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Reply #45 - Oct 19th, 2002 at 4:57am

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But then there would be compatability problems with the other SDF equipment (Mostly US, EU, or JP stuff) so I guess they ruled it out quite early.

Although I agree the Su series are a real bargain.....
 

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Reply #46 - Oct 19th, 2002 at 1:27pm

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did you notice that the in the second pic the plane only has 1 engine?

 

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Reply #47 - Oct 19th, 2002 at 3:19pm

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Thats a real shame I really like the look of that J-10 it is actually got alot more difference from the ef-2000 I love them both now.
 
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Reply #48 - Oct 19th, 2002 at 4:49pm

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why do love the look of the J-10?
the J-10 is a complete copy of the Lavi, beside the avionic. it was built by the Lavi model and with soviet technology.
he is allso craying some Phyton-3 misslles on his wings.
thats is a prove that Israel does sell China weopons.
it's really make me angry that China will have the Lavi (allmost the Lavi) and Israel that designed him don't.
by the way i'n doing pretty well with Gmax, and i believe that within 3-5 months i will control Gmax pretty well.
 
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Reply #49 - Oct 19th, 2002 at 6:06pm

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What? the j-10 looks nothing like the lavi and I'm sure its ariel statistics and flight dynamics are differen't to I want all the planes on this forum post and I do not favour any of them over each other.
 
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Reply #50 - Oct 21st, 2002 at 3:18pm

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Does anyone know where can i find a Full Gmax tutorial, that also teach how to texture your Gmax model?.
The ONLY reosen that i'm learning how to do all this $hit is because i want Lavi in my design, if not that, i was never learning. Thats is really hard stuff Tongue.
I started to make the Lavi's wings and i have some pics of them, so i want it to Photorealistic, but i don't know how do i match the texture with the wanted part of the model. so i nead a Texturing tutorial for Gmax. not REpainting, because I already know that.
 
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Reply #51 - Oct 22nd, 2002 at 4:28pm

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Hallo? does anyone got an answer for me? i guess that somewhere there is a Texture and FS2002 NAMING and importing the Gmax model to FS2002 tutorial. but where the hell is it?
 
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Reply #52 - Oct 28th, 2002 at 8:30am

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Well come on!
what do i have to do for you to answer me?
if there is no tutorial, say so, and if there is you will next hear from me when i will finish him!
 
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Reply #53 - Oct 29th, 2002 at 6:36pm

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NO THERE ARE NOT ANY TUTORIALS THEY KNOW OF! STOP ASKING!!!!!!!!


jees, i just had to get that out of me
 

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Reply #54 - Oct 29th, 2002 at 7:42pm

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EREZ, IM LO TISHOTK ANI EFTACH LECHA ET ATACHAT!!



can anyone just lock this topic... it's bugging me to put it kindly... much off the stuff is off-topic and has been answered about 10 times in this post already.
 

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Reply #55 - Oct 29th, 2002 at 7:44pm

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Quote:
did you notice that the in the second pic the plane only has 1 engine?



yea just did Wink, thanx for pointing it out.
it's kinda cool and weird
 

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Reply #56 - Oct 29th, 2002 at 11:07pm

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Ok everyone calm down here dudes.

Lets put things into order shall we?  Grin Yes it will be a bit long but at least everything will be clear after that.

As asnamara said before - Erez, we will start working on the Lavi soon - so relax, sit back and wait!!

As an Israeli I know a lot of people in the military business. My girlfriend's father was one of the Lavi designers so I know quite a lot about it! Her father told me that the shape of the plane was not meant to be a brakethrough, it was based on various Aerdynamics technologies. The real deal with the LAVI he said, was the avionics suit or basically the technology inside the plane that was supposed to be done with a joint effort with the very experienced top Israeli Military companies.

It is hard to tell wether the LAVI could have been better than this or that but I believe that with the super high aircraft technology that exist nowadays in Israel the LAVI could have had one of the best avionics suits in the world, it was also meant to carry the Israeli PYTH-4, the most advanced air to air missile that exists nowadays.

About the magazine Erez is reading  Tongue - I read the same thing. Basically it says there that the F-2 is a great plane but no one is sure if the amount of money that was spent and will be spent is actually worth it. It was also said that F-16 block 60 Destert Falcon and The F-16I Suefa are going to be more advanced and cheaper by a half!!! Make your own conclusions . . .

About the J-10 stuff. From what I read and know I understood that Israel might have sold some aircraft technology to China to help with the J-10 production . . . TRUE Or NOT? what's for sure is that MAYBE!  Grin  Grin  Grin

And last thing - to Wolf about the production of the LAVI.
Yes! The LAVI production was mainly stoped due to American pressure, the Americans wanted and still wants Israel to be dependent on them. Another reason is that the Americans did not want to have any competitors in the fighter jets market because after all the LAVI was supposed to be significantly cheaper than the F-16. It is unique to mention that right after Israel stopped the production of the LAVI the US supplied 100 F-16's to Israel at a low price . . . mmmmm . . . . Sounds very clear now.

Hope you liked my speech, and did not fell asleep in the middle of it . . . Any comments are more than welcome!!  Wink
Please do not lock this topic, there is nothing wrong with it and it is actually very intresting, after all many users contribute to the argument   Cheesy

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Reply #57 - Oct 29th, 2002 at 11:09pm

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nice speach, but *YAAAWWWWNNNN* time for me to hit the sack  Wink
 

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Reply #58 - Oct 30th, 2002 at 9:08am

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FORGET IT!!!!!
I am not going to talk about the Lavi any more!!!
in fact i think i might delete the topic!
because i respect Simviation and it's forums, i won't go mad.
good bye falks.
see ya in a year. Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

the sun set down on me and the Lavi.
P.S: if there is NO tutorial than say it and don't let me wait so i won't have to ask so much! Angry
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tragic end..... don't you think?
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Reply #59 - Oct 30th, 2002 at 11:55am

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very glad to hear that you will be making the LAVI even if it is after a wait. Don't suppose that the J-10 has a chance once the LAVi is done? I'm only saying this because then I'll have the Eurofighter the LAVI and the J-10 all georgeous looking aircraft.
 
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