Simviation Forum - Rip This Pic! / How Would You Do It?

Jul 17^th, 2006 at 9:37pm

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The always photogenic AH Seafire. How would you have taken this pic differently? What do you think are the positive and negative aspects of this screenshot?

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Reply #1 - Jul 17^th, 2006 at 10:09pm

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Hey nice idea Clipper! Here's my two cents worth

The sky is really cool, but I would have tried to brighten that plane up a bit. Some lightning would do the trick, but is tricky to catch, so I would try the under-lighting technique that you posted earlier.
Also, if that shot were by itself, like say in a contest, I would probably have an eye showing as that livery looks a bit strange to me with only a mouth. If it were one in a series however, I'd leave the angle just as it is--they can see the eyes in a different shot.

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Reply #2 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 2:29am

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This brings back memories of when you had another "Rip This Pic!" in freeware, and I did a bit of editing....you remember Clip? Grin

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Reply #3 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 6:40am

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This brings back memories of when you had another "Rip This Pic!" in freeware, and I did a bit of editing....you remember Clip? Grin

I sure do kid..classic freeware moment, i'm still trying to tape the two halves to-gether.. Wink

We have to attack your graphics issue as well C, try to look fo me online and we'll get on TS.

SomeGuy, that's an interesting critique. I would tend to agree with you about the aircraft needing some brightening, seems a bit on the grey and dull side. But doesn't that create a mood in itself? (dull, rainy or grey).

C'mon everyone, don't be shy..let me have it both barrels, let's hear what you really think about this pic and what you would do to improve it..

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Reply #4 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 8:45am

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hi clipper!

uhm... turning the nav and strobe lights on may bring some light. not enough to light up the shot but enough to focuse on the seafire.

I wouldn't change anything to the sky, so far, as it's moody enough. depending on what the shot will become some weather tweaks may be usefull.
then, the angle... I just keep on wondering what the 2 "contrails" are? they bring some sort of perspective, but are also "disturbing". then depending on what they are, the angle could be changed to introduce them in the shot as part of it.
still on the angle side, as the A/C is photogenic why didn't you show more of it, either more of the belly ( tight turn) or more of the wings and cockpit? It would make the shot less "dynamics", but may be more eye 'tractive...

the moon somewhere in the shot...

here are my 2 cents...

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Reply #5 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 9:07am

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For starters, it's a classic dark shot. If find them to be tricky. they work best with a dark background and low-light conditions in the room of the viewer.

The sky is just amazing! Pretty cloudlayers and a dramatic background.

Pity that the whole plane isn't in the picture... the left wing is clipped by the border of the frame.

The position of the plane makes it look powerfull!

Just my 2cents...

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Reply #6 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 9:15am

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I don't really like these dark shots, so i would probably have it slightly lighter (not overtly coulourful dusk dawn etc. but murky) I dont really like the two lines behind the aircraft, and I think the eye of that gorgeous paint needs to be visible. Another option would to be make the plane a silhouette against the lighter cloud, rather than half and half.

Talking of mp Clipper, I can never find you on any more Roll Eyes

.Mic

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Reply #7 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 9:25am

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Any shot that "clips" a part of the aircraft off is a negative in my book!

If it were zoomed out just a hair to get the edge of that left wing in the frame, it would make the composition of the shot much better. It would "balance" the shot better. Sometimes an image like the one below will work well. Even though the right wing is cut off, the center of focus is the pilot, thus creating a well balanced shot. Clip's example shot "cuts off" the tip of the wing leaving the viewer with the feeling of, "That is a nice shot but too bad you did not zoom out just a tiny bit more to get the entire aircraft".

When judging for the winners of the monthly shot, one thing we look for is that shots are balance, images of interest are the "center" of focus and that lighting is correct. A dark shot is usually "passed by" because it does not really "show" much. Yes it may be a real nice shot, but it also needs to provide some sort of impact to the viewers.

Yes this is a nice shot but would most likely not make the finals due to what I mentioned above.

And yes I know you probably know Clip, that is why I am saying so others can use the info. Wink

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Reply #8 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 9:28am

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I agree dave, also considering there's a gap on the other side of the wings, there would be no harm in getting rid of that to fit in the end of the other wing.

.Mic

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Reply #9 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 11:41am

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Now were really warming things up!

Just a note: The clouds are created with PerfectSky, a free add-on for FS9. The method I used here is make a wide layer of cirrus at a density of 7/8ths, place it above your aircraft. Then create a cumulus layer also about 7/8ths density and spread it out so your aircraft appears right in the middle of it in the cloud settings graph. Bingo, a nice mix with some incredible cirrus formations created by PerfectSky. Need a more detailed How To?....just ask!

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Reply #10 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 11:56am

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What I would do is certainly take onboard the advice to find some way of brightening the aircraft Clip, then perhaps lowering some altitude into the clouds so it stands out even better.....of course, leave some open sky at the top of the pic

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Reply #11 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 3:52pm

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Talking of mp Clipper, I can never find you on any more Roll Eyes

.Mic

Actually you did Mic, you did.. Wink

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Reply #12 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 4:00pm

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so you were mcfly were you???

Interesting character too.

Why though clipper....WHY!!!!!

.Mic

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Reply #13 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 7:55pm

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so you were mcfly were you???

Interesting character too.

Why though clipper....WHY!!!!!

.Mic

Who's McFly? ???

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Reply #14 - Jul 19^th, 2006 at 8:17am

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I agree with the above: if one's going to clip off part of the aircraft, Clipper, then clip off a proper chunk. The cirrus is very nice but it's all too dark, and the lower clouds lack body. With so many high quality paints and planes out these days it isn't really necessary to hide the deficiencies any more - because often there aren't any. But all in all, a fine pic.

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