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Reply #15 - Sep 17th, 2006 at 1:28pm

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I'm still waiting for a modern combat sim with sparrows, sidewinders, harm, paveway and counter measures etc. I'm not holding my breath however, seems MS is avoiding going there at all costs. I guess we're doomed to re-hashes of CFS1. Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #16 - Sep 17th, 2006 at 1:33pm

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Now flying a B17 over Western Europe in a Bombing run is a little old. James007


Really,

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I believe that would give Forgotten Battle/Pacific Fighter programers a run for their money.James007


CFS3 out sold its IL2 based competitors by a wide margin.


EDIT:  Two CFS3 on-line missions being flown today.

Sunday Afternoon New Guinea Test run
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=26498

"Today after we do the Doolittle Raid we will be testing a New Guinea Raid with the Avenger and the 3US Pacific Hellcat.

This is a beta on this mission with 7 Hellcats on carriers, Zeros and Kates in the target area."


1% MP Thirty Seconds over Tokyo
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=26295

"We will be flying the MP "Thirty seconds over Tokyo" mission Friday night at 7:30 CDT and Sunday at 3:00 CDT. You will need the US carrier pack from ISG and the following 1% aircraft:

3US-B25C
Both Japanese Zeros
Japanese Kate Dive Bomber"

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Reply #17 - Sep 17th, 2006 at 1:39pm

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I'm still waiting for a modern combat sim with sparrows, sidewinders, harm, paveway and counter measures etc.



No need to wait its called Falcon 4.0-AF.  MS does not have the flight dynamics to do much more then enter the mid to high transonic area, early 1950's jets like Korean war vintage.  You can only stretch Cessna 150 flight dynamic so far.

 
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Reply #18 - Sep 17th, 2006 at 7:03pm

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Boy I thought this was going to be a discussion on CFS4 not about CFS3!

First of all you do not have the proper scenery to do a Dottle Raid properly.

You do not have the proper carrier call Hornet nor sufficient planes to really mimic the Pacific Theater or the desire by your comminitty to build a project to include the Pacific Theater in CFS3.

Your comment on CFS3 about out selling IL-2 at the out set is true but you did not mention is that the Pacific Fighter Merge has out sold and is a more complete flight simulator than CFS3 at this time.

The communitty expected a lot from Microsoft and if you forgot by now is that there was a lot of disappointment with it when it first come on the Market.

No one heard of Oleg or of his product at that time.

I admit it CFS3 has improve a lot since it come out in the market thru all the improvement done by its community  and I like it but its not greatest Combat Sim in the World. Its one of them.

Now lets stay focus on the subject at hand and not distracted our delfs with naked promotions on other Sims.


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Reply #19 - Sep 17th, 2006 at 8:59pm

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Your comment on CFS3 about out selling IL-2 at the out set is true but you did not mention is that the Pacific Fighter Merge has out sold and is a more complete flight simulator than CFS3 at this time.
James007


You must have missed it....there is no CFS4 so there is nothing to talk about except what might have been.  Outside of MS there are only a handful of people who actually know what happened with CFS4 & as far as I remember you & whatshis name were not among them.

I will be sure to tell the guys flying the Doolittle raid mission today that you said they cant do it.  Grin

Sorry James but PF was a failure in sales with less then 50,000 units sold in the US.  But you might want to give Oleg a hit of whatever it is you are smoking as it will surely make him feel better.  Roll Eyes

BTW ever wonder why most of the PF add-on planes like the Petlyakov Pe-2 are ETO, MTO & EF?
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Reply #20 - Sep 17th, 2006 at 10:59pm

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Av wrote:you might want to give Oleg a hit of whatever it is you are smoking as it will surely make him feel better.   

Whatever I"m smoking is real good. It seems to me you need to take some your self. At least I"m not confuse if where talking about CFS3 or about CFS4. I think you are confused on what I'm talking about. I think we where also talking of what we would like to see in the next CFS series since CFS4 was cancel. I believe the original name of this Post was NEW CFS not not what was in CFS4 and why they cancel it. As for Pacific Fighter it is a world wide sold Sim not a US base sim only.

I do not now where you got confuse with CFS3 and the cancel CFS4 program.

As for telling our fellow members who are building the Dolittle mission. I"m sure they would like your support in lobbying other members to developed a Pacific base program with the right sceneries and with more planes dedicated to the Pacific after you have finished the MAW program.

You can tell them that I'm proud of them for trying to simulate this mission as you well know that I like World war two arial Simulation in its totality.

I have only respect for all the members of this forum. Some thing you will never know or understand. I guess if you do not have a good point to make or have some one else point out the truth to you. You only answer is to attack them with nasty comments.

All I can say is CFS1 is a lot of fun to fly with.

James007
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Reply #21 - Sep 18th, 2006 at 1:09am

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I believe the original name of this Post was NEW CFS not not what was in CFS4 and why they cancel it.


I guess some other James 007 must have written this:

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Boy I thought this was going to be a discussion on CFS4 not about CFS3!



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As for Pacific Fighter it is a world wide sold Sim not a US base sim only.
James007


As noted above, your last response was amazingly incoherent even for you, I do believe it actually set a new standard, congratulations.   I can see no real point in trying to unravel it to generate a response.

Its too bad the one thing that was clear has no merit as the PF sales in the US as bad as noted were its high point, it did much worse in the rest of the world & did not break 80,000 units in total.
 
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Reply #22 - Sep 18th, 2006 at 11:09am

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Av concerning CFS4 it was not I but another member who brought it up. It is a legitimate subject if you ask me as spring board to the Future. You run with it explaining what was included in it and so far.

Since CFS4 was cancel I gave my opinion on what I though about it and what I would thought would be best to include in a future Combat flight Simulator.

You know that well.

As for your comment on my previous post:last response was amazingly incoherent even for you.

That another personal negative comment of a fellow member when you have nothing intelligent to say. It was only incoherent to you because you did not like what I wrote.

As the subject at hand. I believe in diversity in everything and that includes Combat flight Sims. Have you Guys notice how popular F9 is and how many members that community has.

One of the reasons is its divesity in planes and Air Lines but most of all its screneries. There are no reason a future Combat Simulator cannot enjoy such a vast diversity as F9 has.

I believe the more diverse and flexible a Sim is the it better it will sell and the more the user will enjoy it.

Its matter of common sense. A Combat flight Simulator should give you the option if you get tire of flying Escort missions of takeoff from a carrier on a different mission on different scenery if you want to or vice versa on the same day.

I think most member would like this kind of option instead of been limited to flying with a few planes against the same enemy in the same scenery if get what I mean.

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Reply #23 - Sep 18th, 2006 at 1:18pm

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It has nothing to do with diversity most people including the major flight sim guys at MS don't like combat sims.  They are quite happy to spend hours doing nothing but flying from point a to point b.

They think you are a barbarian pretending to fly around killing other people.  Post about the glories of simulated air combat on thier forums & see how long you last.

The civilian FS series has out sold the entire combat sim market by 15 or 20 to one.  In the same period that PF sold 50K units in the US FS-9 sold almost 700,000.

That air combat sims don't sell well is a fact of life; deal with it. Because they don't sell well all the major producers have bailed out of the market.

A really mega combat sim hit might sell in the range of 500,000 units.  When it comes to civil vs. military civil wins hands down.

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As for your desire for diversity,  MAW goes from the burning sands of North Africa over the frozen Alps into Germany & Romania spanning 1939 to 1945.

http://www.medairwar.com/maw_mediterranean_air_war_intro.htm

Combatant aircraft include, RAF, RN, USN, USAAC, RAAF, EVA, ADL'A, RNZAF, YVV, ICAF, RCAF, SAAF, FAFL & FAB for the Allies. The Axis includes, RA, ANR, ARR, Luftwaffe, ADL'AV, & BVV

http://www.medairwar.com/maw_opposing_air_forces_page.htm

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These aircraft span aviation history from carrier launched fabric covered bi-planes attacking battleships to Jet & Rocket powered aircraft defending Germany in its last days.

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My group alone has generated in excess of 100 quality aircraft for CFS3.  

http://www.avhistory.org

There are a number of other groups like ground crew & Italian wings that have also generated a large number of not only quality aircraft but also ships from capital ships down to player usable PT boats.

Notice how I can yank your chain & get 3 shameless commercial plugs in at the same time. Thank you for creating that opportunity.
 
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Reply #24 - Sep 18th, 2006 at 2:03pm

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This post has nothing to do with CFS3. As a matter of fact its a forum dedicated to CFS1. The subject has nothing to do with CFS3 but about a question about the Future of the CFS Series.

Now, in another classes act by Av to take the opportunity of been disrespectful to post another advertisement for CFS3 in the wrong forum.

Incredibel

A real new low

Your post belongs in the CFS3 forum

P.S. you are wrong again. Yes, you are right when you said FS9 members do not like Combat flight Simulators. But at same token it would not have had as many members had it been dedicated to a small area of the World with limited planes.

James007
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Reply #25 - Sep 18th, 2006 at 3:14pm

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I'd leave it James.
There were always a few on the 'big-I-am' trip in CFS chat online.
The real players tended to let 'em get on with it there as well.
They were happy to tell anyone who'd listen how important they were to combat flight sim's while people like u and me went off and played 'em.
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Reply #26 - Sep 18th, 2006 at 6:50pm

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Hey, just incase you missed them we just released these ladys & their pet.

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Unlike some other B-17 versions flown in earlier CFS versions these boring B-17's can fight back with player operated guns & drop bombs with a player as the bombardier.  

Since we are talking about what CFS4 might have been they should be of interest as they might have been in the box.  Kiss
 
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Reply #27 - Sep 18th, 2006 at 8:06pm

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Your are right. Let him amuse us with his Screeen shots. Nothing reallychanges after all. His Funny man after all.



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Reply #28 - Sep 18th, 2006 at 8:49pm

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Let him amuse us with his Screeen shots.James007


Instead of just being amused by the screenshots of our planes I would have thought "real Players" Roll Eyes like you & whatshisname would be out doing what "real players" do, being amused by flying them, or was it playing them.  Wink
 
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Reply #29 - Sep 19th, 2006 at 2:55am

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Nice shots, AvHistory; like said, however, this particular forum was developed for the original Combat Flight Simulator. There were other simulations but no other CFS came first. Even CFS3 has some due to CFS1 but I uninstalled it after a few trial runs. Here's an actual CFS1 screenshot (for WW1, to keep the historical perspective to your shots):


SPAD 7
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Fokker D7
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Albatros

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