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Reply #15 - Sep 25th, 2012 at 1:05pm

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Reply #16 - Sep 25th, 2012 at 1:05pm

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Reply #17 - Sep 25th, 2012 at 1:16pm

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Is this serious? I mean is this thread serious ? a shooters are you kidding?

I wish one day there would be no more guns in this world ,

In my country I am the stranger I don't carry a gun ,every one else carry a gun or a machine gun , a lot of people die by bullets maybe more than the whole USA in a week

  I've see everyday people wounded by bullets and trust me is really ugly ..

  Its just I'm tire of violence  Tongue forgive me for my opinion

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Reply #18 - Sep 25th, 2012 at 1:32pm

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alrot wrote on Sep 25th, 2012 at 1:16pm:
Is this serious? I mean is this thread serious ? a shooters are you kidding?

I wish one day there would be no more guns in this world ,

In my country I am the stranger I don't carry a gun ,every one else carry a gun or a machine gun , a lot of people die by bullets maybe more than the whole USA in a week

  I've see everyday people wounded by bullets and trust me is really ugly ..

  Its just I'm tire of violence  Tongue forgive me for my opinion

Alex 


Yes Alex it is serious. Remember, you cannot compare different countries and how guns are used with one and other. The way it is in your country is in now a reflection of how it is in mine. And yes everyone is entitled to an opinion Smiley

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Reply #19 - Sep 25th, 2012 at 1:38pm

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ask the families of the victims of Batman 3 premiere ,that guy thought he own their lifes for several minutes (maybe he had those guns as a sport too), of course if he would have a knife or a hammer wouldn't kill so many people in a short period of time ,BTW I forgot this is one of many shooting cases in USA  ,BTW where was that case last year of that guy who also kill so many people in and island ,I remember was a peacefull and almost perfect country was it Norway?  Tongue

to me Fire guns are not sport are designed to kill  in the whole world specially and AK-47 Smiley
 

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Reply #20 - Sep 25th, 2012 at 4:12pm

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Many people (myself included) use firearms to put food on the table.......call it a sport if you'd like to, but many actually rely on guns to feed themselves around here. Without guns families would starve....."evil" is a pretty big stretch when you look at it from a different perspective Wink

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Reply #21 - Sep 25th, 2012 at 6:33pm

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alrot wrote on Sep 25th, 2012 at 1:38pm:
ask the families of the victims of Batman 3 premiere ,that guy thought he own their lifes for several minutes (maybe he had those guns as a sport too), of course if he would have a knife or a hammer wouldn't kill so many people in a short period of time ,BTW I forgot this is one of many shooting cases in USA  ,BTW where was that case last year of that guy who also kill so many people in and island ,I remember was a peacefull and almost perfect country was it Norway?  Tongue

to me Fire guns are not sport are designed to kill  in the whole world specially and AK-47 Smiley


I'll say it again: Firearms don't kill people. PEOPLE kill people.

Alex... everything that 'person' did or caused was his responsibility. The firearms used were the implements he used to commit that heinous crime. I heard the radio calls on my scanner AS IT HAPPENED; I live in the same municipality where the crime took place. His mental instability and anger were the root cause of the crime.

I'm sorry you live in an environment where that occurs on a daily basis. Ultimately it's the people involved who have to decide to live a different way. If they choose not to abide by universal decency and civility, to live and let live... then what can one do?

It is a serious thread, for we live in serious and perilous times.

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Reply #22 - Sep 25th, 2012 at 9:34pm

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Woah guys, did not mean to start a debate here.
Here in the states in places like where I come from owning multiple guns is extremely common. We hunt with them, we own them for the history, we own them because we like them, and we own them because for some it is something expected as in a tradition.

For me, it is most definitely all of the above. ALL of my male friends, ALL of my dad's friends, and the vast majority of males living in my town have an arsenal. Yet we ALL deeply respect the lethality they have and ALWAYS exercise safety when handling them.

To us, owning a gun is like owning a car. Cars I might add kill far more people than guns... as does cholesterol...

Take my 10/22, it was a gift from my grandfather who was an engineer for Chrysler for 20years. My 17HMR, a gift from my dad. My dad wants to pass his guns down to me and me to pass them down to my future son if I have one. Its a tradition.
 

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Reply #23 - Sep 25th, 2012 at 10:00pm

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You may have heard on the news about a southern California man put under 72-hour psychiatric observation when it was found he owned 100 guns and allegedly had (by rough estimate) 100,000 rounds of ammunition stored in his home. The house also featured a secret escape tunnel.

My favorite quote from the dimwit television reporter: “Wow! He has about a quarter million machine gun bullets.” The headline referred to it as a “massive weapons cache”.

By southern California standards someone owning 100,000 rounds would be called “mentally unstable”. Just imagine if he lived elsewhere:

In Arizona , he’d be called “an avid gun collector”.

In Texas , he’d be called “a novice gun collector”.

In Utah , he’d be called “moderately well prepared”, but they’d probably reserve judgment until they made sure that he had a corresponding quantity of stored food.

In Montana , he’d be called “The neighborhood ‘Go-To’ guy”.

In Idaho , he’d be called “a likely gubernatorial candidate”.

In Wyoming , he’d be called “an eligible bachelor”.

In Wisconsin , he’d be called “a deer hunting buddy”.

And, in Alabama , we just call him “Bubba”.
 

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Reply #24 - Sep 25th, 2012 at 11:44pm

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Webb wrote on Sep 25th, 2012 at 10:00pm:
You may have heard on the news about a southern California man put under 72-hour psychiatric observation when it was found he owned 100 guns and allegedly had (by rough estimate) 100,000 rounds of ammunition stored in his home. The house also featured a secret escape tunnel.

My favorite quote from the dimwit television reporter: “Wow! He has about a quarter million machine gun bullets.” The headline referred to it as a “massive weapons cache”.

By southern California standards someone owning 100,000 rounds would be called “mentally unstable”. Just imagine if he lived elsewhere:

In Arizona , he’d be called “an avid gun collector”.

In Texas , he’d be called “a novice gun collector”.

In Utah , he’d be called “moderately well prepared”, but they’d probably reserve judgment until they made sure that he had a corresponding quantity of stored food.

In Montana , he’d be called “The neighborhood ‘Go-To’ guy”.

In Idaho , he’d be called “a likely gubernatorial candidate”.

In Wyoming , he’d be called “an eligible bachelor”.

In Wisconsin , he’d be called “a deer hunting buddy”.

And, in Alabama , we just call him “Bubba”.


I imagine there is not one for Michigan because most people here are broke....most of us have plenty of guns but not a whole lot of ammo  Grin
Although when a group of us hit the range we easily burn through hundreds of rounds of just one gun...but those trips are very rare...it gets waaay to expensive to shoot like that often!  Roll Eyes

I have ~200rnds of .22LR for example. Enough for one trip to a local range for some plinking (after I fix my front sight) or some small game hunting. For the pistols its 20rnds there, 40 there, 10 there...AK and SKS 0 rnds, Mosin, maybe 10, Lee Enfield 0, .17HMR maybe 25rnds (half a box for 2 guns)...you get the idea...point is most of us at least in Michigan do not have a vast stock pile of ammo.
My dad keeps his pistol ammo at this level (which sometimes peaks over 50 rnds) because he does carry with a CPL.
 

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Reply #25 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 6:58pm

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 24th, 2012 at 5:40pm:
But wouldn't the World be a much better place if everyone had Pointy Sticks, instead of Very Big Guns...

..and just used them to spear Marshmallows to roast over a nice warm fire, to share with your fellow brothers and sisters, in peace, harmony, and goodwill...
No, Foz... rather, bayonets which aren't susceptible to flames and don't splinter...
Of course, my .22s didn't have bayonets but it was fun splattering marshmellows, skipping cans, etc.
There was an incident, of which I'm not particularly proud, when there was one death to my count, with my .22 Remington bolt-action long barrel: he'd stolen his last apple out of our Golden Delicious trees when I shot a bullet through a porcupine's head.



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Reply #26 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 7:31pm

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H wrote on Sep 26th, 2012 at 6:58pm:
Fozzer wrote on Sep 24th, 2012 at 5:40pm:
But wouldn't the World be a much better place if everyone had Pointy Sticks, instead of Very Big Guns...

..and just used them to spear Marshmallows to roast over a nice warm fire, to share with your fellow brothers and sisters, in peace, harmony, and goodwill...
No, Foz... rather, bayonets which aren't susceptible to flames and don't splinter...
Of course, my .22s didn't have bayonets but it was fun splattering marshmellows, skipping cans, etc.
There was an incident, of which I'm not particularly proud, when there was one death to my count, with my .22 Remington bolt-action long barrel: he'd stolen his last apple out of our Golden Delicious trees when I shot a bullet through a porcupine's head.




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Plus I can't live on marshmellows.....and it's really really difficult to hunt game animals with sticks Grin Grin
 

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Reply #27 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 7:50pm

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CHUCK79 wrote on Sep 26th, 2012 at 7:31pm:
Plus I can't live on marshmellows.....and it's really really difficult to hunt game animals with sticks.
Especially when a buck's sticks are bigger than yours.



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Reply #28 - Sep 27th, 2012 at 10:50am

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H wrote on Sep 26th, 2012 at 7:50pm:
Especially when a buck's sticks are bigger than yours.


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Reply #29 - Sep 27th, 2012 at 1:27pm

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I insist on the right to defend myself inside my house if necessary in whatever manner I choose.  I can ready my rifle faster than I can make a phone call, one motion to undo the safety and I'm good.  Which of the two might best save my life if someone succeeds in breaking in?  Just have a plan of action, and stick to it. 
 
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