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Reply #30 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 6:31am

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I think the current system is good although we do need more things for higher posters although i do not know what.  Some of the suggested ideas are great so far.
 
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Reply #31 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 8:43am

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Just to play "Devil's Advocate", the number of stars displayed by someone responding to a particular subject, does hold weight(for me)on topics specific to SIMV. The reasons for this would be obvious. I don't think the system needs to be changed at all, but I wouldn't remove it altogether either Ken.

I've resurrected my old nickname to illustrate a point. On this basis you would take more notice of Hagar or Grumpy1 than me. Roll Eyes

Most of the regulars know that we are one & the same person. When asking for help or advice, surely the content of the reply must mean more than the number af posts the author might have? I can usually tell if a person knows what they're talking about & couldn't care less how many stars they have. Anyone can give specific information about themselves in their avatar & signature if they wish to do so.

Like Andrew, Fozzer & a few others I was here long before this board (Ultraboard RIP) & helped Pete check it out on the first day. As Hagar I tend to spend more time in the sim & design forums where people come for help & advice. This was originally the intention of this forum. I've seen the occasional valuable contributions by developers I admire, experts in their field like Dave Eckert, Lee Swordy & Garry J. Smith. I've learned so much from guys like them but all have only one star in this forum. I suspect they & others like them would visit more often if it wasn't for this stupid obsession with number of postings & star ratings. This is one of the reasons for my objection to the whole idea. It's bad enough already, extending it can only make things worse. IMHO
 
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Reply #32 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 11:24am

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I brought this Idea up only for change not "status"I beleive also , that its not the stars that tell who knows what INFO, and  who doe's not know alot of info.. ..I also agree we get to know who ubderstands what in here by time and as we talk to different peoplenot by the stars they get..
I really am sorry that I brought this up..

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Reply #33 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 2:04pm

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I think that Doug_A (alias Hagar....alias Grumpy1-lol) has made an extremely good point.  Sure, all these stars and whatnot are fun and intertaining...but what to they really mean, nothing.  I think that sometimes people tend to listen more to people with 5 stars than those with 1 or 2.  Doug made a great point here, but what one thing he didn't say bluntly, I'll say bluntly.  Look at all us residents, we have 5 stars...yay-but do any of us make a more valuable contribution than someone with 2 stars (ya know, people like this "Doug_A" character with only 60 posts!  Wink).  OK, I do understand that these stars are fun to have and I suppose that we have "earned" them, but I don't think it is neccessary to make more "distance" between people with a lot of posts and people with few.
 
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Reply #34 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 5:24pm

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Since this seems to be missed as a simple point, let me say this....

.........all that the stars signify is whether the member is a long running contributor(whether garbage or not in value isn't of mention) or whether the member is more of a spectator, and reads to his hearts content........end of story.......
.......nowhere,  is anyone defined as being more valuable than anyone else, as in the end we all take what we want from the forums and we all submit what we want to contribute...........

personally, if I want more stars I will make my own avatar full of stars.......hmmmmmmmm
 

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Reply #35 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 6:37pm

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Just taking a moment to reflect........Let's seeeee......Resident.....Resident......Resident.......GoldMember+........Residen
t........Resident.........Resident.......Goldmember+.......Resident.......Reside
nt disguised as Gold member.....Resident.............I feel like a Private that just made a wrong turn into the General's War Room. For a bunch of people that proclaim that "rank is not a sign of tenure or intelligence" you sure seem to have ganged up on the "new guy"! Your point and delivery are well appreciated Doug, but that wasn't the only point I made.
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I don't think the system needs to be changed at all, but I wouldn't remove it altogether either Ken.

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In retrospect, I can see how this could create a problem with "badge collectors".

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I'm not comparing the "star system" to someone's tenure or background OR intelligence

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My suggestion was not a intended as a replacement or enhancement of the current system, but as a "on a similar note...." idea. 

....were ALSO some of the points I made, that seem to have been skipped over. I think I'll stick to the Technical topics in the future.     Pat
 

.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
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Reply #36 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 6:48pm

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Pat. I wasn't criticising or trying to pull rank. I quoted part of your reply to make my own point. I didn't think it necessary to quote the complete thing or comment on it. It's always surprised me just how seriously some people take this rank business, that's all.

I'm an old misery guts & never saw the point of changing anything simply for the sake of it. I have better things to think about than the number of stars anyone has or what colour they might be. I'm sure Pete has far more important stuff to worry him too.
These are simply my opinions & I don't expect too many people to agree with me. LOL  Wink
 

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Reply #37 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 7:27pm

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I agree, and the point you were making was perfectly illustrated(I didn't even regard the number of Stars(AT FIRST GLANCE)). Which, now as I type this really brings out another point. Most of the time I just read the text, and then if I find the response funny, or interesting, or questionable, I may sctutinize the author more closely. With the exception being Fozzer, I can always spot his handywork! Cheesy Ultimately going back to where I started, I never had any complaints about the existing system, and your probably right, efforts concentrated on more important items would be better spent. It took me two weeks to figure out how to change my Avitar, I can't even imagine what an undertaking it must be to maintain and modify this entire site!  Embarrassed     Pat Wink
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.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
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Reply #38 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 7:32pm

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I suppose somewhere in the image folder there must be a gold star - I'd have to chaneg that.....

Any volunteers to create alternatives??  Cheesy

In reality  - I know it's just you guys messing with ideas  Grin Grin Grin

Now how about turning some of that creative energy towards FS!!!!!   8) Kiss Grin Cheesy Wink Smiley

NOW AS PETE WROTE ."In reality  - I know it's just you guys messing with ideas". AND I AM SAYING THIS WAS ALL IN FUN, JUST TO SEE WHAT IDEAS EVERYONE WOULD COME UP WITH..  NO BODY WINS OR LOSES HERE FOLKS....
 

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Reply #39 - Sep 9th, 2003 at 12:53am

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Just as a side note, my recent change of Avatar does not coincide with this thread. Embarrassed Roll Eyes   
<<<<<<-------------------(((((  Roll Eyes
 

.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
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Reply #40 - Oct 12th, 2003 at 12:47am

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   Hey guys if you shoot  peoples ideas down
   they won't want to contribute. "Young minds new
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Reply #41 - Oct 13th, 2003 at 11:54pm

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   Hey guys if you shoot  peoples ideas down
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This whole thread is not about shooting down someones idea.  It is a free and frank exchange of views.  Some people think it is a great idea, others don't.  All who have an opinion have posted it and we are all still friends.  Why resurrect the thread and imply that residents are ganging up on newer members?

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Reply #42 - Oct 14th, 2003 at 2:50pm

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Why oh why is this such an issue?

My view - the server simply logs the number of posts, for some other daft/stupid/logical (delete as applicable) reason.

I could'nt give a hoot how many stars a poster may have, theres more than a few in here who simply post for the sake of it - "it" being the number of posts.... Roll Eyes

If somebody wants to give me green stars animated images etc for posting then thats fine by me.

If on the other hand, I did'nt know how many posts I'd ever made, I doubt the experience of these forums would change for me at all.

All I've done today is use my Battlefield1942 "name".

Otherwise, there'd be a truck reference in this post somewhere of other............ Wink
 

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Reply #43 - Oct 14th, 2003 at 3:26pm

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Considering that, except for the last three postings, no one had touched this thread for almost a month; I wouldn't consider it an issue.  It was a subject that came up, was debated, and eventually petered out.  Why make a big deal of it now?  Kiss
 

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Reply #44 - Oct 14th, 2003 at 4:46pm

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Considering that, except for the last three postings, no one had touched this thread for almost a month; I wouldn't consider it an issue.  It was a subject that came up, was debated, and eventually petered out.  Why make a big deal of it now?  Kiss


Simple Pippin.

Some of us are not on-line at home etc etc and thus, may only get patchy internet access.

I'm in this camp. I only visit here when I'm at a friends house or using a pc at work.
I work away from home most of the time and some weekends I won't go near a PC and thus no where near the net or SimV for upto months at a time, depending where in the U.K. or europe I may be....  Sad

Thus, if I see a topic that interests me (and it may be months old) I'll add to it, ok, it may get bumped up the board temporarily, but, if indeed it's already old and petered out I'm sure it'll die down again. This thread is the biggest on the page at the moment (42 posts I think) - hardly surprising, somebody like me comes along after some period of absence and reads, then replys to the hottest thread! 

This forum to my knowledge has'nt got any rules on replying to old posts, and it would be rather sad if it did IMHO.

Or am I just wrong  ???
 

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