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Reply #15 - Nov 6th, 2012 at 4:21pm

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Mictheslik wrote on Nov 6th, 2012 at 4:13pm:
I have gone against the opinion of my instructor a couple of times. At the end of the day if I'm in control I won't do something that I don't feel comfortable doing. Landing long at EGGP is a bit different to planting it down a couple of hundred feet short of the runway. The displaced threshold isn't available landing distance.


That was an example, not a comparison! Wink Solo, as opposed to dual, brings a different perspective too, pertinent to this incident.

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If this was how his instructor was teaching him to land, then the instructor was doing it wrong!


To quote the great Hercule Poirot, exactement, mon ami. A student can't be criticised if he is doing what he's been taught. Most students will do exactly what their instructor teaches them.

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It's being said that this was at the end of his first solo cross country, so what I suspect actually happened was that the student messed up the approach but just wanted to get it down (and he would have done if there headn't been a car in the way Tongue )


So was he fit to be sent on his solo cross country? Smiley  Innumerable questions that could need answering! Wink


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Reply #16 - Nov 6th, 2012 at 10:43pm

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Reply #17 - Nov 7th, 2012 at 7:52am

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In the airport world, which I work in, runway thresholds get displaced for a reason.  However I have seen plenty of pilots that will always shoot for the end of the pavement, and the result is...
 
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Reply #18 - Nov 11th, 2012 at 6:15pm

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Guess what the add on the side was for me?

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Reply #19 - Nov 11th, 2012 at 8:17pm

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alrot wrote on Nov 6th, 2012 at 10:43pm:
Tongue there's something I got to say  .... that Kid with the camera has a very very dirty mouth and she's Colombian because of her accent  Tongue

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I don't have much sympathy for the acting PIC of the airplane... regardless of where the road is, if it crosses the approach path, you have to look for vehicle traffic not just ahead, but on either side. You have to look on downwind, on base, and on final. If the road is blocked at any time by the nose, you have to know what's there, or go around.
  As for the driver not heeding a stop sign or warning sign... well, I think it's pretty reasonable for a driver to expect the pilot of an airplane, which can move vertically a lot easier than a car, to be able to maintain adequate clearance, and to be using his aerial vantage point to look for them, whereas the driver has to look mostly ahead to follow a road.

Of course, it all gets easier if you descend a little more steeply- regardless of the view straight ahead, if you know your approach path will take you over the road at, say, 50 feet, you don't have to worry about cars. That approach looked too flat to me, just enough to hit a car on that road.

the saddest part of all is that the displaced threshold is there for overruns landing the other way, or for increasing the amount of runway for the takeoff roll. Not for landing on, as this pilot was trying to do. This displacement probably had something to do with the road, as well as obstacles beyond it.
So the pilot has no excuse, really.
 

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Reply #20 - Nov 12th, 2012 at 8:46am

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So the pilot has no excuse, really.


Trainee. Massive excuse. You can have the potential to be a brilliant pilot, but if you're badly trained/taught you'll be a bad pilot. If he was that incompetent (whether the incompetance was a result of poor training or lack of ability is another question) he shouldn't have been allowed to fly solo. End of. Whoever was responsible for his training, and whoever authorised him to fly solo has very difficult question to answer.
 
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