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Lucid Lettering.... (Read 1210 times)
Jan 5
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, 2013 at 5:00am
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I was sat in my toilet this morning, (a forced regular habit nowadays), with my bum firmly welded to the freezing cold plastic seat, surrounded by all sorts of technical instruction manuals, (the sort of thing which every warm-blooded male stores in the toilet), and as I browsed through the various manuals of some of my electronic music keyboards, motorcycle manuals, etc, I was wondering, (as I do on such important occasions), with all the different keyboards, etc, exported from Japan to many other countries throughout the world, with its many different languages; does each country have its imported keyboards, etc, inscribed and programmed with its own language?
Would a keyboard user in Outer Mongolia have his/her synthesizer/electric piano, etc, inscribed in Outer Mongolian, and the Chinese user observe the lettering on the front of the keyboard to be in painted brush strokes, and would Egyptian enthusiasts observe the letting on the front of their instruments to be inscribed in Hieroglyphics....?
..and what about the Arabs?
Or are all keyboards etc, lettered in English...and everyone else has to grin and bear it....and learn English...
...!
I get so used to every piece of apparatus that I purchase being inscribed in English, that I take it for granted that everyone else receives the same identical equipment?....
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So what do you reckon...Sim V Chums from non-English-speaking countries..(the USA, Outer Mongolia, etc)?...
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Paul.....the ever curious!...
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Jan 5
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, 2013 at 8:25am
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Well, I have become a self styled expert, more or less, on keyboards over the past years, but this is an unusual slant on keyboard stuff.
My take is that it would not be cost efficient for keyboard mfgrs to use various logo lettering. So, for ex., "Yamaha" is Yamaha everywhere.
So let's go to Yamaha's website and see. If you select, for ex., Thailand, you'll see photos of Yamaha keyboards and pianos with "Yamaha" on them. Interestingly enough, in the Thailand section, some descriptions are also in English. And even in Japan the Yamaha logo is ever-present.
Any post-logo artwork would have to be customized. Including Hieroglyphics.
Other than cost considerations, the word "Yamaha" is visually easy to recognize even if a language uses other then the Roman alphabet.
And now that I think of it, it's not just cost considerations, but the overall impracticallity of different language logos. Keyboards go through changes like computers do, just not as fast, so what's available today may not be built tomorrow. Mfgrs cannot exactly predict sales, therefore cannot tell what will be sold in what country.
Yep, all those accounting and music lessons finally paid off.
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Jan 5
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Hello Apex...
My reasoning in the post, was the various letters and words/descriptions appearing above the various keys, etc on the imported keyboards from Japan...or even England !
eg: Utility, Pattern, Menu, Category, Transpose, Strings, Brass, Start/Stop, et al....all the wording on the front of the keyboard...?
These words would not appear in Arabic, Chinese, Russian, etc script...
Would little Muhammed from a small town in Saudi Arabia recognise the word "Arpeggio" on his new Yamaha/Roland/Korg music keyboard!
Paul...
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Jan 5
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, 2013 at 12:31pm
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Oh, that stuff. Logically I guess that would have to be in the user's language. Not sure there's any way to find out.
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Jan 6
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Fozzer wrote
on Jan 5
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, 2013 at 5:00am:
...(the sort of thing which every warm-blooded male stores in the toilet)...
Thank you for insinuating that many of us are not warm-blooded; there is nothing 'stored' in my toilet (what's put in gets flushed -- including a couple quarts of my blood last month) and the only occasional thing of musical note is quite cacaphonic with a certain foul aromatic air about it.
As to "Arpeggio" (and crescendo, etc.), I believe this is sourced from Italian during the Classical Age.
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Jan 6
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, 2013 at 6:36am
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Apex wrote
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th
, 2013 at 12:31pm:
Oh, that stuff. Logically I guess that would have to be in the user's language. Not sure there's any way to find out.
Alex (Alrot) might know...
If he purchased a music Keyboard/Synthesizer in his home country of Venezuela, would all the text on the front of the keyboard be in printed in Venezuelan...(or English)?
Paul....
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Arpeggios: A sequence of patterns of notes, repeating as required.
One of my Music Synthesizers is equipped with 213 different arpeggio patterns, which can be selected at the press of a button on the front of the keyboard.
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Jan 6
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Fozzer wrote
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, 2013 at 6:36am:
Apex wrote
on Jan 5
th
, 2013 at 12:31pm:
Oh, that stuff. Logically I guess that would have to be in the user's language. Not sure there's any way to find out.
Alex (Alrot) might know...
If he purchased a music Keyboard/Synthesizer in his home country of Venezuela, would all the text on the front of the keyboard be in printed in Venezuelan...(or English)?
Paul....
...!
Arpeggios: A sequence of patterns of notes, repeating as required.
One of my Music Synthesizers is equipped with 213 different arpeggio patterns, which can be selected at the press of a button on the front of the keyboard.
I think this should answer your question. Run your mouse cursor over the photo.
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Jan 6
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Another reason why all countries in the world appear to have to be fluent in reading and understanding; "English"....
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Even Japanese manufactured instruments, (Yamaha/Roland/Korg,etc) purchased by the Japanese, in Japan!
Interesting!
Paul...Its nice to be..."English". I can understand all my Keyboards!....
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Jan 6
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Fozzer wrote
on Jan 6
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Another reason why all countries in the world appear to have to be fluent in reading and understanding; "English"....
...!
Even Japanese manufactured instruments, (Yamaha/Roland/Korg,etc) purchased by the Japanese, in Japan!
Interesting!
Not in Japan.
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Jan 6
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, 2013 at 8:04am
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Blimey...
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Half and half!...
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Internal programming in English: Grand Pno...."Grand Piano"...Strs... "Strings", etc...!
External Markings> MIDI In MIDI OUT, etc...
Must be confusing!
Paul....A bit like me trying to understand Russian Aircraft Instrument Panels!
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Jan 6
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my language is Spanish ,but everything here come in English just like the 001 Granpno sound of Yamaha , the 99.0% of all electronic device's around here the menu comes in English ,TV, Blackberry cellphone, Blue ray everything comes in English..and even its manual instructions
I bought recently another Piano ( a better one) also Yamaha I use a keyboard only as a Piano sound only ,I don't use styles rithms or electronics organs
so yes ,just like the pics ( the E223 was also my first one) come just like that in English
Let me try to explain myself English Its like a second language, but hey! this is strange people does not speak it or write it like I do as far as I know I'm the only one I know around who set my direct TV decoder into English without subtitles and capable to write it in a certain forum
(except for the movie Social Network how ever I switch it into Spanish and didn't understand it either the infinitive amount of dialogues by minute of this film
)
this is a really strange place ,everyone imitates American ,most of the Malls are named
Shopping Center ,Drug Store , Pharmacy ,Travel Agency
they name things in English because it sounds cool to them ,they wish to speak and know English ,But at the same time there is a hate seed it by a crazy lider around ,while people hates American they are driving all American cars ,wearing jeans Cowboy boots ,if you go to the movies all the movies are made in Hollywood
and due to a lot of Ignorant around here ,many thinks that UK ,Canada and USA is a single same country
I made a strong efford to paid my directv and internet service ,but both are the only thing that keeps me away from the real ugly truth of this place
Alex
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Jan 6
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, 2013 at 5:34pm
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Ta for the explanation, Alex!
I've often wondered how folks in far away countries cope with various electronic devices lettered in English, when it is not their natural language!
I would have great difficulties understanding my many programmable synthesizers with all their front panels lettered in Russian!
Paul....
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