical correct what you wrote. I read about it many years ago, but as the purpose of have build one when their is no scanerios for it. Its useless from a historical point of view. These where not direct cambat missions. Thats why I said it was lame. Thus the conclution is they have no place in Europe but in the Pacific Theater.

You still did not answer me how would you mimic their flight from Europe to China in CFS3 or their mission from India where they wherere fisrt use.

I guess the answer is never.

I understand Theater creation very well. It means you pick the Theater that I can fly in and a World map means that I can chose and not you where I want to fly. I like that freedom. CFS2 give me that freedom.


I wrote "You mean all the other modeler are not as good as the CFS3 modeler. I do not  think so "
You wrote,You can think whatever you want.  Based on over 500,000 downloads a lot of people think the AvHistory CFS2 planes are very very good in CFS2. Now thats a lot of Downloads if you ask me. Maybe just maybe its a pretty darn good Sim on its own turn.

I wrote"The only way to know how those old the vintage plane flew is by flying them with modern sensors in full Simulated Battle conditions. James007

You wrote"Finally, this sentence once again shows your lack of knowledge of modern computer simulations capability. If you can measure it, weight it, determine its power you can very accurately simulate it.

I say "Computor can simulate real life but will never be real life". Why would we have any need test Pilots its all the fligh dynamics have been correct with computers. Just train them in how to fly our new planes since the computer program all ready figure it all out.

Why put other program down to be able to up lift yours. That simply wrongand not true.

You have not answer me this simple question that I ask before:As for your comment that is enough space in the MAW map for Iwo Jima map. 

"Maybe, but there is a problem with that also. No comitment or interest in any other theater than that of  the the European Theater.   

Beside thats not enough to mimic other Interesting aspect of World war two Aviaton. Like Burma, the Philipines and China. Not to mention the Russia and Finland and Spain for the SCW.

You cannot mimic or recreate a mission for the C47 flying supplies to over the Himalayas Mountains into China."

You said that if your group where able to build the Alps you could build or design the Himalayas. But  it would boring to fly over them. Well the talent to design them is not in doubt but your interest in design them is. You said it would be boring flying over them. I say it should up the the Sim pilot where and how he flies not up to you.

You continuosly demean the work and taste of other Simmers to sell CFS3. CFS3 simply dose not satisfy every members flying taste. No Sim those that.So stop pushing it in our faces. We want more than it gives us. Its a good Sim but I and other members like other Sims as well.



James007

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It ain't James.

Wonder how much longer the mod's are going to let this pointless attack go on.

*skwirrell.

Av wrote"The squirrel speaks & utters a cry for help from the mod's"

Av"Would not want to offend you by mistake".



I think you already have!




James007

Av "There is a very very big difference between can not build & will not build, so since nobody but you seems all that interested in flying over the hump for hours in a C-47 hauling cargo or a B-29 hauling fuel why bother to waist time building  it".

I do not need you to design anything for me or the community. Like always you destort reality with false information. I have never ask you to.

I can already do this flight through CFS2. I do not need any help from you. There are already seceneries and airfields in India and China that I can fly and land in through CFS2.

The sceneries are great looking and the designer have not finished with upgrading them yet. I was just demostrating the advantages of a world maping over Theater creation. With World mapping you do not  have to depended on some egotistic Fat head like you who likes to treat people like he was Huga Chaves.

Beside this proves how self center you are. I have not and will never ask you to design any Theater for us. Thats another demostration of your ability to stwist the truth.

That proves that you have any intention to ever going to Asia or the Pacific since you refuse to build a scenery that will include the Himalaya that mean there will never bee a AVG campaign in CFS3 since that would include Burma in the Map. Thus, thank God I have CFS2 and other Sims that include this are of the World. Thats the reason I say no one Sim can satiffy our collective satifaction in the Sim world.

Thats the reason that CFS3 will never bee a complete World war two Sim. To be one it needs the ability to represent World war two Aviation in its totality.

You will never be able to fly in places like

1.Solomon

2.Burma

3.Russia

4.Mid Atlantic

5.China

6.Norway

7.Stalingrad

9.Spain

10.Manchuria

11.Finland

12.Philipines

13..Japan

14.Alaska

and many more

Av wrote,BTW Out of the box there are huge areas of the CFS2 world map, most of the world in fact, that don't anything, nada, zip on it, blank space.  So unless some one builds something there is nothing to take off from, fly over or land on.  

Av you would not know of all the upgrades done for CFS2 by its community you are a CFS3 only guy. You wouldn"t know about all the upgrades done to it or about the New patch fot the Pacific merge program that includes a Burma map. If you do now what in the heck are you doing flying with CFS2 or upgrading it or Flying with the Pacific Merge if you say are such poor Sims?

Av,Can you see a similarity here of having to build something before its exists or is it totally beyond your vision?

!You are not as smart as you think you are and I"m not as dumb as you think I"m.

Av,And those test pilots of your spent hundreds of hours where; learning how to fly these planes before they ever sat in it, big hint, a simulator.  

Like always a half truth. The reality is they first design the planes thru computors and then teach the the panels with what been simulated and the flight simulated charaterists of that planes to the test pilots. But the last and most important test are done by real pilots in real planes risking their lives since computors and Simulators can only go so far. Other wise we would not have to risk their lives to test them.


You wrote this describtion of your self. It sad that feel this way about yourself when you said you where obtuse.

You also wrote about Pacific Fighter and its FM.

Av,Problem is which of the 20 or so versions is the one since there is no, nada, zip linier progression from one FM to another?  The flight models just randomly jump around based on who was whining the loudest about there favorite planes on-line performance

How would you now that unlest Oleg told you that. Or did you broke his code to find out. Now thats not legal.

You are putting CFS1 down with a projected thats at this time is not finnished. WoW

CFS1 is a lot of fun enjoy it. Fly it until you drop.

You continuosly demean the work and taste of other Simmers to sell CFS3. CFS3 simply dose not satisfy every members flying taste. No Sim those that.So stop pushing it in our faces. We want more than it gives us. Its a good Sim but I and other members like other Sims as well.  

I believe that Microsoft will better serve if they develope their next Combat flight Simulator with a World map like F9. This way they will give us options of where to fly and against whom. You will not be forced or be restrain to fight and fly in the same scenery against the same enemy all the time.
 

Since I do respect others and unlike other members of this community hopefuly this will bee my last post on this subject.


James007

Hasn't offended me any.
Didn't even realise he was trying to.
I think these folks are funny.
The chat-queens in CFS1 kept me laffin in between games with their 'at-monitor' bravado.
I don't usually engage them, coz that just gives 'em the attention they crave and do it for.
Wouldn't even fly 'em.
Fun people are fun inside and outside of games.
People like this are the ones who shout "cheat" when ya beat 'em or "n00b" if ya don't.
I leave 'em to play with 'emselves.
They can shout at each other all day n never learn a thing.
lololol