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Dec 13th, 2012 at 4:38pm

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I recently downloaded the V3 Piaggio P-180 from here that was released this year.  Its a great plane.  I am amazed by the FDE and detail.  I have a couple of glitches I am trying to work out and wonder if anyone else has made more progress than I.

1.  TCAS--I can get the system to test okay, but not function.  I have read the README files over and don't find the FSX instructions anywhere.

2.  Engine Fires--I have turned the failures selections off and still occasionally get high oil temp, that progresses to high oil pressure, then eventually a engine fire.......very strange.  Never had this issue with any other turbo prop plane in FSX.

Would love to chat with other pilots about this plane if there are any resident experts out there.

Thanks!
 

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Reply #1 - Dec 13th, 2012 at 7:52pm

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Perhaps you are overtorquing the engines as you climb?  I have this aircraft, but have not spent enough time with it to know if it is programmed enough to require real engine management to prevent failures, like some higher quality aircraft are.  What little turbine time I have had, I learned to monitor torque and ITT temps during climb, and use the climb power chart to prevent overtorque.  We found that usually an ITT of 750 produced the desired torque settings, at least in the TBM.
 
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Reply #2 - Dec 13th, 2012 at 9:24pm

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@DaveSims--Thanks for the reply.  Its strange.  I almost wonder if it occurs on startup.  I had a similar issue with the Pilatus PC-12 from AFG.  When I started it, the engines often ran at high RPM's right after starting.  It turned out I was introducing the fuel at the wrong time.  With the P-180 I have tried cranking the engine, then turning on the fuel and it doesn't seem to change the outcome.

My issue has always been with one of the two engines.  If I was overtorquing I would assume both engines would have issue......I don't know.

I will keep testing and flying and report back if I find any changes.

Thanks!
 

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Reply #3 - Dec 14th, 2012 at 6:54am

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When are you introducing fuel during start?  Depending on the engine, you usually introduce fuel at 10-20% N1 or some other reference.
 
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Reply #4 - Dec 14th, 2012 at 11:51am

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DaveSims wrote on Dec 14th, 2012 at 6:54am:
When are you introducing fuel during start?  Depending on the engine, you usually introduce fuel at 10-20% N1 or some other reference.


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Reply #5 - Dec 20th, 2012 at 12:28pm

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So one issue is figured out.  I thought my condition levers were in the cut off position on start but they wern't, causing the engines to overspeed on startup.  Its impossible to move them to cut off in the VC and has to be done in the 2D panel.  This caused them to develop a very high oil pressure and oil temp causing problems later on in flight.

I am still trying to figure out the TCAS and GPS.  The TCAS will test but do nothing other than that.  I have read, and re-read the manual.  Nothing.  The VC GPS is cluttered with NDB and intersections.  Cant figure out how to clean it up.

On a side note.  Anyone who likes turbo props and detailed VC's should check out this freeware.  Its one of the best I have found so far!
 

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Reply #6 - Jan 9th, 2013 at 5:38pm

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There is now an update to this:

http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=MN_P180_V31UPD_FSX.zip&x=13&y=9

It may address some of your questions?
 

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