Simviation Forum - FSX and Windows 8

Sep 9^th, 2012 at 10:11am

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this may be a bit early but since there are so many beta copies out now of windows 8, is anything known yet about FSX compatibility?

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Reply #1 - Sep 9^th, 2012 at 8:04pm

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Hi!

I really don't know much about this at all as I know little about Windows 8 but you can bet someone's probably made a Youtube video on it by now!!

Sorry I can't help. Would be interesting to know what is in the future!

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Reply #2 - Sep 9^th, 2012 at 10:59pm

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Uh oh. Microsoft's Compatibility Center for Windows 8 Release Preview site says that all versions of FSX are not compatible. Same for Combat Flight Simulator. I'm surprised to see that. But that may only be in reference to the pre-release of Win8. I hope.

The university where I work has made Win8 Enterprise available to me and other techs (one of the perks of working there - we get stuff early), but I have only 1 licensed copy of FSX. Not sure how much testing I could do without activation. Is there a time bomb/time limit for how long FSX will run if it's not activated?

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Reply #3 - Sep 9^th, 2012 at 11:22pm

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From what I've read in reviews, Windows 8 was made with touch screens and mobile devices in mind but will work on PCs also. Stick with windows 7 or XP and your FSX is safe for a while.. Cool

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Reply #4 - Sep 9^th, 2012 at 11:43pm

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ftldave wrote on Sep 9^th, 2012 at 10:59pm:

Microsoft's Compatibility Center for Windows 8 Release Preview site says that all versions of FSX are not compatible.

On closer look, that site is just a user poll, with no real results from any testing done by Microsoft.

Win8 does have a desktop under the phone-like Metro user interface. A Microsoft rep who briefed us at the university claimed Win8 runs on average 30% faster than Win7, but that most of the changes are for consumers, online shopping, and social networking, all the stuff we'll have to disable when Win8 is widely deployed where I work.

Progressive universities want to be on the leading edge of technology, so older versions of Windows are only retained for compatiblity situations. Though we did pretty much skip Vista! Grin

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Reply #5 - Sep 11^th, 2012 at 2:59pm

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ftldave wrote on Sep 9^th, 2012 at 11:43pm:

A Microsoft rep who briefed us at the university claimed Win8 runs on average 30% faster than Win7,

I still remember when they said something much like that about VISTA...

...and still remember how things worked in THE REAL WORLD.

ftldave wrote on Sep 9^th, 2012 at 11:43pm:

but that most of the changes are for consumers, online shopping, and social networking, all the stuff we'll have to disable when Win8 is widely deployed where I work.

...and in the case of the average user that, intelligently, uses that... for sake of clean speaking let's call it manure, only on his or her smartphone...

ftldave wrote on Sep 9^th, 2012 at 11:43pm:

Though we did pretty much skip Vista! Grin

And at M$ they still wonder why. Tongue

All in all, Win8 seems to set itself as another bogus version of Windows... a NOT so intelligent choice to make with people getting on well with Android on cellphones and tablets and starting to ask themselves about using Linux on their PCs.

But of course at M$ they know SO MUCH MORE than us... look at Flight for an example. Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - Sep 11^th, 2012 at 3:03pm

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Steve M wrote on Sep 9^th, 2012 at 11:22pm:

From what I've read in reviews, Windows 8 was made with touch screens and mobile devices in mind but will work on PCs also. Stick with windows 7 or XP and your FSX is safe for a while.. Cool

I am running win7 pro 64bit. FSX obviously runs in 32 but I have absolutely no issues.
Obviously there is no rush, but it would be nice to know IF because of the OS, FSX is infact on 'the clock' so to speak. I mean, there will come a time.....
maybe a good idea to get ready and put together a cheap second user machine just for FSX as I dont actually like the idea not to be able to move to win8 just because of FSX. Sad

So if anyone gets any feedback on this, then please post. It will be good info for all.

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Reply #7 - Sep 11^th, 2012 at 9:45pm

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I use FSX on Windows 8 Release Preview. No major problems.

i5 3570K @ 4.3GHz, ASRock Z77 Pro3, EVGA GTX 670 FTW, 8GB DDR3, 128GB Samsung 830, 500GB Seagate Barracuda, Thermaltake Armor A60, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech K800, Logitech M510, Windows 8 Pro x64, FSX Acceleration

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Reply #8 - Sep 12^th, 2012 at 1:35am

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F35LightningII wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 9:45pm:

I use FSX on Windows 8 Release Preview. No major problems.

That's great to hear. Thanks for letting us know.

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Reply #9 - Sep 12^th, 2012 at 1:51am

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Strategic Retreat wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 2:59pm:

All in all, Win8 seems to set itself as another bogus version of Windows... a NOT so intelligent choice to make with people getting on well with Android on cellphones and tablets and starting to ask themselves about using Linux on their PCs.

I'd be the first to agree that people working at big corporations do very idiotic things. That's a built-in feature of authority-driven organizations and corporate culture. But I would not want to return to a world of computers without Windows. I'm old enough to remember what that was like. I'm just glad to hear that FSX is running okay on the new OS. The shortcomings of Win8 are already being documented and, historically, it usually takes Microsoft's second release of an OS to "get it right." If you are in business and you want to run strategic applications, Windows is the intelligent choice.

All things in this world have a life cycle, so does software, and new versions of Windows will be released no matter how much Linux fans carp about it. One might as well complain about direct current being better than alternating current for our homes. The standard is set. I'm not particularly fond of the internal combustion engine in my car, but that's the standard, with electric-hybrids and diesel a small minority. I don't waste energy or time complaining to anyone about what makes my car or computer run.

The too-many distros of Linux lost their big chance in 2008 when Vista flopped, the so-called "Year of Linux" that didn't happen. Lack of apps and content keep Linux in its niche, not the OS itself. On servers, mobile devices, and gadgets it will remain, doing good work, but not on so many desktop computers. I'm always puzzled that so many Linux fans are hardcore free marketers, but they won't accept that Windows is the most successful OS in the marketplace. But, hey, there's X-Plane for Linux, right? Go at it! Grin

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Reply #10 - Sep 13^th, 2012 at 11:23am

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ftldave wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 1:51am:

Strategic Retreat wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 2:59pm:

All in all, Win8 seems to set itself as another bogus version of Windows... a NOT so intelligent choice to make with people getting on well with Android on cellphones and tablets and starting to ask themselves about using Linux on their PCs.

I'd be the first to agree that people working at big corporations do very idiotic things. That's a built-in feature of authority-driven organizations and corporate culture. But I would not want to return to a world of computers without Windows. I'm old enough to remember what that was like. I'm just glad to hear that FSX is running okay on the new OS. The shortcomings of Win8 are already being documented and, historically, it usually takes Microsoft's second release of an OS to "get it right." If you are in business and you want to run strategic applications, Windows is the intelligent choice.

All things in this world have a life cycle, so does software, and new versions of Windows will be released no matter how much Linux fans carp about it. One might as well complain about direct current being better than alternating current for our homes. The standard is set. I'm not particularly fond of the internal combustion engine in my car, but that's the standard, with electric-hybrids and diesel a small minority. I don't waste energy or time complaining to anyone about what makes my car or computer run.

The too-many distros of Linux lost their big chance in 2008 when Vista flopped, the so-called "Year of Linux" that didn't happen. Lack of apps and content keep Linux in its niche, not the OS itself. On servers, mobile devices, and gadgets it will remain, doing good work, but not on so many desktop computers. I'm always puzzled that so many Linux fans are hardcore free marketers, but they won't accept that Windows is the most successful OS in the marketplace. But, hey, there's X-Plane for Linux, right? Go at it! Grin

I am not sure if 'idiotic' is the right word.

Before my retirement I was global ITC manager for a major engineering firm. Responsible for a global IT operation covering all countries from Europe to USA, Russia, China, India. Thousands of PCs. The overriding considerations in such a situation is continuity of the business (thus connectivity of all the factories in all those places all working in different time zones, so downtime is hard to find and will ALWAYS screw someone up somewhere) compatibility and maintainability. The thing about Microsoft producs is that in a corporate environment it will all knit together and connect. sure, there may be smarter bits of software out there and yes, there is Linux (which version?? ) but the three aspects I mentioned are more important in a corporate environment. so you grind your teeth and realize that in the end working with a microsoft environment globally will give you less downtime ( = less money lost) and in the end will be more maintainable so you do not have to try and recruit obscure specialists who may be familiar with your specific version of Linux etc.
The same goes for Coms. Cisco is the no brainer as far as reliability is concerned. In a corporate world you should not be 'stupid' but you need to be pragmatic and always remember that IT is just there to support the business. You arent there to pioneer or break new ground.

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Reply #11 - Sep 13^th, 2012 at 11:23am

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F35LightningII wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 9:45pm:

I use FSX on Windows 8 Release Preview. No major problems.

thanks for this. Great.

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