A short grounding is better than a several hundred million dollar lawsuit should one be lost due to a technical failure, such as a mid atlantic/pacific in flight fire.

Yep! at least they nipped this one in the butt before anyone got killed.

It's good they didn't let money get in the way of the publics safety for
a change. Things are looking up.

I wonder how things are going on that whole "Stress Crack" thing?

wahubna wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 6:23pm:


boeing has always been safty first. you dont build planes without that in the forefront.

and as far as the coverup BS. i dont believe that. sound like a union planted farce. as far as the issues with the problems, yes, there are kinks and bugs in the system you HUNT for. i would not be surprised that the union created the hidden problems in retailation against boeing moving a plant to a right to work state.

Barkingdog wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 6:52pm:



The FAA is accusing Boeing of putting production ahead of safety. I am just repeated what I hear and telling what I have seen.

I should note too that my sources are NON union 


One last bit about Boeing always being concerned with safety, I draw your attention to this:
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/boeing_part_defective_f15_longeron_inflight...

Something is not right at Boeing lately 

wahubna wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 7:50pm:


This does not surprise me at all. Boeing have an across the board quality problem at the moment. You would not believe what snags we see on brand new 737 deliveries. We are not talking about small stuff either. For example, I was doing a large check on a customer aircraft this last week. I got called over to take a look at a problem. The person doing a particular check wanted to have his sanity checked just to make sure it was Boeing and not him. In an important bit of structure it was found that 15 Hi-Lock fasteners were missing. They had been overlooked during production. The quality of individual components, you can really tell they are the cheapest of three bids. With engine bleed, duct splits between engines (pressure differences out of limits), they are so bad, we are convinced that Boeing are now installing this snag as a standard fit on the production line.......The number of AD's a SB's that have been released for the 737 just recently has really gone up. One involving the elevator and the elevator trim tab, a problem due to cheap materials is so bad, that Boeing states that if the check is not done properly and repeated at set intervals even after modification to check for component failure and wear, then tail plane flutter could occur resulting in catastrophic damage and loss of the aircraft. The 787 is the least of Boings problems at the moment.

Matt

I just cancelled my flight to the Caymans. Me and the wife will be swimming there. 

It may be that boeing is not being dishonest in there claims of quality over
quantity. I meen, come on, they're not murders and they sure as hell don't want
to loose all they've worked for all these years.

I think they need to take a long hard look at the workers on the line. like they say
"Your Only As Good As Your Weakest Link"

If you are not 110% obsessed with your own quality and workmanship, then you
have NO damn business being on the any aircraft production line.

The only other production line I can think of that's this important is submarines. No
room for error! Why do submarines have a much better safety record? because the
line workers are military trained to be obsessed with there own quality and workman-
ship

They can weed out alot of these week links by focusing on the outside contractors.
I think that's a huge problem. 

BrandonF wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 11:33pm:


That goes for the vast majority of aircraft and the components. Boeing, like others only built the main structure. Any part that has been bolted/screwed/hung onto the structure is more than likely third party and..................The cheapest of three bids......

Matt

BLAZE wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 10:43pm:


BINGO! Very well said!

At WACO, we all are very much obsessed with our work. Yeah there are some different personalities, but we love what we do.

C,
yeah, I at first did not have the brackets but then thought of the Mossie and Lancaster...whoops!