Simviation Forum - Engine Start full throttal

Jul 15^th, 2012 at 9:03am

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Before I got the NGX, the defualt 737, and every other plane, when you start an engine it goes to full power then idles down. This even happens to Payware products. So is there a fix out there that can fix it?

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Reply #1 - Jul 15^th, 2012 at 10:01am

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it goes up to full throttle because a little bit too much fuel was put in the combustion chamber so when it gets lit off the residual fuel gets lit off also and its like putting full throttle. this happens with every engine in the game so you have nothing to worry

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Reply #2 - Jul 15^th, 2012 at 11:58pm

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Methinks you may have a problem, but I don't know what the fix would be.

I have more than a few paywares that are defaulted cold-n-dark loads and none of those have any sorta full (or partial) uncontrolled throttle-ups upon ignition. I also have a few freewares that are cold-n-dark loads too, and on those there never is any sorta surge on start-up.

Does it do the same thing if you shutdown and restart? If it doesn't then you may have a loading difficulty that has some sorta faulty initial throttle setting.

I ain't FSX savvy enough to suggest what to look for relative to what the problem may be, but there's lots of very smart folks around these parts that may be able to help out.

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Reply #3 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 3:50am

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Anyone able to provide any suggestions for BlackAce?

I know there's a fix somehow....seen this sorta prob get addressed before but cannot find the thread, probably cause it's been quite some time since it was posted....like possibly a year plus or so ago.

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Reply #4 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 7:21am

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Maybe its in here
http://forum.avsim.net/topic/327290-aircrafts-moving-at-idle/

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Reply #5 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 7:36am

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Bass wrote on Jul 17^th, 2012 at 7:21am:

Maybe its in here
http://forum.avsim.net/topic/327290-aircrafts-moving-at-idle/

Most of the problems there, seem to be the confusion between the words; "Break", and "Brake".... Wink

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Reply #6 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 8:22am

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I was thinking of this

"Make sure you have your throttle calibrated on your joy stick properly."

and this

"Look for the line ThrottleLeverPctSet it to =0."

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Reply #7 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 8:25am

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I'm quite familiar with the word "break". Cry

I can squish landing gear and other imortant components on a sometime regular basis from time to time, so me and the queries: 'It broke!' and 'Did it break again?' and the most popular one related to my landings 'Holy cripes! How did you manage to break that?' Cheesy

Are most familiar!

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Reply #8 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 8:31am

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U4EA wrote on Jul 17^th, 2012 at 8:25am:

I'm quite familiar with the word "break". Cry

I can squish landing gear and other imortant components on a sometime regular basis from time to time, so me and the queries: 'It broke!' and 'Did it break again?' and the most popular one related to my landings 'Holy cripes! How did you manage to break that?' Cheesy

� Are most familiar!

With ever-advancing age... Roll Eyes

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...I'm afraid that my familiarity with the word; "Break", mostly involves; "Wind"... Embarrassed

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Paul... Wink

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Reply #9 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 8:42am

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Fozzer wrote on Jul 17^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

U4EA wrote on Jul 17^th, 2012 at 8:25am:

I'm quite familiar with the word "break". Cry

I can squish landing gear and other imortant components on a sometime regular basis from time to time, so me and the queries: 'It broke!' and 'Did it break again?' and the most popular one related to my landings 'Holy cripes! How did you manage to break that?' Cheesy

� Are most familiar!

With ever-advancing age... Roll Eyes

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...I'm afraid that my familiarity with the word; "Break", mostly involves; "Wind"... Embarrassed

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Paul... Wink

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I can surely imagine Fozzers winds, but we need to start somewhere in the gas Cool

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Reply #10 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 9:44am

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What any jet engine start you YouTube. It doesn't go up to full power then back to idle. So can I edit something to stop that from happening?

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Reply #11 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 9:57am

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Well, i'm lost.
See your first post and then your last.
I dont understand.

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Reply #12 - Jul 18^th, 2012 at 10:31am

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Bass wrote on Jul 17^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

Well, i'm lost.
See your first post and then your last.
I dont understand.

How? All I'm asking is there an edit, or a fix that can stop the engines from going to full power then idling on stat up. that's all!

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Reply #13 - Jul 18^th, 2012 at 10:59am

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Is your throttle in control or is it not?
How about your mixture?

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Reply #14 - Jul 18^th, 2012 at 11:31am

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This could be tied to your default flight as settings/situations from the default flight are loaded when you start the sim and can carry over to flights you create at start up.

Set up a flight, cold and dark if you wish. Make sure throttles are at minimum, and that AP and A/T are off. Save it, making it your default flight.

Another thing to try is to cycle your throttles, returning them to minimum before engine start up.

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Reply #15 - Jul 19^th, 2012 at 5:13am

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As soon as I fire up my Flight Sim, I have to cycle all my (Saitek Joystick) controls, including the throttle, through their full travel a few times, before starting the engines, otherwise they could be wildly out, and the aircraft uncontrollable!
...and as U4 states, the new aircraft often picks its settings from the previously used aircraft!

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Reply #16 - Jul 19^th, 2012 at 6:37am

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Fozzer wrote on Jul 19^th, 2012 at 5:13am:

As soon as I fire up my Flight Sim, I have to cycle all my (Saitek Joystick) controls, including the throttle, through their full travel a few times, before starting the engines, otherwise they could be wildly out, and the aircraft uncontrollable!
...and as U4 states, the new aircraft often picks its settings from the previously used aircraft!

Paul...

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I fing that very interesting Fozz as I have a Saitek Yoke and throttle quadrant plus a saitek AVR8 joystick (which is only used for rudder control as I have no pedals) and have never had to cycle anything (appart from my cycle of coarse, which advancing years mean I don't ride very often!)
Perhaps you have some noisy pots (I can't spell potentiometer.)

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Reply #17 - Jul 19^th, 2012 at 7:04am

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Zaphod wrote on Jul 19^th, 2012 at 6:37am:

Fozzer wrote on Jul 19^th, 2012 at 5:13am:

As soon as I fire up my Flight Sim, I have to cycle all my (Saitek Joystick) controls, including the throttle, through their full travel a few times, before starting the engines, otherwise they could be wildly out, and the aircraft uncontrollable!
...and as U4 states, the new aircraft often picks its settings from the previously used aircraft!

Paul...

...!

I fing that very interesting Fozz as I have a Saitek Yoke and throttle quadrant plus a saitek AVR8 joystick (which is only used for rudder control as I have no pedals) and have never had to cycle anything (appart from my cycle of coarse, which advancing years mean I don't ride very often!)
Perhaps you have some noisy pots (I can't spell potentiometer.)

Zaph... Wink

Hello Zaph....

I don't think the OP stated his controls Yoke/Joystick

..but with my; "Saitek Cyborg Evo Force" stick of Joy, I have to perform that ritual every time I fire up my Sim, or the settings are all haywire!
I have to reset/cycle them all back to neutral before I press the Start Button!
It never occurred with all my other Joysticks.

The settings remain at the last movement after I switch off the Sim. (on a loose Force feed-back Stick, the control can be in any position, (floppy), at start-up!), they don't automatically centralise!

Paul...with a� "floppy" stick of joy!...... Wink

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Reply #18 - Jul 19^th, 2012 at 11:11am

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Viagra on a flight stick Shocked

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Reply #19 - Jul 19^th, 2012 at 12:43pm

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Bass wrote on Jul 19^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

Viagra on a flight stick Shocked

When you reach a "certain age", you may find that your ~~Joystick~~ "Stick of joy"...(English joke!)... Wink

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...may benefit from a dose of Viagra, when it becomes "floppy"... Embarrassed

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Reply #20 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 7:34am

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I'm so happy you got humor over there...too
I only see that when TV are showing discussions in House of Parlements Roll Eyes

Here we call a spade a spade Cool

(Mostly)

Btw, how does YOUR Viagra turns Roll Eyes

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Reply #21 - Jul 20^th, 2012 at 9:56am

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Thanks for the help guys (NOT)

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