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This isnt a job. Like you said, its a hobby  . In a real job, my efforts would help a certain company prosper and succeed. Payware designers take advantage of the fact that people will actually buy the add-on and so they will find it rather convenient to earn money the easy way. I hope the older verisions of FSUIPC will work in FS2004, or like i said, sites like these will have problems holding up. But as i stated maybe when people realize they arent gonna waste all their money on these virtual addons there will be less consumers of payware and therefore the number of payware procuts will decrease in number. Anyhow we will always have the 'pure' freeware designers like Mel and the Ground Crew boys. I guess if i really want an aircraft badly, ill resort to designing one myself..

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I stated for the person playing the game it's a hobby, not for the designer who has gone payware. Then it makes him a job. In your job you are providing a service for an outsourced provider. These payware designers are doing the samething. They are providing software that offers more than the default/freeware files that are offered.

I don't see how they are taking advantage of anyone as they aren't forcing us to purchase these addons?

Look at Abacus, they continue to release crap. I for one have stopped purchasing from them because of that and warn people of my money wasted on their product. yet Lago, FSGenesis and Lago has been money well spent by me. It adds to my enjoyment of MS2002 and hopefully 2004.

The people whinning seem to think it's so easy to put out "QUALITY" airfiles. If this was the case you would see alot more. I'll be waiting for your first release to let me know how easy it really is?

I for one don't want to learn so I have no worries purchasing quality product. There are people out there with talents I don't have and I thank them for that.

Good Luck Oz 

Here's my 2 pence worth...

I think Pete Dowson has done a great service to the flight sim community with FSUIPC. It's allowed designers to do many, many things that would otherwise not have been possible. I think it's great that he released them as freeware. I am upset however, that he's chosen to go the payware route. I don't think it's wrong - it's his prerogative after all - just a little dissapointed. Dissapointed in the same way I am whenever I see previously freeware outfits go the payware route.

I guess everyone moves on. As someone else her said, perhaps personal circumstances have 'forced' Pete into this. The fact remains that as more developers go to the 'Dark Side', another young gun will be more than happy to fill their freeware shoes.

There is an immense wealth of talent in this community, and rest assured that someone, somewhere will develop an alternative sooner or later.

As with any payware product, it should be our right 'not to buy'. Case in point - Abacus. Planespotter said they continue to release crap. Well fair enough, no-one is making you buy it - so don't. But, before you bash Abacus too much, remember that they produce a trio of programs without which (up until the realease of the gMax gamepack anyway), we would all have been flying the deafualt planes, with very few exceptions.

Anyways, like I said, just my 2 pence worth...

Ric B.

If you want to be able to buy payware make payware....
simple. you get what you put in. but then again simviation is the same put in a free plane get out free planes. whatever... things are changeing... unfortunantly

Also you can still Dl FSuipc on simviation... i did like 4 days ago

Making payware is just fine. However, what irks me is when they make freeware and then change their minds. (like ArrCab) Newcomers have to buy these programs, while listening to the rest of us gloat about getting it when it was free. As for COF and FSUIPC, i guess i'll be doing all my carrier landings in FS2002.

Hi Dread....!

Thanks for the link. Usefull reading... ...!
I regularly get E-Mails from the "simFlight Network" regarding programs for sale, (LAGO, etc,), so hopefully they will keep me up-to-date with FSUIPC, we need it for our weather programs, at least!

Cheers mate... ...!
Paul.
(England).