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Jun 24th, 2003 at 5:39pm

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I know the other sites hold these contests as well, but I don't frequent them often.  Do you think Simviation should host such a contest? I think that Pete could easily get some of the site sponsors to donate prizes for the winner(s) (top 3 shots)... What do you think?
 

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Reply #1 - Jun 24th, 2003 at 6:30pm

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Who needs prizes?

Just the honour of having the title "Best Screenshot" should be enough for most surely?
 

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Reply #2 - Jun 24th, 2003 at 6:39pm

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That is very true, but of course there has to be some incentive because not everyone has the same outlook as you and I.
 

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Reply #3 - Jun 24th, 2003 at 7:34pm

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Yes it's a good idea but 

1. you've put me right off by telling me other sites do this ...  Grin

2. who's gonna run it?  Roll Eyes


You'd be surprised how much work is involved for little actual gain.... Getting prizes would be no problem (I've ignored offers for years now of free gifts for promotion) but the main thing is :

What software do we use to display the shots?
How are they judged & by who?

The one screenshot contest we did have on the suggestion of MS drew in the small minded people from the FS world we don't normally (thank god) see round here - the types who take it all too seriously & bicker about this & that .... At least this time I could think of a filter to try to keep those people out - like being regular on these forums for instance ...  8)

Maybe we  could run it on this forum - One shot. Anyone caught voting twice banned, only 50 entries ...  winner gets a weekend trip to Fort McMurray, Alberta  .....  Grin

Seriously though - it's a good idea .....


 

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Reply #4 - Jun 25th, 2003 at 1:34am

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And Ramsa would win every time! Grin Grin
 
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Reply #5 - Jun 25th, 2003 at 1:46am
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This would be a contest to see
who had the best equipment,
My screen shots suck, I most
lilely have the worst computor
on the forum, and because of
personal problems I'm stuck
with it, but glad I have something!!
I would enjoy seeing the shots and
would be interested in judging, as I
have worked in photography for
many year and don't have any friends
on the forums, so I would be fair!!

X


 
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Reply #6 - Jun 25th, 2003 at 4:19pm

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Ramsa wouldn't nessacerily win every time. I think that a screenshot should be judged on the content and not the quality. While ramsa's shots are certainly good quality they lack imagination with the content. So every one has a chance.
 

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Reply #7 - Jun 25th, 2003 at 4:30pm

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I think it is a great idea but there are many problems with this like Pete said.

I posted the thread "Are you a regular at the Gallery" to see who was really attending these graphic forums. I see alot of regulars and some who just pop in and I was wondering how much the Graphic end of FS2K2 appeals to everybody.
The quality of work in these forums ranges from, let's say "minimal" to "almost photographic".
Some of us are pros, some just like the "pictures" and others are just learning to "master" their talents.

Like Andrew said,
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Posted by: Andrew N.P. Esselbach Posted on: Today at 1:34am
And Ramsa would win every time!    
HEY....I resent that comment !!  LOL  LOL   Grin There are a few people who are very consistant and almost 1 out of every picture in their posts could "win".

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Posted by: pete Posted on: Jun 24th, 2003, 7:34pm
The one screenshot contest we did have on the suggestion of MS drew in the small minded people from the FS world we don't normally (thank god) see round here
I like and respect those of us at SimV who are regulars to the gallery. We have come to know each other pretty well and respect each others comments and constructive critisism. I agree with what Pete said...all of a sudden it will be flooded with guests who let's say, are not "as nice" as we are to each other!!

Cool idea BE58D, but I get all my gratification from seeing what all my "freinds" in the forum say about shots I post.

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Posted by: visitor;AKA:X Posted on: Today at 1:46am
I don't have any friends
on the forums, so I would be fair!!
X  
Well X, if that is what you think...............then who are we? You seem to be having alot of fun here since you joined................and usually you have fun with freinds,....right?
It took me a while to actually start calling this band of nutty aviation freaks "my freinds" also....Eventually you come around!

Dave 8)

PS. If we did do any type of contest....I think that it should involve only members of SimV!!!  The winner gets an all inclusive trip to spend a weekend at Ozzy's flat, drinking, partying and cleaning his Spitfires!!!   Grin
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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2003 at 6:54pm

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It was an idea.  But, Pete... how they are judged would be based on realism (while possible... you don't seem a 737 doing a victory roll prior to landing to salute the safe return home), content (Woodlouse thank you) and quality.  

Who would run it? I had offered previously to do work for Simviation, but was denied... there were already moderators, and the one review I did do... was never published.

Who would judge it and who could enter? Simviation only members.  One screenshot per member (that means, no creating multiple member accounts people) with a limit of 50 entries and maybe the size could be reduced to 500 x 375 (this number is based on an aspect ratio of 1:1.33 using Paint Shop Pro 7).

Fly2e for those that register simply to compete... If they are not nice to us, they could simply be banned and forfit their prize (if they win).  In addition, some peoples egos (we have seen it) are overfed as it is... So, those of us looking for friendly competition... it is just that, a friendly competition.  So those with obese egos are going to have them no matter what you do, say, think... They will always have them.

And Pete, I know other sites have them and you don't want this site to be like all the others... believe me, it never will be... this is my home away from (even though I am typing this at home... how ironic).  This is the best Flight Sim site there is, and always will be the others could never compete with SimV, even if they gave away free cruises to the Bahama's to everyone that registered with their site!
 

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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2003 at 10:58pm
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quote:Posted by: visitor;AKA:X Posted on: Today at 1:46am  
I don't have any friends  
on the forums, so I would be fair!!  
X  


Well X, if that is what you think...............then who are we? You seem to be having alot of fun here since you joined................and usually you have fun with freinds,....right?
It took me a while to actually start calling this band of nutty aviation freaks "my freinds" also....Eventually you come around!



What I ment was, I only know the people on the
forums, from being on the forums and not through
personel contact!! And would be a fair person to
judge the pics,
     
I beleive a good way to do this would be have the
shots sent to three judges and let them pick the
top 10 and post them All would be same size and
resol. 800X600-16 90/110k, and in raw and edited
classes, and a newbie class, persons under 50
posts, and all others open to members only, the
judges could weed those out!!
as for the prize, a fancy thingie to put in your
signiture box!!

X
 
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Reply #10 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 2:53am

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Ramsa wouldn't nessacerily win every time. I think that a screenshot should be judged on the content and not the quality. While ramsa's shots are certainly good quality they lack imagination with the content. So every one has a chance.

Thank you!  Finally!  Not to put anyone down, but I find it so ridiculous when people go to the screenshots board and type it "Wow, your pictures are awesome!" just because the plane is pretty.  I find most of these shots are just a good plane, and the person didn't do anything to make it a good picture, all they did was load the plane up and, 'print screen', paste.  Done, bow down in the aura of my ego!  Sorry, but the 'clique' at the screenshots board really... "steams" me. Tongue
 

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Reply #11 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 4:55am

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why not make this a part of the possible pay option Pete? from what i have seen there are pleanty of takers for that option so you could make a new section where only those who pay can get in, that way you keep out those who arnt serious about it.
 
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Reply #12 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 8:51am

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And Ramsa would win every time! Grin Grin

yah him, ansmara and joker would be the most common winners probably


btw i voted yes Wink
 

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Reply #13 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 1:45pm

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I had offered previously to do work for Simviation, but was denied... there were already moderators, and the one review I did do... was never published.


I'm sincerely sorry about this B58. You have been one of many people who have offered to help out & been (accidentally) ignored. I certainly still have that review somewhere - probably with a few more.

It all boils down to me being regularly overwhelmed with stuff to do - this & real life stuff. Things get forgotted & missed. An old friend from years ago wrote to me a week ago & you know - I still haven't even written back to him. I keep remembering then it skips my mind when I'm at my PC......

I would dearly like a partner in all this .... maybe I should get my act together & try to find one....

Sorry for going off topic here but I hate letting people down.

As for the screenshots - I think we should do it. I think the above ideas are right on course & we should run it from the forums - not from the main site.
It is inevitable that those with good machines stand a definite advantage - but that's no reason not to accept that & see it as another form of entertainment for all of us.

So now: We need to finalise a method & get a few people involved in administering & find a way to judge.
The last one had 100's of participants & that was far too much. I think we need to draw the line at say - 50 - one shot each & any cheaters will be severely humiliated in public  Grin

Let's do it ... & I think prizes are secondary..... (they are all just advertising anyways ... )
 

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Reply #14 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 1:56pm

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As I said I think that quality should not be taken into consideration when judging. If quality is judged then it is unfair to those with less powerful computers and unimaginative imberseils with super computer will win every time. So when judging commences do it by content and the imagination used in the shot.
 

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