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Sep 11^th, 2012 at 10:35pm

Jared Offline
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well, I've finally decided to pony up and build a simpit for my enjoyment and relaxation therapy

I really decided to do this this past week after ordering and taking delivery of my latest simulator additions...

I've decided to try and model my cockpit after that of a standard Cessna 172/182 (without the glass cockpit).

I currently have the following products:
(1) Saitek Proflight Yoke - http://saitek.com/uk/prod/yoke.html
(1) Saitek Rudder pedals - http://saitek.com/uk/prod/pedals.html
(1) Saitek Multi-panel - http://saitek.com/uk/prod/multi.html
(1) Saitek switch panel - http://saitek.com/uk/prod/switch.html
(2) Saitek Radio panels - http://saitek.com/uk/prod/radio.html
(1) Saitek Trim wheel - http://saitek.com/uk/prod/trimwheel.html
(1) TrackIR setup (with track clip)

I currently have all of the above with the exception of the 2nd radio panel. I plan on using one as comm/nav and the second as dme/transponder but I'm sure that could change (easily) with the multifunction switch on the panel.

Unfortunately my multi-panel is encountering some display issues with numbers being displayed on the screen so I have to work with saitek/madcatz support to get this sorted out. If I do end up getting good support from them I will probably order 6-8 of the FIP's http://saitek.com/uk/prod/fip.html to run the 6 pack and possibly VOR1/VOR2.

My goal once I get all of the panels/instruments at the house is to take CAD drawings of a real Cessna 172 and create drawings that show all of my instrumentation/panels installed which will give me a good basis for either creating a panel out of wood or sending off to a third party for laser cutting. After that I figure I'll start building the enclosure complete with a stock or close to stock cessna 172 seat/cockpit door.

I also have an ASUS B121 tablet PC running windows 7 that I would like to setup as a networked PC to run the GPS/moving map/G1000,ETC.

At this point I'm going to probably end up using my desktop PC as my primary source for driving the system since it runs FSX with no issues but with an A/B switch or KVM so that I could still use the computer at my desk for normal day to day activities.

Will the system ever become a partial or full motion simulator? One may never know...however with time I'm sure that something will begin to develop.

I'm sure I'll be back with tons of questions, troubleshooting, triumphs etc!

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Reply #1 - Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:34pm

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Well done Jared...you are well on your way...

Couple of questions:

-Are you going to be able to have an ADF or two?

-What are you going to use for Carb. Heat?

-Do you have an electric flap switch?

Am hoping to start on something myself this winter but right now we are too busy bugsmasher flying... Wink

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I think staying with one company and their products is a wise move on your part also, that is something I was wondering about.

Now the final question:

How you getting the money from the better half...I still have a problem with that... Grin

Grin

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #2 - Sep 12^th, 2012 at 9:24pm

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Welcome to the true Dark Side of simming. We sucked you into this, did we. Heh,heh,heh. Wink

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best,

....................john

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Reply #3 - Sep 13^th, 2012 at 7:18pm

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Yes John, yes you did, all of saturday nights flying on the US Tour back in the day....

Doug, I plan on utilizing some sort of USB 'dong' device such as the one listed below to manage additional switches and options that would be available in a variety of aircraft that I tend to fly the most:
http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836/

I'm currently looking for dimensions or autocad drawings of a stock 172/182 panel if anyone knows where I may be able to find this information? I'm not looking for measurements for all of the gauges just the primary measurements for total width, height, curve and if possible the depth of the glareshield.

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Reply #4 - Sep 13^th, 2012 at 7:25pm

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Also would like to model working fuses, but I don't recall FSX being able to handle input/trigger those to fail anyways so I don't think there would be any point in doing so.

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Reply #5 - Sep 13^th, 2012 at 8:41pm

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Thanks Jared... Wink

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Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #6 - Sep 14^th, 2012 at 2:05pm

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Jared wrote on Sep 13^th, 2012 at 7:25pm:

Also would like to model working fuses, but I don't recall FSX being able to handle input/trigger those to fail anyways so I don't think there would be any point in doing so.

Jared,

Sometimes simple visual only modeling adds to the "immersion factor", and is worth it. On my overhead I have a fuse bank. Most of the fuses are "dummies", but a couple are the actual fuses for actual electrical components in the pit.

You COULD write an external program that is running on the same machine as the sim that interfaces into the sim controls via FSUIPC anmd then "plays at being a fuse". It could monitor the loading on a particular cuircuit in a plane and then fail the electrical system if the circuit is overloaded.

I THINK that might be possible knowing the vairables that FSUIPC has access to. You'll need programming skills though.

best,

...............john

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Reply #7 - Sep 14^th, 2012 at 10:45pm

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JBaymore wrote on Sep 14^th, 2012 at 2:05pm:

Jared wrote on Sep 13^th, 2012 at 7:25pm:

Also would like to model working fuses, but I don't recall FSX being able to handle input/trigger those to fail anyways so I don't think there would be any point in doing so.

Jared,

Sometimes simple visual only modeling adds to the "immersion factor", and is worth it. On my overhead I have a fuse bank. Most of the fuses are "dummies", but a couple are the actual fuses for actual electrical components in the pit.

You COULD write an external program that is running on the same machine as the sim that interfaces into the sim controls via FSUIPC anmd then "plays at being a fuse". It could monitor the loading on a particular cuircuit in a plane and then fail the electrical system if the circuit is overloaded.

I THINK that might be possible knowing the vairables that FSUIPC has access to. You'll need programming skills though.

best,

...............john

Thanks John, I'm a programming geek, but I have a feeling that sort of programming and work my take a back burner seat for awhile. I was also thinking I could model a couple of fuses to simple keystrokes that could be used to reset the flight, and things of that nature, always plenty to consider here! I narrowly avoided being beaten by the wife by not ordering (4) 32 inch tv's that are on sale at walmart's website for a limited time only. But alas, tax time will bring with it some more additions to the simpit

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Reply #8 - Sep 15^th, 2012 at 4:39am

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For keen enthusiasts with loadsa-money!...>>>

http://nzff.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18389

Paul...Just a Joystick....and a vivid imagination!... Grin

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...!

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Reply #9 - Sep 15^th, 2012 at 2:06pm

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 15^th, 2012 at 4:39am:

For keen enthusiasts with loadsa-money!...>>>

http://nzff.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18389

Paul...Just a Joystick....and a vivid imagination!... Grin

Grin

...!

Cummon Fozzer...... cough it up! You know you've got a fortune stashed under the mattress. Wink

Wink

best,

...............john

Intel i7 960 quad 3.2G LGA 1366, Asus P6X58D Premium, 750W Corsair, 6 gig 1600 DDR3, Spinpoint 1TB 7200 HD, Caviar 500G 7200 HD, GTX275 1280M, Logitec Z640, Win7 Pro 64b, CH Products yoke, pedals + throttle quad, simpit

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Reply #10 - Sep 15^th, 2012 at 2:21pm

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JBaymore wrote on Sep 15^th, 2012 at 2:06pm:

Fozzer wrote on Sep 15^th, 2012 at 4:39am:

For keen enthusiasts with loadsa-money!...>>>

http://nzff.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18389

Paul...Just a Joystick....and a vivid imagination!... Grin

Grin

...!

Cummon Fozzer...... cough it up! You know you've got a fortune stashed under the mattress. Wink

Wink

best,

...............john

The sound of rustling money every night sends me to sleep, happy and contented... Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

....

Paul... Grin

Grin

...

Grin

...

Grin

...!

Dell Dimension 5000 BTX Tower. Win7 Home Edition, 32 Bit. Intel Pentium 4, dual 2.8 GHz. 2.5GB RAM, nVidia GF 9500GT 1GB. SATA 500GB + 80GB. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Micronet ADSL Modem only. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. FS 2004 + FSX. Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower...Motor Bikes. Gas Cooker... and lots of musical instruments!.... ...!
Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.

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Reply #11 - Oct 22^nd, 2012 at 9:49pm

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Pictures will be uploaded to a folder on one of my photography sites...

The first photo of is of the panel after being cut out but before being painted.

The second photo shows the panel painted and with all saitek products as well as the samsung galaxy tab installed.

The third is the fuel selector/cutoff panel which will be mounted in a similar fashion as the real aircraft.

I have also bought most of the materials to build the cockpit enclosure as well as some other odds/ends for switches and fuses which when installed I will post photos!

http://jspeergraphics.zenfolio.com/cessna172simulation

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Reply #12 - Oct 25^th, 2012 at 10:45am

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Hi Jared...

Looks good from the three pictures.

I was wondering if there is a way to do Carburetor Heat Controls (Cessna 172--1 & Douglas DC3--2) along with Cowl Flaps for the Douglas DC-3 without having to use the computer keyboard.

Does any one make these units with those two above included or would a person have to modify a unit?

Keep the pictures coming Jared...

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #13 - Oct 25^th, 2012 at 11:16am

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Flying Trucker wrote on Oct 25^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

Hi Jared...

Looks good from the three pictures.

I was wondering if there is a way to do Carburetor Heat Controls (Cessna 172--1 & Douglas DC3--2) along with Cowl Flaps for the Douglas DC-3 without having to use the computer keyboard.

Does any one make these units with those two above included or would a person have to modify a unit?

Keep the pictures coming Jared...

Doug,

There are interface cards (things like Phidgets and now the new Goflight unit) that let you map to any variable that can be addressed in the program's SDK. So the quick answer is "yes"....... but this starts to get a bit more expensive because you need the interface card (as well as SimConnect or FSUIPC) to accomplish this.

Anything that is a simple on/off type, is wire a switch to the interface card, tell the card what vaialble to access via FSUIPC and bingo... there you are.

best,

.................john

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Reply #14 - Oct 26^th, 2012 at 11:27pm

Jared Offline
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Doug,

I did a lot of reading up on interface cards and I really like the ease of use of the 2130 box from desktop aviator. It allows me to simply plug and play different switches and buttons. I'll have to report back on the well it works sometime next week when the fuses and other switches come in.

http://www.desktopaviator.com/Products/Model_2130/index.htm

Switches/knobs coming from:
http://diyrealism.webs.com/apps/webstore/

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